THE HONGKONG DALLY
HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL
SUGGESTED REMOVAL OF MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS-
HOUSING QUESTION DISCUSSED.
Administering the Government. I think that hon. members will agres with my krise that the Finance Committee, which consists of all the members of the Chancil with the exception of the President, vory large committee and it will be bother if fome of the members not absolutely essential were dispensed with. The Fit anco Committee which I have been accu tomed to work with for many years past consisted of myself as Colonial Secretary the Controller of Revenue (who in this Colony would be the Treasurer), and all-
What stepa
the Government A meeting" of the Legislative Council was held in the Council Chamber yester- taking to secure the inclusion of Hongkong in the proposed Imperial day at noon. There were present
H18 EXCELLENCE THE GOVERNOR (Sir Commercial Wireless Scheme! REGINALD EDWARD STUBAS, E.C.M.G.)-A-The matter was discussed in this
HIS EXCELLENCE MAJOR-GENERALF. Council on the 10th April, 1918, and innofficial members of Council, and I VENTLIS, C.B. (General Dcor Command-letter dated the 25th. April the unthink everybody, agreed that it was a very ing. Troups in Ohina).
Hon. Mr. CLAUD SEVERN, O.M.G. (Colonial Secretary).
Hon. Mr. J. H. Kemp, A.C., C.B.E., (Attorney-General).
Hon Mr. RO. HoHISON, M.B.E. (Colonial Treasurer).
Hon. Mr W CHATHAM, C.AL.G. (Director of Public Works).
Hor. Mr ER HALLIVAS, O.B.E (Secretary for Chinese Affairs).
Hon. Mr. E. D. C. WOLFE (Captain- Superintendent of Police).
Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK, E.C. Hon. Mr. Lau CHU PAK,
Hon. Mr. Ho Foox.
Hon. Mr E V. D. PARI
Hon. Mr. J. JOHNSTONE.
NEW MERKURE.
official members word informed that the Officer Administering the Government considered that a high-powered Wireless Telegraphy Station for commercial pur poses was urgently required and that be
addressing the Secretary of State for the Colonics on the subject. No com munication has us yet been received from the Secretary of State.
Q-What facilities is the G Government giving for the encouragement of Aerial Transportito and from this
Colony 1
4-This Government is in communier tion with the Imperial Authorities on the subject. It is unable at present to make a statement.
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK: With regard, sir, to Question No. 2, I do not understand Mr. A. G. M. FLETCHER, O.B.E (Clerk if the Government is going to take stops of Councils).
The Hon. Mr. H. O. HUTCHISON took the oath and his seat as a member of the Council in the place of the Hon. Mr. C. Mcl. Messer, Colonial Treasurer, on leave of absence from the Colony.
AAN, MINUTES
to do its best to establish a Pasteur Institute with trained assistance. The answer did not seem to be very clear on the point.
BE THE GOVERNOR: The question is irregular, but, with the permission of the Council, I will reply. The answer was
The minutes of the meeting of the Coun. somewhat obscure because the position is
FRIDAY, JANUARY 30TH
It, the committen wore to meet at more frequent intervals I am sure it would be a good thing, but, ka it is at present, I would depresste regular sessions as either you may have no work to do and waste your time by meeting, or else you may have too much to do and you would have then to postpone it to some other time. I think it would be more convenient it members communicated with the Chair man privately beforehand, and then if they desire any point to be brought for- ward to arrange for a meeting.
The Coloxia SBOBETART moved the cond resolution, relating to Standing Order No. 12
The AORNEY-GENERAL Conded.
HIS EXCELLENCY-This is merely a conse
quential amendment as a result of the first.
Both resolutions were carried.
satisfactory Committee as such. In this Colony the Colonia! Secretary (will obviously be Chairman, and the Trea surer is absolutely necessary as the natural officer to be on a Committee con- sidering the expenditure. I consider it desirable that the Director of Publio Works should be an ex-officio member of the Committee, and I think that the pre-
HIS EXCELLENCY-It is the custom at the sence of all the other official members Brat meeting of the Council that the names of the Standing Committee be might be dispensed with. Of course, under section 13, it will be always possible ofinced. In view of the alterations to for them to be present if they desired in the Standing Orders it is not necessary I think that that reform will be useful, to make any announcement as to the and I will now ask the Colonial Secretary Finance Committon and the Public Works to move the amendment.
Committee. The only Standing Com mitteo is the Law Committee to which I appoint the Attorney-General, as Chair- man, the Secretary of Chinese Affairs, the Hon. Mr. H. E. Pollock, the Hon. Mr. Lau Chu-pak and the Hon. Mr. J. John stone.
The COLOIAL SECRETARY moved the Arst resolution, and the ATTORNEY-GENERAL seconded.
Hon. Mr. POLLOCK-With reference to the motion now before the Council, I only have a faw remarks to make. In the first place, sir, I have the honour for the first time during a long period of service in this Council of now being a member of the Public Works Committee, or will be one when this amendment is passed, and should therefore like to say a few words,
I
eil held on December 23rd, 1919, were con- apmewhat obscure: but I am endeavouring about the second part of the resolution! firmed and signed as correct.
PAPAPERS
The Hon. COLONIAL STORETARY laid on the table by command of HE. the Governor, the Preliminary Report on the Purchase and Bale of Bice by the Govern ment of Hongkong during the year 1919.
QUESTIONS BY THE HON. ME, POLLOCK.
Hon. Mr. H. E. FOLLOC, KC, in accordance with notice given, asked the
to obtain at present statistics as to the s is known by the hon. members, at the number of ensen and other things, present time the Public Works Committee
if the and
number of cases
is convened at very irregular intervals, larger than I think it is, and the and is almost invariably convened at the expenditure is very small, it will no doubt suggestion of the Government. I do not be possible to establish such an institu- think, sir, that it is a very satisfactory tion. There will certainly not be work state of affairs at all. What I want to enough for a trained officer, but I think suggest for the consideration of your there will be little difficulty in obtaining Excellency is that the Publid Works Com- an assistant for the Bacteriological mittee ought to meet at regular intervals,
SUGGESTED REMOVAL OF MILI
TARY ESTABLISHMENTS.
The Hon. Mr. H. E. POLLOCK, K.C., in ccordance with notice givan, moved the following resolutions:-
That, with a view to giving facili
ties for commercial expansion, a Committee of the Legislative Coun- cit be appointed, consisting of His Excellency the General Officer Com- manding and two Oficial and three Unofficial Members of the Legisis- tive Council, for the purpose of considering and reporting to this Council upon the resumption by the Hongkong Government of the Mili tary Establishments on the Queen's Road and the Lerms and conditions of such resumption.
The Has. Mr. Pollock: "Sir, I think it
following questions, to which the Colonia institute for that work. There is a say six times a year, and let us say for will be admitted by those who are
Secretary replied:
What steps is the Government taking for the purpose of out the recommendations of the
Coroner's Jars with regard to the Como Victor Gaal tragedy, in which two Warders lost their livce? A. The points raised by the verdict require a considerable amount of investi gation and it is impossible to make a statement at present. It will probably be found desirable to appoint a Committee of investigation, on which perhaps the honourable member would be willing to
dificulty in connection with the matter which I will explain privately to the hon member at any time.
~ VINANCIAL MINUTES. The COLONIAL SECRETARY laid on the table by command of E.E the Governor Financial Minutes 1 and 2, and moved that they be referred to the Finance Committee.
The COLONIAL TREASURER seconded and this was agreed to.
AMENDMENT OF STANDING ORDERS.
The following resolutions were on the agenda in the name of the Colonial
Secretary
That Standing Order No. 11 be smended as follows:-
In sub-section (a) by the omission of
all the words after "Chairman and the substitution of the follow ing words "The Treasurer, the Director of Public Works and the Unofficial Members of the Council." In sub-section (c) by the omission of all Chairman" and
at
the sake of argument, on the first Friday acquainted with the conditions of this in every alternate mouth of the year. Colony, and I am sure it must have struck And, sir, I would suggest that priorato 30. Excellency already, that there are such regular meetings," say ten days or a very limitet opportunitice for office and fortnight before such meetings, the Dire businees, expansion in this Colony, and tor of Public Works, as Chairman, should that, therefore, it would be desirable if circulate to the members of the Public we could arrive at anch an arrangement Works Committee the proposed arenda, that the military establishments on the and that it may be permissible for any Queen's Road should be removed -to" a member of the Committee, on receipt of more distant-a less central-spot, in order the agenda, to give notice to the Director to give room for commercial and trade, of Public Works, as Chairman, of his expansion in this Colony. I would ven- desire to bring up any particular questure to suggest that such a commitice, és tion which he wishes to discuss, and also the resolution proposes would be a anit- to ask that papers upon that particular able committee for bringing mattere to subject may be laid before the Committee a head. We should have on the Com Q-Will the Government consider the
of establishing advisability
at the meeting. I think, sir, that if that mittes the highest military officer in the procedure be adopted the Public Works Colony, affcial members and also un- Pasteur Institute in this Colony 1
Committee will have some sort of control official members as representing the tex What would be approximately the
and some sort of grasp over questions? cost of doing so! Will the Govern
of municipal developments in this colony.
payers and the general public of the ment procure the services of a
At present the Committee meets
Colony. I think, sir, my main reason for trained and fully qualified man, who has passed through the course
haphazard times and is only Eble to dis suggesting that the Committee should be ense the one specific question that the so composed is that it is obvious that at & Pasteur Institute
Government brings up. That is not unless a Committee of this character is A-The m
is receiving considera-
the substi of the words "the satisfactory position for a Public Works appointed you will have an almost inter tion. In view of the very small number
Treasurer, and the Unofficial Mem Committee to be in. It does not enable minable quadrilateral correspondence, of cases occurring in the Colony and the
"bers of the Council,"
them to carry out as they ought to the between the military authorities, the War existence of Pastour. Institutes within
That Standing Order No. 12 be functions of a municipal committee or Office, the Colonial Office and the Govern- easy reach at Baigon and Shanghai it
amended as follows:-
council. Once a year when the Budget is ment here. You will have the War Office does not appear that it would be justifi
coming up for discussion there is a sort passing the matter on to the Colonial able to incur any large expense but it
of full dress debate on public works and Office and the Colonial Office passing the seems possible that a special building
several other public matters. I think matter back hore, and perhaps in some could be dispensed with, in which case no
this is a wrong procedure and that the cuces you will have the stream setting very considerable expense would be in-
Public Works Committee ought during back the other way and you will volved except for the salary of the officer
the year, at stated intervals, to have a have this Government communicating with required for the work. The normal work of the Bacteriological Institute is, how-
grasp of various municipal matters going the Colonial Office, and that office with In line 5 by the substitution of the over, becoming suficiently large to justify
word "the" for the word such in the colony and that the members the Wax Office, and so on. It seems highly the appointment of an additional assist
should have an opportunity of question desirable and the unofficial members of H.E. THE GOVERNOR-With regard tong the Chairman on matters of develop this Council are of this opinion that a ant and it might be possible to obtain an officer trained in antirabic work for such the motion which stands in the name of ment, and also have an opportunity of Commitice such as I propose should be post. A serious difficulty is the main the Colonial Secretary, I should like to bringing up such matters and asking for appointed. We think this will save much
say a few words in explanation. It is papers relating to such matters, se the ance of a constant supply of the nece within the memory of the hon. members public works of the colony. Of course may be evolved for submission to the
the wordn
In line 1 by the omission of the words either" and "or the Public Works Committee."
In line 3 by the omission of the words either of such Committees and the substitution of the words "the
Committee."
I cannot expect your Excellency to give
correspondence and concrete proposals
Colonial Office and the War Office as me an answer at the present moment, but the
ing the considered opinion of the high- est military officer
the official
I trust that may suggestions will meet with
J Int view of the bad example set by hofficial member that all the unofficial your careful consideration.eundret Mes kilónial members of the Council
י.
material for inoculation, "which
that at the first meeting at which I had might not have to be used more than once the bonour to preside I said that I would in two or three years.
give effect to the desire expressed by an
the exhibition of crimes of violence members of the Council should be and other criminal acts on
on cinema
appointed to the Public Works Com His ExCELLENOY-I should just like I think, r, there can be no question filmus, will the Government give mittes found on investigation that, without it being considered an answer, that there are other sites which could be directions to the Censors to refuse
in order to carry out the proposal, it to make one or two observations in cop found, for the military establishments of pses films for exhibition in this would be necessary to amend, Standing nection with what. Mr. Pollock has said. the Colony then this central situation, im- Colony which show the execution of Order number 17, which provider that I quite agree that if you have a
poding commercial progress and expan any of such crimes or criminal acte the Public Works Committee shall consist Works Committee it is just that
pulsion, and if such & Committee could meet A-It would be difficult to suppress of the Director of Public Works as Chair-meet occasionally, sad do some
think it would produce speedy and films that depicted crises of violence man and four other members. That gather that the difficulty in the past has antifactory results. There is a consider mere subsidiary incidente in long accounts for the second paragraph of the been due to the fact that it was rather
serials, as to do so would eliminate a very first part of the hon. member's motion. hard to get the unofficial members ta ka kable shortage of offices, and unless more
odation is found it must result in
Colony which are offices and shops
large proportions of the films received With regard to the first paragraph it an intercat in such matters. The bon. here. The censoring authorities have, will be observed that in section II of the member mentioned the question of the European firms having to go down to the however, been requested to give careful Standing Orders it states that the Fin- Estimates. I expressed at the time my attention to the matter and in particular ance Committee shall consist of the surprisu that the Public Works Committed,
prohibit Alms in which crimes of
into the ence and the use of firearms by evil. Colonial Becretary and such officials, had not gone more thoroug
form the chief attraction.as excepting the Governor or the Officer matter of the Public Work expenditure.
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