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Mr. Tim S. Manuel Chan (in Cantonese):—I have a follow-up question. If Mr. Ip cannot answer it now, I would appreciate if it can be taken to the Markets and Street Traders Select Committee for discussion. I remember when discussing this at the last Markets and Street Traders Select Committee meeting, Mr. IP as the Chairman said, we had basically agreed to the plan a year ago so that it was brought to the meeting for discussion. What is stated in paragraph 2 of the reply is somewhat different from what Mr. IP said. I would like to ask Mr. Ip which one is correct? This is my first point.
The second point is for the Department to answer clearly and without prejudice. It is about hawker blackspots. Basically, we have not achieved anything. Is it due to management problems or manpower shortage? The reply given for this question is inadequate. Does Mr. IP agree? Does he think that the Markets and Street Traders Select Committee should discuss it in more detail?
MR. IP KWOK-CHUNG (in Cantonese):—I would like Mr. CHAN to clarify his first point. I did not grasp his meaning.
About the second point on whether there has been any problem over management, in fact, I have stated very simply in paragraph 9 of the reply that we have drawn up a 5-year plan and that we had an internal seminar on hawker management at which we went over the problems and difficulties concerned. Of course, if we formulate policies in the 5-year plan, saying if we are determined to eradicate illegal hawking activities, we may need a lot of additional staff. But if that is not our policy, and as I said in the reply, many citizens would not regard illegal hawking as criminal offences but rather social crimes. This may be an objective judgement and there may be different points of views. So in actual fact, I would like to have an objective study of how we and members of the public are going to look at the problem. Then we may be able to come up with a conclusion when we review the 5-year plan. I think we are able to solve the issue raised by Mr. Chan after we have reached an initial conclusion.
In any case, I think the view given by Mr. CHAN is a good one. We should pay attention to strengthen the work efficiency of the Hawker Control Officer grade by means of administrative measures. In fact, I did mention in my reply that the purpose of establishing the Hawker Control Officer grade in 1994 was towards the right direction.
MOTIONS
(1) Mr. Ronnie Wong Man-chiu, Chairman of the Recreation Select Committee, moved the following motion:
'RESOLVED that the Public Health and Municipal Services Ordinance (Public Pleasure Grounds) (Amendment of Fourth Schedule) (No. 5) Order
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Mr. Tim S. Manuel Chan (in Cantonese):—I have a follow-up question. If Mr. İp cannot answer it now, I would appreciate if it can be taken to the Markets and Street Traders Select Committee for discussion. I remember when discussing this at the last Markets and Street Traders Select Committee meeting, Mr. IP as the Chairman said, we had basically agreed to the plan a year ago so that it was brought to the meeting for discussion. What is stated in paragraph 2 of the reply is somewhat different from what Mr. IP said. I would like to ask Mr. Ip which one is correct? This is my first point.
The second point is for the Department to answer clearly and without prejudice. It is about hawker blackspots. Basically, we have not achieved anything. Is it due to management problems or manpower shortage? The reply given for this question is in-adequate. Does Mr. IP agree? Does he think that the Markets and Street Traders Select Committee should discuss it in more detail?
MR. IP KWOK-CHUNG (in Cantonese):—I would like Mr. CHAN to clarify his first point. I did not grasp his meaning.
About the second point on whether there has been any problem over management, in fact, I have stated very simply in paragraph 9 of the reply that we have drawn up a 5-year plan and that we had an internal seminar on hawker management at which we went over the problems and difficulties concerned. Of course, if we formulate policies in the 5-year plan, saying if we are determined to eradicate illegal hawking activities, we may need a lot of additional staff. But if that is not our policy, and as I said in the reply, many citizens would not regard illegal hawking as criminal offences but rather social crimes. This may be an objective judgement and there may be different points of views. So in actual fact, I would like to have an objective study of how we and members of the public are going to look at the problem. Then we may be able to come up with a conclusion when we review the 5-year plan. I think we are able to solve the issue raised by Mr. ChaN after we have reached an initial conclusion.
In any case, I think the view given by Mr. CHAN is a good one. We should pay attention to strengthen the work efficiency of the Hawker Control Officer grade by means of administrative measures. In fact, I did mention in my reply that the purpose of establishing the Hawker Control Officer grade in 1994 was towards the right direction.
MOTIONS
(1) Mr. Ronnie Wong Man-chiu, Chairman of the Recreation Select COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:-
'RESOLVED that the Public Health and Municipal Services Ordinance (Public Pleasure Grounds) (Amendment of Fourth Schedule) (No. 5) Order
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