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THE TIMES NAVAL CORRESPONDENT.] ember 23rd, Mr. Outhwaite called at- tention to a speech made by Lord North Although the first official oliffe on a recent occasion. He said that ment loft in doubt the means employed on all hands, in clubs and in the City, by the enemy to sink the Britannic, later bo had beard men discussing the speech, nowa points unmistakably to the torpedo which included statements in contravening of the great hospital ship by a sub- tion of the Defence of the Realm Act.

The luncheon at which Lord North cliffe spoke was attended by several hundred persons, including journalista, advertising agents, and some members of the House, an audience peculiarly suitable for the dissemination” of news. Lord Northcliffe had just returned from abroad, where be presumed he had been in close association with the Commander in-Chief and had been with the French Minister. He came back charged with tain facts for the purpose of showing that it was essential that compulsion should be enforced on Ireland. He understood Lord Northcliffe disclosed the number of British forces at the front. He had been informed that the War Office had not given these figures, but he understood that

Northcliffe Lørd associated with them the name of Bir Douglas Haig Ho had been told that Lord Northcliffe also stated that Russian forces in the field were less than half the British forces in the field, and expressed an opinion of no compliment Ary nature on their efficiency. If Lord Northcliffe could do this for his parti- cular purpose the demand that every Englishman and Irishman should be dragged to the shambles-was he also not to have permission to make use of such facts in support of the view that we should keep our men in the factories and equip the great man-power of Russia!

confidential information and stated cor-

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FIFTH MONTH ON THE SOMMD.

50 BATTLES AND 50 VICTORIES."

AN APPRECIATION OF OUR TROOPS.

[BY "THE TIMES" SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT]

At the beginning of November-as grey. the Germans openly, boasted that our and sodden a month as November can be offensive had finally spent itself and had become embedded in the med. Our answer was the amazing triumph of the Aucre, with the taking of 7000 prisoners to sweeten the cup of Beaumont-Hamel, Beaucourt, and St. Pierre Divion. So five months of continuous success was capped by what future critics may pro nounce the most brilliant victory of all the battle.

marine. The circumstanes that the at- tack was made in broad daylight, when all the marks of the vessel's merciful mis sion must have been most conspicuous, and when her course showed that she was obviously on her way to pick up sick and

The Battle," one must call it 80, wounded, shows that a deliberate oppor- because the whole of the five months tunity was made by the Germans to eighting on the Bomme, with whatever is bibit their disregard for the laws of na- tions and at the same time to get rid of vessel likely to be a formidable com- petitor for passenger traffic after the

The record of the Central Powers has been particularly bad, not only in regard to the treatment of the hospital ships of the Allies, but also to the glaring accusa tions and insinuations of an improper use of such vessels by Great Britain. Th latter became so frequent and mendaci- ous about a year ago that the Admiralty had to issue more than one categorical thedonial of them. These falso storica began about the time that the submarine war on merchant ships was instituted, and when the hospital ship Asturias had been unsuccessfully attacked by torpedo in the English Channel,. One of the first of them stated that Germans in Ports mouth Harbour had reported that two hospital ships started from there daily for France, deeply loaded, returning regular ly unloaded, as could be seen from their emerging higher from the water. It was therefore suggested that the ships carried war materials and ammunition under the protection of the Red Cross. This palpable lie was possibly based on a sub stratum of truth, since hospitals require supplies, but it indicated the eagerness of the German official mind to find ex cusco for unlawful acts,

There ought to be equality of treatment the humblest individual. This

Cabini autocrat

he hind Ministers under his control and others. (Sir H. Dalziel When did he say that?) Lord Northcliffe also passed a very dis paraging criticism upon General Barrail, Now was that to be permitted to other individuals than Lord Northcliffe Was it not likely to cause dissensior among the Allies, especially at a time when they gaw the agony of Roumanía, looking to Shat Eastern force for suecour!

BUGGESTIONS ABOUT GREECS.

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He thought he had said enough to show. that the statements made by Lord North chiffe were at any rate sensational. He believed Lord Northcliffe was able to give them some interesting information as regards influences operating in the pre- sent strange anomalous positionin Greece. That was a matter which parti- cularly interested members like the hon.

for St. Augustine's, member virtually suggested that the Allies should got rid of King Constantine, and the member for West Clare, who demanded the abolition of the King, He had noticed, by the way, that in his replies to those auggestions and demands thou Under-Secretary for Foreign always seemed to be in an embarrassed position. He could understand it if what Lord Northcliffe said were true. The Russian Government had intervened to prevent us putting pressure upon King Constantine. The Tsar had virtually said, "Hands off my cousin the King."

yet to come, including the successes of

the French upon our right, are all one military operation. the standards of past wars, it has been Yet, measured by

not one battle, but 80 battles and 50 victories.

'ALLIES' 80,000 -PRISONERS. Germany has recently put forward "estimates" of the British and French losses, and I am able to state with posi- tiveness that the total British and French losses together do not amount to the Army alone. It might or might not be to figure which is given for the British their credit if it was true that they had lost fewer men than we and still their armies had given ground. But it is not true. And they have lost over 80,000 prisoners--more than the strength of nine of their divisions. Do fighting nine whole divisions surrender-whether piecemeal or 'ca masse-in one continuous action in any circumstances other than those of defeati

defeat, but twice, at least, we know once Not only have they suffered local in mid-July and once towards the end of September-that their whole military machine was perilously near to breaking down.

We never expected here, or sought, to break it down. It was not with that end that this battle was fought. But we have learned beyond a peradven- ture in the course of it, that broken it can be. And never has victory been more economical for us and more costly to the enemy, than in this last month of Novembor, when, with comparatively light loss ourselves, we the British alono -have taken one of those nine divisions. prisoner and have put out of action the equivalent of four more.

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 320, 1917.

GREECE'S SECRET TREATY.

REVELATIONS OF THE FIRST ATHENS PLOT.

The Venizelist Free Preis publishes an interview from an Allied military officer whose name is not stated but who is understood to be French.

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The first accusation this officer brings the dainty little gentle-as-nature laxa ruined Serbia, not merely, as its post freo, 60 cents the phial, from Dr. is that Greece by her equivoul attitude tives, are obtainable of all chemista, also generally thought, by refusing her aid. Williams Medicine Co., 99, Bsschusa but also by persuading Serbia not to Road, Shanghai. attack at an earlier date when she was ready. When Berbis was attacked, on two fronts, Greece, as is known, not only refused aid but also, what perbagi known, M. Gounaris entreated Serbia +! make peace with Germany immediately.

Continuing his accusations, the officer; spoke of the nse for a long period by the Germans of the official Greek military despatch bags in Macedonia.

Greck speaking German officers used to "Do you know," he said, "that tan,

the Greek uniform, and, by orders of the pass back and forth in Greece wearing Government, getting every convenience accorded them? Thus several times they traversed the Allied lines in Macedonia, one of them who used the pseudonym of Michailides actually coming into our camp, and, when information arrived, escaping arrest only in the nick of time by some jugglery with the official Greek motor-cara.

"Do you know that there exists a secret treaty between Greece and Germany, Austria, Bulgaria, and Turkey? The signature of this treaty took place in Athens on the occasion of the Isat journey thither on January 1st of the German doctors Krausse and von Eisenberg, who, came to treat the King, but apparently not for that only. Do you know that these physicians in the course of their

Greek officer of high rank at Drama 1 hidden for four days in the house of a most sceret return journey remained

by the terms of this treats, whenever certain conditions were fulfilled by Ger- many the Grock forces both on land and sea were simultaneously to attack us. We have the proofs in our hands.

WAS THE KALBER IN GARECE ! We hold an order of the Greek General Staff by which it is enjoined that the Allied forecs at Balonica wore to be surrounded by Greek forces. When we investigated this we found that at the time we were actually surrounded,

Later in the year the German Wireless elaborated other charges of the kind. Reports from Spain were said to have told of large numbers of hospital ships having been seen on their way to the Medi- terranean. The ships had become much more numerous, it was alleged, since the activity of the 7 boats in that sea: Sworn statements were also said to be in

"We have another order in which German possession that war materials had been carried in such ships labelled

directions are given that the Allied camp soft soap."

To us now, looking backward over the shall be commanded by Greck artillery Describing the biggest course of the battle so far, it is impossible and machine guns. We have in our pos- fraud the British Navy has practised,"

to say which of the greater victories will session a photograph of the German a German messago on November 21st, in the retrospect of time stand out as the Prince of Lippe on your western front 1015, spoke of 70 British transports hav-most glorious-the first shattering of the in company with Colonel Strategos, an ing passed Gibraltar, all "heavily laden and painted like hospital ships, on their lines on July 1st; the extraordinary emissary of the Greek General Staff, taken brilliance of the whole attack-in con-

when they wore, arranging together the way to Greek waters." In denying all ception and execution of July 14th; the these stories, the Admiralty said that two great pushes in September that of route of the German army and the point there were 42 British hospital ships work the 15th, which gave us Flers, Cous-

of its junction with the Greek forces. ing to and from the Mediterranean, and celette, and Martinpuich, or that of the

"The Kaiser, after his celchrated although all were fully ballested to 21st, secure safety and comfort, they were not Lesboeufs, and Morval and made the failuto Greek territory, where he met im-

WO when

Look fluenteue journey to Nish, also made an excursion "deeply laden," but on the contrary of Combies inevitable; that independent portant personages. Affairs

were generally come feet higher than deep action at the same time which capped the draught. Other counts in the indictment lang period of stern fighting with the

The interest of this interview is such as to deserva quotation, whether the state. were similarly disposed of. In view of capture of Thiepval; or this last triumphments in it be absolutely accurate or not. the allegations, however, the hospital which has set us astride of the valley of With regard to the various points raised, ship Mauretania was examined at Naples the Ancre and yielded Beaumont-Hamel, M: Venizelos, when the Germano-Bulgars by the American, Danish, and Swiss Con- with its almost legendary strength, into attacked Serbia, immediately sent & gul, who jointly signed a declaration that our hands. there were neither combatants nor war-

cipher message to M. Naoum, Greek like stores on board her.

Minister at Sofia, bidding him spply for his passports, as Greecs would immed- iately fulfil her obligations to her ally Serbia. M. Naoum replied that before taking any such step he thought it was his duty to inform M. Venizelos that he was aware that assurances of non-inter- vention had been given to Bulgaria by highly placed personages at Athens. On learning that he had been tass uncon- resigned.--

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The position seemed to be either that Lord Northcliffe had successfully defied or put aside the Dolence of the Realm Act or he had broken the Act. In the

person is the more damaging his state first case all he asked was that knowledgement must be, and we must take that fact should be widespread of what was per- into account. (Hear, hear.) I have no missible in public statements. If, on the information as to this meeting, and no other hand, the noble lord had broken the evidence has been given. Defence of the Realm Act he should be member for Hanley was not there, and

prosocuted like any other individual.

The hon.

The Army heretofore has talked of July 14th as having been the most brilliant of all the brilliant days. I am not sure that historians of the war will not give pre- cedence to the expture of Beaumont Hamel. What is at least vertain and most comforting is that, so far from our offensive having weakened or spent itself, we have been able, in spite of mað end frost, to win in this month of November

I could not prosecute on his statement. one of the greatest successes, whether institutionally over-ridden M. Venimlos I ara not reflecting upon him. I mean the tactical importance of the ground

that I could not prosecute on the fact that he repeated statements made by somebody else. As far as the Government is concerned, there is no evidence that any statements have been made detri

won or in the losses indicted on the enemy, that have been won by any arms in all the course of the war, que

ARMY'S GLORIOUS RECORD.

MU, QUTHWAIZE'S STATEMENTS DENIED. Sir H. Dalziel said his hon. friend had invited him to speak because he was present at the luncheon referred to. He did not rise to defend Lord Northcliffe, who was quite able to take care of himmental to the public intereat. II One besitates again to drive the subject self and need not be disturbed by any evidence is placed before us, of course, home, yet always one doubts whether thing which had been said that night. we shall consider it with the sune those at a distance understand how really He agreed with his hon. friend that Lord impartiality whether it is Lord North-fine our troops have proved themselves Northcliffe should stand in the same cliffe or any one else who is concerned.troops of every grade and in every class position before the law as a poor man I cannot believe that those figures were of work. I have recently surveyed the would do. If a poor man were accused used, because they were so, Inaccurate, record of the Oversea troops on the of having broken the Defence of the They are not a disclosure of official Somme, and nothing could be finer. The Realm regulations he would say Pro-information, but since the hon. gentle splendid devotion of the Newfound duce evidence of the offence," He would wan has repeated, whether on the landers on July 1st, the epic of the South not depend upon hearsay or upon the authority of Lord Northcliffe or of his Africans in Delville Wood, the dash and statements of anonymous slanderers who own informants, a statement that the determination of the Australiang at and dared not come forward but, knowing Russian forces at the front are only half beyond Fozières, the brilliance of the the war enthusias of his hon. friend, of ours, and that they are not efficient, Canadian attack on Courcelette, the used him for their purpose,

(Hear, it is gross inaccuracy and a reflection extraordinarily successful fighting of the Hear) Let the House be fair, even to upon a most gallant Army. (Hear, New Zealanders around Flers each of Lord Northcliffe. What were the facts hear.) It is an exceedingly unwise state these is among the finest chapters in the The gathering was a purely private ment to deliver, because no Army has story of the war.

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member, and Lord Northcliffe was pre- sent as a guest. The fact was impressed upon every man who was there that it was a strictly private gathering. Half a-dozen members of that House present would any of them say that what Oathwaite had stated was true! If people knew it to be so, all they had to do was to go to Bow-street or place the facts in the hands of the Public Pro secutor. (Hear, henr.) From what he know he could say that Lord Northcliffe need not be afraid of any statement

All these things have been told before, which he made at the luncheon. He is the only reason why I take any notice Bach makes, is it were, a gallant patch denied entirely many of Mr. Outhwaite's of it at all. I think the Secretary of of colour in the splendid tapestry of this his job as if he had done it all his life, statements. The hon. member said, for War should contradict that statement battle; and as a background to them all, dxample, that Lord Northcliffe's remarks publicly in the assembly in which it is between and around them, vying with whether that job be some fatigue work were prejudicial to recruiting; but what made. I do not quite agree that the fact them in brilliance and fusing all into in the rear or going in cheerful silence was said was that the complacency of the that this being a private meeting makes one glorious whole, has been the behaviour to what is probable death. There never

Mr. and Mrs. W. T. Edwards, Mr. and Government was dangerous to the State, a great difference. There were five or six of the stanch English regimenta

was so Army so completely free from

Mrs. Edmade, Mr. J. McFarlane, MI and that every man thould do his best hundred persons present. If the hen know already why it is impossible to fuss, which took whatever came its way. Wilson, Mrs. Norrifield, and child- to make the Government realize the great member for Hanley made a statement to mention each regiment in detail; and

uttermost hardship or a cup of tea(z)

ren, Mrs. Roske, infant and Boy, Mrs. task which lay before them. (An Hon, 500 or 600 people detrimental to the ongs before, in trying to celebrate them

the same spirit of equable indifference. Talfourd, Mrs F. Hole and According to his recollection Lord North any evidence, I should certainly prosecute of the English counties From north to besoisin was not just a bit of the daily fuir, Miss Gallen, Mr. W. A Cater Trade Regul Member-Did he gite the figuree) prosecution of this war, and I could get adequately, I have almost called the roll bod individually and in the mass children, Mr. H. Reïnèkes, Mrs. A. W. like heroes without a consciousness that Eastman and children, M. WA cliffe gavo no exact figures.

bim. The same thing would apply to sold and went to east Northumberland ta

and Devon, Gloucester and Norfolk

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Hunting Me G. Currinbhoy Bees of Pomaros, Boslen Mr. Houston said he was present at the who

they have alike done magnificently. He The Army is under no illusions yet as Mr. B. Dabas, Mr. and Mrs Avenel luncheon, and he did not hear one word who belongs to one of the London divi- to Germany" power being broken. But and child M. L. P. Sarratt, Mr, and

lution, Fatal Suido; Eigrón from Lord Northcliffe that might not to can say 40 with pride, and all the it knows quite well that it is a better Mrs. W. J. Dunford, aulant and hurm

Puširals, Tabiju, of Mong have been published broadcast in every now too what the Midlanders, both Beld. Each man knows that he was no

Army know--and the Germans probably Army than Germany can put into the Mre A. Clark and servant, HY. R. &. ↑ Maskinar ward other Conta paper in the country (Hear, hear.) North and South, have done As ons better than his felloss, when at home, and

Baalfeld, Mrn, K. Ward, Master L. & so he might say that as he did not looks back certain names associated with he has learned that the German is not ne

K. Ward, M. and Mrs. G. G. Clarko Bough sealand in ororg. drink any alcoholic liquor at the luncheon particular incidents flash out upon the good as be. It is only a question of men infant and amah, Mrs. G. C. Clark and

and, Lafont, Mr. and Mrs. Gr W. Wood is every year móré be thought his recollection was pretty memory the names of Manchesters enough men and guns and we can ha, Mrs. A. W. Olsen, Mr. Mispotell accurate. (Laughter and cheers.)

(Continued at foot of next Volumes,)

asuredly grind the German defence to Mr. H. A. Nisbety and Mr. E

Wilson.

Mr. Lloyd George-If mything is said which is detrimental to the intereste of the Blate at the present moment it makes no difference as far as is Government are concerned, whether it is Lord North cliffe of this poor Tabourer from Aber tillery. I think it is important that everybody should know that, As a matter of fact, the more influential a (Continued al foot of ikat Volumen. }

Lord Northcliffe.

The House then adjourned.

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