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RECORD OF A MEETING HELD BETA KIN DELWARY OF STATE FOR FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH AFFAIRS AND SINGAPORE FOREIGN MINISTER AND SECOND DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AT THE SINGAPORE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS AT 10.30AM ON 9 FEBRUARY 1982;

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Rt Hon the Lord Carrington KCMG MC

Mr S Dhanabalan

Mr S Rajaratnam

Mr JD Hennings CMG

Mr A E Donald CMG

Mr N M Fenn CMG

Mr B JP Fall

Mr JB Donnelly

Mr S R Nathan

Mr Chia Cheong Fook

Mr See Chak Mun

Mr K Siddique

Mr Simon de Cruz

Mr Bilahari Kausikan

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1. Mr Dhanabalan greeted Lord Carrington and asked him to raise

any questions he might have on his mind concerning Cambodia as a

result of his meetings and discussions in the other four ASEAN

capitals.

Lord Carrington replied that the basic question remained

how to get Vietnam out of Cambodia. As a result of his talks with

the other four ministers he had concluded that the Vietnamese

remained in Cambodia, accepting help from the Soviet Union, for two

reasons: (a) a wish to have an Indo-Chinese empire under

Vietnamese domination; and (b) fear of China and a belief that the

Soviet Union by its help and presence could provide security.

If the Vietnamese were to be persuaded to withdraw and to abandon

their collaboration with the Soviet Union it would be necessary

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