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should come to the Council once again and lay before the Council a report as to its findings in this particular case.
MR. LO TAK-SHING:- Mr. Chairman, I realize everyone has worked very hard on the contents of these by-laws and I also realize the obvious dangers to any compromise solution. I would support it on more or less the same grounds as Mr. SALES, and that is that the Committee will keep under review how it works. Really what is written on paper in this case is not nearly so important as how you are going to administer it on the ground. If we can have the assurance asked for by Mr. SALES I will be glad to support the Motion.
MRS. JOYCE SYMONS: Mr. Chairman, various points have been made by my colleagues at this debate. Clause 5 does worry me slightly, but I suspect that if the worst comes to the worst I shall in future be either in gaol or in some way absent from meetings. In my school I have a garden wall that runs for a good few hundred feet, a solid granite wall. I hope my lawyer friends here will bear me out, but I just don't know how this is going to affect premises like mine. Hundreds, thousands of people pass each day, particularly on the way to the hospital. Am I to employ an extra servant to walk the beat as it were outside my own wall? I very much hope that this sort of situation can be considered. There must be many many occupiers of ground floor premises who would be incapable of watching litter being dropped by others. I am all for keeping our city clean. I am all for getting the next generation to do so. But this liability clause does worry me slightly. I very much look forward to further investigation. With this reservation I will, of course, support this Motion because it must be one way for us all to work to keep our city clean.
DR. HUANG:-- Mr. Chairman, I am very glad that all the Members agree that we do need a campaign to keep Hong Kong clean. Now we all know that the most ideal way to get rid of any anti-social habits is by education, but unfortunately, in spite of the efforts we made in the past 15 years or more by various Keep Your District Clean campaigns, the result was a total failure. It was because of this, after 15 months hard investigation and planning, that we considered this new legislation. By health education alone it would probably take a generation or even two to get people not to litter the streets. If we want a clean Hong Kong within a short period of time, the campaign committee feel that it is necessary to have strong laws. The publicity campaign started on the first of this month, and August, September and October, 3 months, are mainly for educational purposes. We will try to tell the people - tell the public not to litter the street, and the strong laws will only be enforced from the month of November. I can give Members the assurance that it will be kept under review and also we will do our best to avoid any injustice.
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The question was put.
The motion was carried with 18 votes for and 1 abstention.
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That concludes the business of this meeting, ladies and gentlemen, Council stands adjourned until Tuesday, 12th September, 1972 at 4 p.m.
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