SECOND REVISED AGENDUM:*
NUCLEAR POLICY
Consideration of Preliminary Draft Paper
(Signed) N.C.C. TRENCH
J.R. STEPHENS
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7th September 1967
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DEFENCE REVIEW WORKING PARTY
KINUTES of a Neoting of the Working Party held in Conference Room 'B',
Cabinet Office, S.W.1, 14 on WEDNESDAY, 5th SEPTEMBER 1967 at 2.30 p.m.
¡ir. R.A. Sykes,
Foreign Office
PRESENT:
Ifr. P. Rogers,
Cabinet Office (In the Chair)
Group Captain W. Kent Ministry of Defence
Ir. E., Rose,
Cabinet Office
Ir. P. cholls,
Treasury
Kr. 7.S. Carter
THE FOLLOWING WERE ALSO FRESENT:
Commonwealth Office
Mr. E. Bolland,
Foreign Office
ir. P. Cooper,
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SECRETARY:
ifr. N.C.C. Tronch
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THE CHAIRMAN said that he had called the meeting to enable him to convey
to members of the Working Party the general sense of the discussion on
our relations with China on 5th September in the Defence and Oversea
Folicy Committee. Hinisters recognised the conflicting factors which
must govern policy vis-a-vis China and Hong Kong on the one hand, the
need not to prejudice the position of the office of the British Charge
d'Affaires in Peking, and on the other, the necessity for showing
firmness and maintaining control in Hong Kong. To do this, the situation
needed to be kept under constant and careful review. Everything
necessary must be done to hold the situation in Hong Kong, but possible
repercussions on our staff in Peking and their dependants must be borne
in mind. This feeling amongst Ministers did not mean that every decision
need be put up to the Committee. On the contrary, it should normally be
possible to settle most problems bilaterally between the Foreign Office
and the Commonwealth Office, after consultation with the Ministry of
Defense as appropriate, and subject to referance to the Ministers in
charge of those Departments on all issues of particular
political delicacy.
In discussion, it emerged that there was no conflict between the
Departments concerned about the desirability of preserving a balance, so
far as possible, between the two factors involved. So far as procedure
was concerned, it seemed inevitable that Ministers would shortly have to
be consulted again, both about action against the Press in Hong Kong and
about the possible need to prescribe the death penalty for carrying
bombs.
As regards reinforcing the garrison of Hong Kong for the Chinese New
Year, the Committee were informed that the Ministers had not taken a
decision at their meeting on whether reinforcements were to be sent
before trouble started, or only in the event of trouble arising, but had
instruoted that this be further considered as a matter of urgency. The
present position was that one extra battalion was already in Hong Kong
and that the Commandor- in-Chief, Far East, wished it to stay there
until after 10th October. He had been asked whether he wanted further
reinforcements and his reply was
awaited. The view was expressed that there might be political advantage
in having an extra unit in the Colony before the period when trouble vas
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likely to arise both in order to demonstrate our determination to act
firmly and so that there would be no delay in bringing in reinforcements
if trouble arose, thus permitting their further exacerbation. One
possible solution,
if any units in Hong Kong were due for relief, might be to bring the
ralioving unit into Hong Kong before the out-going one loft.so that both
were present over the period of Chinese celebrations in October.
Summing up the discussion, THE CHALUMAN recalled that Hinisters had boon
inclined to feel that prevention was botter than oure. The Ministry of
Defence should consult the Foreign Office and Commonwealth Office when
the Commander-in-Chief's reply had been received and should keep tho
Treasury informed of developments.
The Working Party
Invited the Ministry of Defence to concert with the Common::ealth Office
and Foreign Office action on the possible reinforcement of the Hong Kong
garrison, and to keep the Treasury informed.
Cabinet Office, 8.7.1.
7th September 1967
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MEETING to be held in Conference Room 'B', Cabinet Office, Whitehall,
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HONG KONG
AGENDUM:
(i) Measures to be taken in Hong Kong
To be raised orally
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(ii) Possible Reinforcements for the Chinese New Year
To be raised orally
(Signed) N.C.C. TRENCH
J.R. STEPHENS
Cabinet Office, S.W.1.
5th September 1967
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REVISED AGENDUM
HONG KONG CONTINGENCY PLANNING
(Previous Reference: OPDO (DR)(67) 35th Meeting Minutes, Item: 1)
Memorandum by the Treasury
(OPDO(DR)(67) 54 - already circulated)
Memorandun by the Commonwealth Office
(OPDO(DR)(67) 56 - to be circulated)
Cabinet Office, S.F.1.
(Signed) J.R. STEPHENS
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AGENDUM :
HONG KONG CONTINGENCY PLANNING
(Previous Reference: OPDO (DR)(67) 35th Mooting Minutes, Item 1)
Memorandum by the Treasury
(OPDO (DR) (67) 54 already circulated) (OPDO(DR)(67)
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HONG KONG:
DMMEDIATE STUDY
(Previous Reference:
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To be raised orally
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HONG KONG: LONG-TERM STUDY
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To be raised orally by the Ministry of Defence
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At a meeting of the Defence Review Working Party this
morning, Mr. Cooper of the Ministry of Defence told those of
us who were concerned with Hong Kong that Mr. Stoddart
of the United States Embassy had asked to see him urgently
about Hong Kong, and in response Mr. Cooper had seen him at
9.30 this morning.
2. Mr. Stoddart said that the State Department were very
worried about Hong Kong. He did not give any specific
reasons, even when asked, for the State Department's agitation,
but asked Mr. Cooper how he saw the position.
giving
Mr. Cooper
gave a fairly guarded description of the situation as we saw
it, broadly along the lines of the paper which is being prepared by the
Working Party, in particular, our view that at the present time any
negotiation with the Chinese was out
of the question; that we were playing this in a fairly low
key and considered that we had the internal security situation
reasonably under control; but that if the Chinese really
decided to push us out, then Hong Kong was militarily
indefensible.
3.
Mr. Stoddart said that the description which
Mr. Cooper had given him was much the same as the reports they had been
receiving in the Embassy, both from the State
He added that the Russians Department and Hong Kong. had recently told
him that no kind of meaningful negotiation
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did Mr. Stoddart).
information.
He was grateful for Mr. Cooper's
ls. It was agreed that the members of the Working Party
who were present would report this to their respective
Departments. It was suggested that should we wish to
consult the Americans, i.a. over the possibility of their
sending vessels to Hong Kong (one of the possibilities
mooted in the Working Party paper) Mr. Stoddart's approach
would give us a convenient lead in. The security diffi-
culties about extending the scope of any planning would
still seem to remain valid.
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