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motion, but I may say that not only are driving a new short road across to Repuha Bay, but we are negotiating with the Hotel Company for the provision of first-class free facilities for public bathing on the Repulse Bay beach. When that new road is in working order I have no doubt it will be possible to arrange for quite cheap transport across to Repulse Bay for a large number of people who now go to North Point. Then, again, we are driving 100-font road direct from the City Hall to Shaukivan. The present tramway very tortious and slow, and no doubt with a fast service of tramai people would be able to get to Shaukiwan in the time it. now takes to reach North Point. The Sai Wan beach an excellent bathing bench- is only a short distance away. I admit that in the Summer the walk across the ridge would be rather out of the realm of reason and possibility, but no doubt cheap motor transport across that neck can be provided. That is another possible facility. Again, there is Sandy Bay, not very far around the corner from West Point. It is possible arrangements might be made for the Hongkong Tramway to extend along the Jubilee Road in that direction.· ́
to prevent the public being deprived of the bathing besebes, which are so very import ons from a bruigh point of view. With regret, air, I must ask for a division on this motion, because I want to drive dome the point that it is the duty of the Hongkong Governmens to provide the public with adequate facilities for sea bathing.-
H.E. THE GOVERNOR-I am afraid I can not accept the motion in view of the inter pretation the hon. memeber has put upon t. I will put the motion to the meeting Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-I ask for a division. H.E. THE GOVERNOR-You might give nie the opportunity of putting it to the meeting first to see whether there is unanimous vote
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Hoo Mr. FOLLOCK said that on a pre-
vious cocasion he was told that he had not asked for a division soon enough.
The object of this Bill is to adapt the Treaty of Peace (Bulgaria) Order, 1990, Urder was published in the Hongkong to the circumstances of this Colony. The Gagits of the th November, 1990.
The method followed is the same as thas adopted in Ordinance No. 3 of 1920. (*
The ArrogNET-GENERAL This Bill is to deaf wish the Bulgarian Treaty of Penca in the same way as the last Bill dealt with the Austrian Treaty of Peace Order, an
The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and the first reading wa, ugreed to,
THE ADJOURNMENT.
H.E. THE GOVERNon-The Council will adjourn till this day fortnight. I would like the Council to settle definitely what time it would like to meet.
Hon. Mr. HOLYOK—8.30. This being agreeable to the members generally the time of meeting was fixed
tar 9.30.0
FINANCE COMMITTEE.
A meeting of the Finance Committee was held, the Colomini Secretary presiding.
North Point beach had not been used at all The Government cleared them and put down a' quantity of said at North Point, and made it into the bathing beach it is at present," quita a fair bathing beach. At first, of course, very few people bathed there, bat, as the hon, member who moved the dution pointed out, the numbers have Bas I must grown very largely indeed. call attention to the danger of accepting certain underlying fallacies in these figures. It has been pul to us on the one hand that a large number of people used these beaches during last season, from the point of view of health-giving recreation, and at the same time the ben. member did men- tion, of course, in connection with the number of soldiers, that it was not that 11,000 different soldiers used the bench, but the same people used is over and over again. I we take it a 64,000 different bathers the fact that each man bathed once in the season is not an argument is favour of showing that any great benefit was derived by the community from the point of view of health and recreation. I prefer to think that 6,000 people each used the beaches ten times in the season and derived a certain amount of beneft, or that a thousand babitues each used them sixty times and were entirely revigorated. But
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK asked for a division. think the argument of numbers can be
Hon. Mr, FARE-May I say a few words pressed too far. In any event, the Govern-
favour of the continuation of these sea ment admits that the increased popularity
before the motion is put I have been in bathing facilities, but, as I take the view of these beaches shows that they do meet
that the Government has put forward a real public want, but, on the other hand,
which is the view that I as Chairman of the Shipping branch of the Economic with great regret it feels bound to come to the decision that the advantage to the
Resources Commitee, have been mending to the Government from the very community at large of the retention of
I am glad to say I am relieved I should first, namely, that they shall do their utmost these beaches is entirely outweighed by say that we have not been confronted with to develop the barbour which is the other considerations: The importance of the example of other places which have Colony's life-blood-1, therefore, am voting in the Government gnol. The item Trans
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With regard to Kowloon, I might say that my remarks about North Point apply With regard to to that locality also Chenug Sha Wan, we have arranged, and practically completed negotiations, to sell. that foreshore to an important Corporation who are introducing & large new industry into the Colony, and I think it is the duty of the Government to give the land for that purposs rather than leave it for bathing more especially as I have never seen any one bathing on that, beach yet.
HIS EXCELLENCY explained that the pro- cedure was that the question, was first put to the Council and on a show of hands, the
Chairman anid, I think the Ayes have fit" or the "Nees as the case might be and at that point an hon member night
call for a division. prad
The Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-How can the "Ayes" have it when Your Excellency his instructed the official members to say **No
Un a show of bands His Excellency said The Noos have it."
recom-
with the Government, though I certainly approve the contention that the public should not be deprived of sea-bathing, if it can possibly be avoided. But the beaches should not be maintained at the expense of the development of the harbour.
provided transport or anything of that kind, or who have done
any special thing for providing free bathing facilities, The bon. member spoke about seaside bath. ing places in England and put the Govern ment it an exactly parallel situation to the Corporations of those places. Hong- In the division all the Official Members, kong is not a seaside bathing place; it is a commercial centre, and the sooner that the Her. Mr. John Jobustone and the is recognised the better. I think it would Hon. Mr. Parr voted against the motion, as ludicrous if in ports, such which was declared rejected by 9 votes to 4. beerpool and London, which had a stretch of sandy foreshore in the middle of the commercial ares, the Corporation should be called upon to preserve it for all time for bathing purposes when docks and
wharves are clamouring for roomD.
SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION.
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Allowances ....) (1,670.
MISCELLANEOUS BERVICES, H.E.the Governor recommended the Council to vote sum of $107,444 in zid of the following votes:-
Language Study Miscellaneous Services: Government Buildings:-
Electric Fans and Light Lifts Maintenance
New Season's Fruit for Xmas
Seedless Raisins (Sultanas) Seeded Pudding Raisins.. Californian Currants..........
per 1 lb. pkt.
$0.65
75
1 lb.
1Ib.
.65 .65
**
All these Fruits ard cleaned ready for use, untouched by hand.
Mixed Candied Peel
per lb. Candied Feel in 1lb tins Mixed ... per tin
Lemon ...
$1.00
.80
.80
Orange
Et
80
Citron...
H
$1.00
Cooking Apples
2,940
780
Splees all kinds In 2 oz. & 8 oz, bots.
per lb. Pudding Basins, all sizes in stock. Chiver's Xmas Fuddings in 2 lb. Basins Crosse & Blackwell's Xmas Puddings 1 lb. tins 70 ots.
.20
$1.50
Service List ........... Miscellaneous Papers ". Ordinances, Regulations and Re-
:: 54.
2 lb. tins $1.20 3 lb. tins $1.80 4 lb. tins $2.40
30,000
Chiver's Mincemeat.
per 1 lb. bota.............
.80
Crosse & Blackwell's Mincemeat i
4,500
11,000
Golden Dates .....
līb tin 31,2lb.tins31.90
pkt
.60
Californian Figs
.40
54,000
Kont Filbert Nuts
lb.
.80
2,500
Brazil, Almond & Hazel Nuts....
.80
$107,444
Washington Apples........
2.30
.80
Printing and Binding:
ports........ Stationery
vants Charitable Bervices, Other Transport of Government. Ser.
...Charitable Allowances
Total
The CHAIRMAN-The Printing item is largely due to a very heavy increase in the cost of materials, and partly that $30,000 is due to a breakdown of machinery pert, 854,000, is explained by the scheme for passages for Government ser-
The vote was approved."
vants.
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REPAIRS TO XAILWAY EMBANKMENT.. H.E the Governor recommended the Council to vete a sum of 83,625 in sid. cf. the vote Kowloon-Canton Railway, Special"
bankment." Expenditure, Repairs to Railway Em-
Approved
H.E. the Governor recommended the
the harbour is being pressed upon us from all side. The Economic Resources, Com- mittee have recently reported to us that it is our only asset, and too great import- ance could not be attached to the question, and only recently Sir Maurice Fitzmaurice, in conversation with me, told me that he was most profoundly impressed with the st potentialities of this port and its prospects for the future. The Government regards it as its duty not only not to discourage development, but to do all in its power to push it on when it sees the opportunity. We have been told that wo do nothing to advertise, that we stand in the way of people, and therefore choke them off when they wish to come forward. The applicant for a site for any purpose Is a sby person. He is not easily tempted with the lands we offer, and in this parti
THE TREATY OF, PRAON ORDERS and willing to offer all reasonable cular case of the North Point thera hap facilities, to prepare beaches and to put up
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the first By reading of a Bill intituled An Ordinance pened to be a chanes of developing that accommodation and to consider Fres and no other area, or practically no proposal that transportation as I of Peace Order, 1019, as amended by the might be put forward for to modify certain provisions of the Treaty other areas, so far as we know, could be given instead. The applicant seeks to have suggested, transportation to Stone Treaty of Pence (Amendment) Order 1990; develop that area with large, wharves and cutters or possibly, later on, to Sai Wan for the purpose of adapting the provisions godowns far the berthing of ocean-going and, possibly, even to Repulse Bay, should of the Urder to the circumstances of the ships and the housing of the merchandise be no more costly than the present frans Colony of Hongkong. carried by them. The Government is port is to North Point and Kennedy Town.
The Objects and Reasons" state that entirely satisfied that it is its duty to pro. The Government, in that sense, accepts the mote that scheme by el means in its resolution that it is its duty to provide the object of this Bill is to adapt to the
circumstances of the Colony the amend
The COLONIAL SECTETARY-moved the third reading of the Bill intituled AAVUTE FOR DRAWING MATERIALS. Ordinance to authorize the Appropriation of a supplementary sam of four million and twenty-six thousand three hundred and thirty-six dollar and eleven cents to defray the charges of the year 1919.
I may say on behalf of the Government that while it accepts the axiom tha: ses bathing is a health-giving, recreation, and that, all reasonable facilities should be given for it, it cannot accept this motion that it is the duty of the Government to pro- vide facilities in the sense that it is its duty to keep these areas at "North Point and at West Point. The Government is ready
The COLONIAL SECRETARY said I beg to report that the Bill has passed through tho Finance Committee without amendments, therefore beg to move its third reading. the third reading was agreed to
The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and
of the
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said-The Ordin ance of 1915 made certain sections of the Treaty with Germany the law of the land.
Council to vote a sum of 81,200 in aid of the vote. Public Works, Establishment, Other Charges, Drawing Materials and Mounting Plans.
Approved.
A RAILWAY; WAGONK. H.E. the Governor recommended the Council to vote a sum of $12,000 in aid voto. Kowloon-Canton · Bailway, of the Special Expenditure. Wagons.
The CHAIRMAN—This, is for providing bodies for 30 new wagens, not included in the original estimate.
Approved.
MOORINGS IN THE HARBOUR H.E. the Governor, recommended the Council to vote a sum of 8900 in aid of the vote Harbour Department, Har bour Office: Other Charges, Raising and Renewing Moorings of Ocean Steamshipa:
Approved,
BARBOUR DEPARTMENT EXAMINATIONS. "H.E. the Governor recommended the
Approved,
NEW REFUSE BARGE. H.E. the Governor recommended the
Council to vote sum of $14,000 in aid of the vote Sanitary Department, Special Expenditure, New Refuge Barge
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power, and that it is not in the interests such reasonable facilities as it can to assist ments made in the Treaty of Peace Order, Ucuncil to vote a 'gum lot 8000 in aid of power, mutity that this applicant the publie in the matter of fret trang 1919, by the Treaty of Peace (Amendment) the vote Barbour Department. 4.-Har should go elsewhere, away from the Colony, and it will welcome any scheme for Trans-order, 1920. The latter.Order was publish our Office, Other Charges, Examination simply because we want to reserve that part or otherwise that the bon. member who made the motion may wish to put
ed in the Hongkong Gazette of 20th Octo stretch of sand for bathers.
With regard to the West Point beach, before it. But as the hon. member lias bor, 1920. The method followed in the Bill Fee the opinion of the public, an voiced by its defined his motion as meaning that it is is similar to that of Ordinance 3 of 1990; representatives, suffers somewhat, or, if I the duty of the Government to preserve the tht references in the second column of the uy any so enjoya somewhat the uncertain two beaches now in question, the Govern schedule being to the articles habits of the weather clerk. Quite recently ment regrets that it cannot accept the original Urder, as amended by the amend
ment Order. the Economic Resources Committee, on motion. which I see several members of the Coun- eil, including one who has spoken on the motion,
forwarded a scheme to this Govern- ment Crafted by one of its leading mem- 'hers,
which it urged that the dover- ment
proceed to the bathing beach at West Point for com- mercial purposes. It pointed out the very great advantages of adding land to that neighbourhood, both on the question of overcrowding and the development of the until such back. aren
aren by the land taken away and the Government replied sympathetically that it had had the matter under consideration for some time, for many years in fact, but that it was not proceeding with the work at present because it had other large se clamation schemes. Prayn
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-As mover, I have the right of reply ander, Rule 20. The hon. member who represents the Chamber of Commerce mentioned a point which I omitted that there is a considerable force regards the North Point site, if we cannot get adequate facilities in lieu of this, it seems to follow logically that the Govern meat ought to retain the present site
other facilities.
are jn view. In connection with those substituted facilities, it seems to me that, although the hon. Colonial Secretary was in general agreement with the principle that there should be facilities, he puts too much on me when he suggests that should put up, or get other people to: suggest, schemes of cheap transport. That is not the busi- these before tackling a large problem of pess of an unofficial member of the Coun
cil. The Government ought simultaneously No. 3 of this
Shamsuipo and Prefer Fry East and
this kind
in
-the-
With regard to the figures gone into in 1-to begin to tackle the problem of what modifications, ar. made the necessary Council to vote a sum of ten thousand
is that the Government ought not to fake
mounts are of very, Public Works, Extraordinary
87,000
400
FUBLIC WORKS VOTES. H.E. the Governor recommended the
seven hundred dollars ($10,700) in aid of the following votes
Hongkong: Communications (16) B Roads: Miscellaneous, (28) Renewing
(2) General Works Cable to Green Island Public Works, Recurrent, Hongkong Suburbs and Fit
(10) Gas: Lighting
Miscellaneous (15) Maintenance Public Works, Recurrent; Kowloon a
Lighting, (29) Glas Lighting Total
The CHAIRMAX This barge was to have been ordered next year, but a barge was It established a clearing office for the sunk and it was decided to order one at The once collection and payments of debta. Amendment was this Approved wa
COMPENSATION AND RESUMPTIONS. year makes certain alterations in detail
H.E. the Governor recommended the and working of the principal Order. Both Ordere apply to His Majesty's Dominions, Council to vote a sum of 8115,470 in aid except India and the Self-Governing of the vote Public Works Extraordinary, Dominions. They are drawn up primarily Rew. Territories, Public Health and Build. for the United Kingdom and, therefore, ings Ordinance, 1903, (19) Compensation referred to United Kingdom legislation, and Resumptions. currency etc., and it is necessary for the The CHARMAN-This was the purchase application of the Order to the Crown of the gaal site from the Kai Tack Re Lolonies and Protectorates that modifica clamation Co.
should purpose taking the Orders applicable le parti Approved.
Colony Power is given to do that principal Order, and Ordinance
present Bill is to make the necessary
in the Amend detail, it has been pointed out that the to be done for the people displaced from Chinese are the largest users of these two the bathing beaches at North Point. The ment Urder. The benches and from enquiries I have made Colonial Secretary remarked that it is not to Hongkong currency instead of English alight interest. They consist of -references I find that much the greater number of desirable that bathing places should be kept currency and things of the kind. I beg people are schoolboys, as Mr. Lau Cha Pak in perpetuity. I quito agree, but my point to move that the Bill be read a first time. han pointed out. I have learned, with grant pleasure that the Confucian Society, does away, facilities that exist at present, unless The Hon. COLONIAL TREASURER Seconded,
considerable amount of good work by and until it is prepared to supply ethers. and the motion was agreed to. taking the boys at cheap rates to beaches The Colonial Secretary has mentioned one The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved the first elsewhere, including Stonecutters No or two alternatives, but, except as to the reading of a Bill intitolód An Ordinanes doubt something
could be done on Repulse Bay project.
to Sai regard
of Peace (Austria) Order, 1920, for the Government or private enterprise Launch in the Summer, it is tuch an undertaking purpose of adapting the provisions of the bire is not an
item expensive and
the small walking from Shaukiwan to Sai Wan Order to the circumstances of the Colony payment now made for trams could possibly and it would take so much time that it is of Hongkong.
provided for the purpose. With regard not really a practical proposition. to the enldiers, it must be remembered that course, if there was a tramway, the scheme Treaty of Peace (Austris) Order, 1920, to Of The object of the Bill is to adapt the
The CHAIRMAN-These are Various small the European Garrison, or the far greater would be in a different category, but there part of it, is going across to Kowloon in no such thing. Another suggestion was the circumstances of this Colony The additions to Public Works The vote of and it does not seem likely that they to go round to Bandy Bay, but all that is rder was published in the Hngkong $7,000 is due to the growth of the town- would come in any great numbers as for so much in the air that it does not at all
All Gazette of the 12th November, 1920. new pavements in front of shops, The present necessity. Similarly, Tac method followed is the same double the estimated cost. The hard launches and Stonecutters, again, is meget papa may, the non, member sdopted in Ordinance No. 3 of mee that Ughting vote is due to the provision of no great distance from Kowloon. The cost has no told us how soon that road is likely The Hon. ATTORNEY-GENERAL-This Bill of transport in that case would probably to be carried through. Of course, it is to adapt to Hongkong, the urith be no more than in the presont case of were, and if the Government were prepared Treaty of Peace Order which deals with transport by tram I may also mention to give cheap, transport to Repulse Bay the Austrian Treaty similar to the Ordin that the military used to bathe, when I that might relieve the situation to a certain once passed this year for adapting the Brat came out, in the military camber extent, but at present it is all too vague. Order which deals with the German Treaty along the Praya have no doubt that If the Government would make a definite Arrangements can be made for that to be promise, one would have something to The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded, and re-opened for the purpose. I have not which one could attech importance. I the first reading was agreed topi consulted the military authorities on the agree with my friend who represents the The ATTORNEY-GENERAL Moved the first question. With regard to the question of Chamber of Commerce that at present the reading of a Bill intituled An Ordinance facilities (it is stated that we ought to proposition practically forces itself upon to modify certain provisions of the Treaty provide facilities) we do provide facilities, us, that, until the Government can give of Peace (Bulgaria) Order, 1920, for the Rende, of course, are the prime facility substituted facilities, the only thing to do purpose of adapting the provisions of the I recognise that Repulse Bay does not. It to hold on to the bathing beaches ist : Order to the circumstances of the Colony mctualy come within the purview of this North Paul. It is the only way in which, of Hongkong,
these lines in further school-boys by} and shadowy.Why are too to modify certain provisions, of the Treaty Public Recreation Grounds..
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500
1,500
$10,700
H.E. the Governor recommended the Council to vote a sum" 860 in aid of the Colonial Secretary's Office, Other
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Electric Fans and Light Incidental Expenses
Total
Approved.
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