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You put disagrees with you on that- it to us that the delay in receiving the new plant, in consequence of the war, is subjecting the old plant to special strain which necessitate, special super vision. Your pre-war staff was 13, that is to say, 14 engineers and one account

ant?

Mr GRAHAM Electrical engineers. The CHAIRMAN-We notice that point.

Your European stall is now 14, and suppose that includes 13 engineors, five of whom are not electrical but méchani- cal How long are the shifts?.

Mr. GRAHAM The shifts at the works in normal times are eight hours, but we try to arrange one shift of only three or qur hours and the men take it in turn, every three or four weeks, to get that short whift. We have only recently been able to start that again. For some time the men were working 56 hours a week.

The CHAIRMAN-How long ago was that, Mr. Graham ?

M

GRAM-Six weeks.

The CHAIRMAN-When was the present arrangement restored?

Mr. GRAHAM-Yes."

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decision of the Tribunal was that he bo The CHATILMAN-How many engineers exempted for three months to enable him are there in rach shift, ordinary working? to make arrangements if it was possible Mr. GRAHAM-We like two mechanical to make them. If he found it impossible engineers on in the evening. The assist in that time he might come back before ant Station Superintendent is in the the Tribunal and show the Tribunal what Station working every night in the week had been done. Continuing, the Chair nn well as working from 7 o'clock in the man said: Wo have a number of appl morning. The Station Superintendent, is cations sent to us offering assistaner nover away at night. Continuing, Mall kinds, including assistance in you Graham said: Mr. Lang has drawn my attention to the fact that the shifts only particular sort of business. You might, apply to the station staff. You under if you want to enquire in that direction zec Mr. Fletcher and he will show you stood that 1.

what we have in that connection.

Mr. MITCHELMORE-It is a question of inding a man to take my place as manager of the business, and that must rest with the directors at the other end. DOCTORS,

The CHAIRMAN¬¬Y¢9. Major Manoas applied for non-exemp tion in the case of two.

After the Tribunnt had considered the matter. in private, the Chairman announced that the decision was that one man-Mr. Cooke-should be allowed to go.

Mr. Cooke's father asked permission to address the Tribunal and, this being granted, he said he had not the faintest objection to his son going, but he would like to point out that his son had been three years in the Colony learning his trade as an engineer. Two months ago when the Dutch abipping was heing taken Mr. GEARAM Only during the last few over by the Government his son was days.

appointer fourth engineer on the Fez The CHARMAN-One man has left Hong-get. Then different arrangements were kong for military service, and you ask made and under instructions from the for absolute exemption for all now be- Home authorities he had to leave the ship. fore us?

At that timo he went from the Taikoo Docks, where he was serving for five years. Flu bad done three years and he had an opportunity of going into the Electric Company to finish his apprenticeship. Concluding, Mr. Cooke said: There is only one thing I do not like, and that is the idea of three years of his time from 15 to 18 years being absolutely wasted, as It would be if he goes into a training camp.

Mr. Ga-Yes

The CHAIRMAN Mr. Fraser is 30 and married. He looks after the accounts. Mr. Fraser volunteered before the Mili- tary Service Commission last year. He is not an engineer. Has he been with the Company long 1

Mr. GRAHAM-Bince February, 1914. The CHAIRMAN-Mr. Fraser is not a Chartered Accountant or anything of that kind?.

Br. Fass--No, sir.

The CHAIRMAN-Your suggestion if Mr. Cook-I suggest he be put to his The CRMAN-There is nothing special trade as a marine engineer. There must in your accounts that an ordinary ex-be room for them; or in anything as an perienced book-keeper could not manage? engineer. I do not wish at all that be Mr. GRAHAM-I am not an accountant, should crade service, but I do not wish and could not really give an opinion. that the past three years of his life should Those matters are left to Mr. Lang

be wasted. Although he is only 16 years of age, for the last three years, since he caine out to the Colony, he has been in the

M. Layo-Not in the actual accounts,

The cases of F. Lindsay Woods and S. Strachan were then considered.

The CHAIRMAN (to Dr. Lindsay Woods) You are Depaty Health Officer of the Port, which, of course, is essential work

DE LINDSAY Woods-I think so. The CHAINMAN-ihe Tribunal thinks' sp too. You are in the firm of Jordan, Forsyth, Grone & Aubrey, and your firm put it to us that you cannot be spared I think you put it to us that no more practising doctors from the Colony can be spared now. That is your opinion?

Dr. LINDSAY Woops-That is my opinion..

The LBARMAN--We have read your papers and 1 do not think there is any- thing more to ask you.

MESSRS, THOS. COOK & SON.

The case of Mr. E E, W. Abney, mannger of Messrs. Thos. Cook & Son,

was the last considered.

The CHAIRMAN (to Mr. Abney)-We have read your papers and we sen, and know otherwise, that Messrs. Cook & Son

LANE

CRAWFORD & Co.

a business for tourists, banking and SOLE AGENTS FOR shipping. You put it to us, we surnose, that in Imperial interests or the essential interests of the Colony you should be totally exempt. Your pre-war European staff was six I take it; your staff now, including a youth who has just left school in three. How old is he?

Mr. ABNEY About sixteen.

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The CHAIRMAN--Three men have left the Hongkong office for military service. To that number do you include Mr. TENNIS Bentley?

Mr. AUNEY Mr. Bentley, Mr. Chap man and Mr. Bouch,

The Chartman-You are 39 and single, and manager of the business. How long has your No. 2 been with the firm!

Mr. Anver-Since February. He has had no previona experience of shipping. He is 32, I believe. He was formerly with the Shanghai-Nanking Railway.

The CHAIRMAN-You put it to us that

absence? Messre. Cook could not carry on in your

Mr. ABNEYQuite impossible. The CHALEMAN--Have you anything further to add?·

the fact that during the whole course of Dr. JORDAN-1 only want to emphasise the war one member of our firm has been away at the Front, and that he is now prepared to go back to the Front. More- over, I would like to point out to the Tribunal that the nature of the work done to-day by Dr. Lindsay Woods as Mr. AuNkY-I think the firm's lettor. Health Officer of the Fort and Inspector of migrants is such a kind that it covers most points. cannot be undertaken by any other Major MORGAN-I urge non-exemption. modient officer without special training.

After deliberating private the In view of that, and in view of the fact Chairman announced! The decision of that one member of the firm is already the Tribunal is that you have three going, 1 put it to the Tribunal that it is months exemption to make arrange- impossible for us to spare Dr. Lindsayments. Woods, especially in view of the fact Mr. ADNEY-I shall have to appeal, of that my health has been such that any course, on behalf of the firm. stress of work may involvo my being com- pletely laid up.

The CHAIRAN-We understand you to refer to Dr. Grone?

Dr. JORDAN Yes. The CHAIRMAN We gather that he is going to

R.A.M.O. ¡mediately. Join DY JOHN

SUBSTITUTION.

bat in our business there are 13,000 Volunteers and has been doing electric are the only partner loft in the Colony unfit or over-age, who ofter to do essen

monthly accounts to send out and a great deut of money coming in monthly and Al Fraser is in sole charge. We must have someone wi can trust. In the past there has been some difficulty in that respect.

The CHAIEMAN-There is no special technical condition - Continuing, 'Mr. Longfield is 30 and single and in charge "of the metera. He is an engineer. All are engineers except Mr. Fraser. Mr. Longfield himself only asks for a fort night's exemption in order to arrange his privato affairs. He does not ask for any further exemption than that. Mr. Bannerman is 32 and single. We have

lighting work at the lights.

The CHAIRMAN (to Dr. Strahan)-You now of the firm of Fitzwilliams, Dalmu Mr.boy Allan and Coleman. Your three partners have already gone to the Front. You joined the firm last year in order to enable Dr. Allan to go. If you wont it would mean the closing of your firm's practic entirely

The CHAIRMAN-That is a matter, Cooke, outside the powers of the Tribunal. We only have to decide the question under the Ordinance whether a man can go. It however, you will put these matters to Mr. Fletcher, or put them directly before the Military Authorities, it is possible they may make some such arrangement. We have no power to do it.to

MESSRS. WHITEAWAY, LAIDLAW &.CO.

The case of E. V. Mitchelatore, manager of Messrs. Whiteaway, Laidlaw & Co., was then considered.

The CHAIRMAN (to Mr. Mitchelmore)

This concluded the cases, but before the Tribunal adjourned the Chairinan said there were one or two observations. ho wished to make. The first was this. With regard to substitution the Tribunal has already a considerable list of people, tial work, some for whole time and some for part time, so us to free fit men who could not otherwise be spared. The names can be obtained from Mr. Fletcher, who would be glad to receive further names of any prepared to help in this way. The Tribunal will, in suit- Dr. BTRAHAN-YES.

able cases, bear in mind such possible Major Minnows I understand that Dubstitutes for assistants when consider

allowed to go to the Front ? The CRAI MAN- We understanding whether fit men should be spared. At the letters which have been sent to me on this subject I have handed to Mr. Fletcher, who is dealing with thein, and hope the writers will be so kind as to accept this acknowledgment of their lettere.

next week.

1 Major Mong in these circumstances I have nothing to say in either case.

The CHAIEMAN-The Tribunal is entirely satisfied that these two gentlemen cannot be spared from the Crony

INTERNATIONAL BANKING

CORPORATION

THE MEDICAL EXAMINATION, Continuing, the CHAIRMAN said-With regard to air. Holyoak's remarks con- corning the medicul examination which by the General to read the following correspondence. This is the letter from the General to the Tribunal

ne note with regard to him except that we understand that your pre-war staff were then considered- Mr. Hogg, the ho made at the last sitting I ani requested]

be is an engineer. Have you anything you wish to add, Mr. Bannerman 1

Mr. BANNERMAN-NO.

The CHAIRMAN-Do you consider you en he spared i

The cases of D. Ritchie and K. B. Beid of the International Banking Corporation

was four, and now it is reduced to two.

manager, appeared on behalf of the Bank. The Chalman (to Mr. Hogg)~We have You put it to us,

we suppose, that read your papers and see that your pre- Imperial interests or the essential interit is now reduced to six, and of the others war European staff was eight and that ests of the Colony require that you should there were 18 and this number has been increased to 19. Have any men gone

tary servicet

bo absolutely exempt. You are 39 years from the Hongkong office direct for maili-for your information a letter received

Mr. BANNERMANI have n hing to old and married and you are the manager of the business of Whiteaway, Laidlaw &

say.

Co. in Hongkong. You had until April

Headquarters, China Comman 1,

Hongkong, 19th July, 1918, Sin, I have the honour to forward

from Licut-Col. Urisp, my Deputy Dirco Mr. Hogg-I do not know. I was away tor of Medical Services, to the tenour of which I need only add that I am per- and a half years. two Mr.

KE-Three went direct from fectly satisfied that the examination of ilongkong.

recruit is carried out according to Re The CHAIRMAN-Of the present staff of gulations for Army Medical Services. six, two are before the Tribunal. Mr. As the insult to the Army Medical De

for

The CHAIRMAN-Mr. Sorby is 37 und married.". You," Mr. Sorby, came before of this year, or until lately, Mr. Hidden the Military Service Commission last us your No. 9. He has recently gone to

You have also served during the England. 'What is Mr. Hidden's age? Ritchie is 27 and single, He is a subpartment was a public one in open Tri,

Mr. MITCHELMORE I think he is about

year.

War for some time on the Empress of

Rusia. You were also in the South African war, were you not?

Mr. SORBY Yes,

The CHAIRMAN-When you were away on the Empress of Russia you were re lieved by Mr. Petley. He is still with the Company, but is unfit for military service 1

Mr. Boary-Yes.

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The CHAIRMAN-Is he & fit man?

Mr. MICHELMORE-He has gone away on sick leave, on medical recommendation.

Hongkong".

The CHAIRMAN When will he return to

Mr. MECHELMORE-I anticipate in about six months from now.

The CHAIRMAX-There is nothing you wish to add t

accountant and the Bank asks for his buntil I should be obliged if this regula absolute exemption: Mr. Raid is $8 and tion could be read also, in open Tribunal. single, and is also a sub-accountant The Bank in his case asks for three months have, etc., delay in case of the Canton Manager going on sick leave.

Mr. Hoga Our Canton agent is cor ing down here at the end of the month for medical treatment.

call for

F. VENTLIS, Maj. Gen. Hon, Mr. B. I. SAR, MAK.C

Commanding the China Command: The letter" enclosed by the General is a letter written by Colonel Crisp to the General, dated Headquarters, Medical Branch, July 9th, 1918.

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The CHAIRMAN So the need has arisen 1 Mr. Hoca-lt will arise, and I ask for three months temporary exemption for Sir, I have the honour to report that Mr.

Reid.

I have seen certain statements in the local The CHAIRMAN-We have read the Prose this morning as having been uttered papers sent in very carefully. Have you yesterday by the Hon. Mr. P. H. Holyoak The CHAIRMAN And, Mr. Cooke, you Mr. MITCHELMORE-There is nothing I anything further to say? :

before the Tribunal at its last sitting have only just joined the Company. You can add to what has been submitted in

Mr. Lione-No.

I wish to categorically deny the truth MORGAN--I have no objection to of these statements They are were in Hongkong, before. You are an my papers, except that, speaking gen-

exemption. I only want to absolutely unwarrantablo slur upon my- engineer Were you trained in Hongerally, our branches all round are under

self, as representing the Army Medical After the Tribunal had deliberated in Service, and are totally untrue.

•kong?

staffed.

I have the honour to request that this Nr. COOKE-At Tuikon. 1 am Major MORGAN-I think we can hardly rate, the Chairman (addressing Mr.

read: The decision of the Tri- letter may be forwarded to the Chairman consider. Messrs. Whiteaway, Laidlaw & bunal is that neither of these gentlemen of the Tribunal so that the statements nechanionl engineer.

Co.'s firm as of Imperial or local interest be exempted, but that three months time complained of may be publicly contradict The UHAIRMAN -You have nothing fur and 1 urge non-exemption on then be granted to Mr. Ritchie. If you prefered at the next sitting, 1 have, etc.,

the delay in the case of Mr. Reid we will make it so.

can only appeal, because The Mr. HOGGI it is running the staff down to five men. It was difficult with six. I cannot relieve

ther to say?

Dr. Cook No.

a.

The CHAIRMAN (to Mr. Graham)-A offer has been made to the Tribunal by an electrical engineer in the Colony. He

grounds, bat if any temporary exemp- tion is required natil Mr. Hidden come back I would not object to that, ****

Mr. MITCHELMORE -The man I have offers to do four hours work a day. He Shanghai. He came so as to allow Mr. here now is only a man temporarily from cannot do more. Would that be of any Hidden to go on necessary sick leave.

Mr. GRAHAM-Would those four hours leave what arrangements did you make? Major MonGAN-When you were on be in the evening?

use?

Mr. MITCHELKOR? —The

man

G. B. CRISF, Lt.-Colonel, Deputy Director of Medical Services.

of menting China Command.

The letter written by Colonel Crisp, 1

how exactly to arrange the work. I was Holyoak's request.

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The Tribunal, then adjourned until The CHAIRMAN As between the two if Friday, at 3.30.

The CHAIRMAN-I cannot say, but I Shanghai made temporarily three men Mr. Reid ghes without temporary exemp

from temporary exemption our decision is that HEARING OF APPEALS TO BEGIN

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Mr. Hoop--I have to appeal. These from the decisions of the General Mili- After the Tribunal had considered the things are not in my own hands-

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The CHAIRMAN You understand, gentle- ounced to Mr. Mitchelmore that the ckie, three months' exemption.

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Dr. GRAHAM-That is when I am short

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The CHAIRMAN-In this total of 13 engineers-your present total-you are including yourself and evóryone?

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