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that the C. B. F. '9 Directive is satisfactory.

Denial. In his letter D/AP II of 16 March Black asked whether you agreed
with the list of denial 'targets' agreed between him and the C. B. F.
and forwarded to CINCFE.

Dormant Commission. This was discussed with the present C. B.
F. when he visited Hong Kong as V. C. D. S. and with Higham when he was
here. In his letter of 30 January 1964 Black said that there seemed to
be "general agreement that action now lies with the Colonial Office to
put a formal end to the dormant Commission, "

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Evacuation. This subject also was discussed with Higham in the light of
your letter (FED 528/400/01) of 13 January 1964. In his reply dated 30
January Black reiterated his objections (with which I agree) to any
plans outline or detailed for the evacuation of anybody beyond the
'particularly vulnerable categories'. You will recall that in his
despatch 2133 of 13 October 1962, Black also sought a decision on his
earlier recommendation (savingram 2164 of 27 October 1961) with regard
to evacuation from Macau.

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Yours ever

David.

C. TRENCH)

W. I. J. Wallace, Esq., C. M. G., O. B. E. Colonial Office, London.

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You wrote to me on the 29th July about denial, the dormant commission
and evacuation. I fear that once again we must don sack-cloth and ashes
and admit that we have not yet been able to put the papers to Ministers
on the two main outstanding

points, 1.e. the dormant commission and evacuation. These two are of
course closely interconnected and they must go forward

together. We are now ready to make a submission to Ministers, but we
feel that it would be better to wait until a new

Government is in office before doing so. We do promise to seek a
decision as soon as possible after the election.

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I am glad to say that I can be more positive about the third subject
Denial, about which Robin Black wrote to me on

the 16th March. The list of installations to be destroyed

enclosed with that letter has now been approved as it stands

by the Chiefs of Staff. You can take it therefore that that

DEF 75/5102 is the list on which action should be based, though we shall

probably seek endorsement from Ministers of the general policy (not of
the specific targets) when we put to them the papers on evacuation, etc.

Signed

SIR DAVID TRENCH, KCMG, MC,

GOVERNMENT HOUSE,

VICTORIA,

HONG KONG.

(W. I. J. Wallace)

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This was touched on when we had our discussion on 20.xii. with Mr Wright
of the Ministry of Defence, who is accompanying Mr Thorneycroft on his
forthcoming visit to, among other places, Hong Kong.

2. We agreed with Mr Wright that the proper course was to get 003 views
on the recommendations of the Governor and the BDCC, making it clear
that the matter had not yet been put to Ministers and that the views of
the Chiefs were wanted so that the matter might be put to Kinisters, We
further agreed that submission to the Chiefs should wait until after Mr
Thorneycroft's visit to Hong Kong since this subject will no doubt be
discussed by him with the Governor in connection with other matters such
as the CBF's Directive, the Dormant Commission and the question whether
in the event of a Chinese attack there should be a fight to the finish
or not.

3. Meanwhile, as you and I agreed yesterday, we should consider an
urgent letter (or telegram) to the Governor to clarify his views about
the real differences, if any, remaining between him and the BDCC e.g. in
paragraph 9 of Mr Carter's useful draft paper there is the phrase: "the
Governor appears to maintain the view that there should be no evacuation
plans"; we must know if he does or not. communication ought to get to
him before Mr Thorneycroft arrives.

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On a secondary point, I note that in paragraph 10(b), read with
paragraph 6, of the Annex to COS (62)379 - at 294 on the 1960-62 file
the BDCC recommend that the Directive to CBF Hong Kong should, as agreed
by the CBF himself, be revised to contain a continued reference to
evacuation, provided it is varied to cover only the proposals now made.
JP(61)51(A)(Draft) at 33 and the Ministry of Defence comment on this at
35 accept this. (Paragraph 11 of 33 and the new paragraph 12 suggested
in 35.) Yet I remember that in the revised Directive, as agreed by the
Governor and issued some months ago, there is no reference at all to
"covering evacuation." Though one can understand why the Governor
accepts this omission, I still think it is a pity.

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recognise that after hostilities have begun the chance of evacuating
anyone would be rather slim and the possibility that the CBF would have
forces to spare to cover this still slimmer.

There is however some advantage from the civilian point of view having
at least the desirability of doing this, if possible, written into his
Directive. this is water under the bridge now, but the point should not
be lost sight of in case the Directive is looked at again in the light
of any discussion Mr Thorneycroft may have with the Governor.

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P.S. In paragraph 15 of his despatch at 32 on the 1960-62 papers the
Governor refers to communications from

him about HG's policy on evacuation from Macau to which he has not had a
reply.

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I think the only point on which we need further clarification from the
Governor is that referred to in para. 3 of your minute above, to which
Mr. Cumming-Bruce draws attention in para. 3 of his minute of 13
November 1962. I attach a draft telegram.

2. On the general question I do not find myself in entire agreement with
the view taken by the Governor on the moral and political aspects of his
proposal to abandon general evacuation plans, Provided we made every
effort to include in any such plans those local persons who would be
particularly liable to Chinese retaliation I do not think that we need
have any conscience in endeavouring to bring out as many European women
and children as possible. I doubt very much whether such action on our
part would have all the consequences suggested by the Governor in paras.
2 12 of 5/11.

3. It seems to me that a decision on this issue must rest on

(a)

our assessment of the fate of European dependents if the CPG take over
Hong Kong after a battle;

(b) the practicability of the operation.

If there are any likelihood that European dependents would be subjected
by a victorious CPG to torture and degradation, and if there were a good
chance of safely evacuating large numbers. then in my view we should not
hesitate to insist that plans for evacuation should stand. I think,
however, that the Governor's assessment of the situation in E/11 is
correct: that European dependents would not be in any greater danger
than locals, and that an attempt at evacuation might lead to a breakdown
of law and order and endanger the very

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very lives we were trying to save. Even the powerful argument that
evacuation before hostilities would encourage the Chinese to launch an
attack that they might not have initiated would not. I think, be
conclusive if there were any serious doubt about the safety of
dependents after Chinese occupation. I do not think that we can say that
douuts on this score are sufficiently serious to warrant our rejecting
the Governor's recommendation in respect of a post or pre hostilities
evacuation policy.

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