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A-They should be flogged so that they can remember it. Dr. ATKINSON-Have you ever flogged a man yourself?

WITNESS-Never flogged a man.

Q-Have you ever been employed in the Gaol as flogger :

A-Never.

Q-Some of the turnkeys are floggers?

A-Yes.

Q-Have you ever seen blood flow as the result of a flogging at the Gaol?

A--I have.

Q-After how many strokes?

A-That I cannot say; it would be after twelve or more, unless a man who was getting six had been flogged previously; that might cause the blood to flow.

Q-Have there been more floggings at the Gaol recently than formerly?

A-I believe so."

Q-Under which Superintendent do you think there have been more floggings?

A-Under the present.

Q-You think there have been more floggings this year than last year?

A-I think so.

THE CHAIRMAN (to Dr. Atkinson) Mr. LETHBRIDGE was on leave last year.

Dr. ATKINSON-Do you understand Chinese?

WITNESS-Only a little--just enough to get along with.

Q-You understand enough Chinese to get along with the prisoners in the Gaol and to do your duty?

A-I can get along with the Chinese so far as talking is concerned.

Q-With reference to the food supplied to the prisoners, do you think the quality

of the rice is better than the coolies get outside?

A--I have often heard it is better than the coolies get outside.

THE CHAIRMAN-From whom?

A-From several.

Q-What sort of people? People inside the Gaol?

A-From Europeans.

Dr. ATKINSON-Not from Chinamen-Chinamen have not told

you

that?

WITNESS-No.

Q-Have you seen the rice supplied to the Gaol recently?

A-Yes.

Q-You see it when it is handed round ?

A-Yes.

Q-What is the appearance of it?

A-It is not white but brownish.

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