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He would thus be paid first and last £300 for writing about one hundred thousand words. The subsequent royalties would be taken by the Committee, unless it were felt well to give Mr. Sargent some smaller additional interest in any great success which might result from his work.

In regard to myself I propose, for the consideration of the Committee, that my remuneration for the work to be undertaken should be in the following form; that I should receive in respect of the Indian lectures, for which I am solely responsible, half the royalties to be paid to the Committee on account of the text from Messrs. Philip and Messrs. Newton, and half the royalty to be received on account of the slides from Messrs. Newton; and further, half the royalty to be paid in respect of the slides illustrative of the three remaining courses, namely, those on India [Canada], Australasia, and the Imperial Stations.

The allocation of the royalties would thus be as follows:-

1. To Mr. Sargent. The whole of the royalties on the text of Canada, Australasia, and the Imperial Stations up to the combined total of £200, together with, perhaps, some smaller supplementary share.

2. To myself. Half the royalties on the text of the India, and half the royalties on the slides of the whole four courses, that is to say, India, Canada, Australasia, and the Imperial Stations.

3. The Committee would retain half the royalties on the slides of all the four courses, half the royalty on the text of the India, and the whole of the royalty after the first £200 in respect of the texts of the other three courses, subject perhaps to some small payment to Mr. Sargent. As regards the Canadian and South African Editions of the Lantern Lectures on the United Kingdom, I feel that it would be better that editors who know respectively Canada and South Africa should reshape the work which I have done for the tropical parts of the Empire. We should thus ensure the early completion of this work, and I think that the result would be a richer one than if I were to do the task myself. My influence will be quite strong enough owing to the fact that these are not new lectures which are required, but merely specially adapted editions of my existing lectures. I might perhaps be left the right to be consulted in regard to the final proof. The Committee have already made arrangements with the Governments of Canada and South Africa for the cost of this work, and I have, of course, no lien on the money which is available.

I ought, perhaps, to say in regard to the whole scheme that the authorship of these lectures is a far more difficult and tedious task than I originally thought it would be. This is due to two circumstances: on the one hand to the necessity of adapting the text to the available illustrative material without allowing that material to dominate the scheme of the lectures, and on the other hand to the difficulty of incorporating the multitude of suggestions made by the experts without I am sure that, even if I were free allowing the style of the lectures to be broken. to give the whole of my time to the task, it would take a longer period to complete unaided than in the interests of the scheme is desirable.

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MY DEAR LUCAS,

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No. 51.

SIR J. STRUTHERS to SIR C. LUCAS.

(Received 28 October, 1910.)

Scotch Education Department, Dover House,

Whitehall, 27th October, 1910. FOLLOWING upon our conversation of this morning, I send you a note of the points which seemed to me to require consideration at the hands of the Committee in connexion with the proposals made in Mr. Mackinder's letter to you of the 24th instant.* As you will see, they don't touch the merits of those proposals, which, so far as I can judge at present, seem to me to be fair and reasonable, as well as calcu- lated to expedite the business the Committee has in hand. What I have to say relates solely to the form of our transaction.

My points, then, are:-

(1) It would seem from the memorandum you send me that, in terms of the agree- ment of 1st August, 1907, Mr. Mackinder's services in preparing the lectures on India were supposed to be remunerated by the payment of £5 a lecture in addition to the retaining fee of £300 and a royalty on the sale of slides. fore, of his letter that he should receive half the royalties on the sale of the lectures The proposal, there- on India is [therefore] a new proposition to which there may be no objection on its merits, but it is as well to be perfectly clear as to where we are in the matter. Personally I think that as the labour involved in preparing the lectures has turned out to be much greater than was anticipated, it is reasonable that Mr. Mackinder should receive additional remuneration in some form or other.

(2) Is a much more important point. either Mr. Mackinder or Mr. Sargent.

It concerns the form of remuneration to Obviously payment by royalties is a very convenient method for the Committee, both from the present state of its funds and the impossibility of estimating what the revenue from royalties--if indeed there be any to speak of is likely to be. But there is an undoubted risk of complications

in the future if this method of remuneration is adopted unless a very precise under- standing is arrived at now. If the work of the Committee is successful it seems to me that the lectures will have to be pretty frequently revised and brought up to date both as regards letterpress and selection of slides. employed to do this work, and the question of his remuneration will be complicated Somebody will have to be and the freedom of action of the Committee restricted by any pre-existing perpetual royalty.

A royalty terminable in some way would not, I think, be open to this objection, and the plan suggested in the case of Mr. Sargent, viz., of paying a proportion of royalties till a certain sum in all has been reached is worth considering; but other methods may suggest themselves.

Yours sincerely,

H. J. MACKINDER.

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Yours sincerely,

J. STRUTHERS.

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No. 52.

The following is a list of papers which appear to bear on the subject :-

Miscellaneous. No. 218.

No. 72. Sir Charles Lucas to Mr. Mackinder. 9 February, 1909. No. 73. Mr. Mackinder to Sir Charles Lucas. 11 February, 1909. No. 75. Minutes of Meeting held on the 23rd of February, 1909. No. 76. Mr. Mackinder to Sir Charles Lucas (telegram). 23 February,

1909.

No. 77. Sir Charles Lucas to Mr. Mackinder. 23 February, 1909. No. 91. Lord Meath to Mr. Mackinder. 22 July, 1909. No. 93. Mr. A. S. Chamberlain to the Committee.

No. 109.

No. 110.

24 July, 1909.

Minutes of Mecting held on the 8th of November, 1909. Minutes of Meeting held on the 3rd of December, 1909.

MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT made this 28th day of October One thousand nine hundred and ten BETWEEN the Crown Agents for the Colonies (here- inafter called the Crown Agents) acting on behalf of the Visual Instruction Committee of the Colonial Office (hereinafter called the "Committee ") of the one part and George Philip and Son Limited whose registered office is situate at 32 Fleet Street in the City of London (hereinafter called the Publishers) of the other part.

Whereas the Crown Agents have been authorised by the Committee to enter into this agreement as the agents of the Committee and whereas the Committee has prepared and printed a work entitled Eight Lantern Lectures on India by H. J. Mackinder, M.P. and is desirous of having the same reprinted in the form of an

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