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Mr. Chairman, I support your motion, which really allows 'Hong Kong people to rule Hong Kong'. A democratic and liberal system to produce a 'highly autonomous' government would understand the will of the people of Hong Kong and work out a Basic Law and the mainstream proposal. It is hoped that the attendants there held a plenary session in Guangzhou to discuss the amended version of the Basic Law.

From 9 to 15 January 1989, the Drafting Committee for the Basic Law has:

(1) a large number of people;

(2) The mainstream proposal pays no attention to the opinions of the vast majority of people;

(3) The mainstream proposal pays no attention to the quality of opinions: the mainstream proposal, however, ignores the views of the majority.

It is mentioned in the report of the Consultative Committee for the Basic Law that of the 70,000-odd written submissions received, 66,000 support the idea of having the Chief Executive and half of the Legislature selected by general election on a one-man-one-vote basis from 1997 onwards.

Table 1

1st stage 2nd to 3rd terms (1997-2012) "The new compromise proposal" and "Method for selecting the Chief Executive and members of the Legislative Council" proposed by Mr. Louis CHA To be selected by an 800-men election commission. Each candidate should be nominated by no less than 100 committee members, each of whom can only nominate one candidate. The proportions of representation shall be as follows: Industrial, commercial and financial sectors 200 (25%) Professional bodies 200 (25%) Labour, social services and religious communities 200 (25%) Members of the Legislative Council Members of district organizations 200 (25%) 2nd half of 2011 To hold a referendum and decide whether election for the Chief Executive and the Legislature should enter the 2nd stage. The two should 'develop at the same pace'. 2nd stage From 4th term onwards The election commission set up for the 1st to 3rd terms shall be transformed into a nominating committee. Proportions of representation shall remain unchanged. After an internal nomination process, the nominating committee will decide by ballot 5 candidates who have secured the greatest share of votes. One of them will in turn be selected as the Chief Executive by election on a one-man-one-vote basis. From 5th term onwards 1st term (1997-2000) 2nd term (2000-2004) 3rd term (2004-2008) 4th term (2008-2012) Through district general elections 15 (27%) 16 (29%) 25 (38%) Industrial, commercial and financial bodies 16 (29%) 25 (38%) 16 (25%) 40 (50%) Professionals 12 (22%) 12 (18.5%) 12 (15%) 16 (20%) Labour, social services and religious communities 12 (22%) 12 (18.5%) 12 (15%) 16 (20%) Total: 55 65 80 The Legislature 3 elections: (1) universal suffrage (2) generally elected by functional bodies (25%) (3) generally elected by functional bodies (50%) * Since the first Legislature is constituted under special circumstances, so all members shall be elected by an election committee.

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Page 141 of 182 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 273 272 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Mr. Chairman, I support your motion, which really allows 'Hong Kong people to rule Hong Kong'. A democratic and liberal system to produce a 'highly autonomous' government would understand the will of the people of Hong Kong and work out a Basic Law and the mainstream proposal. It is hoped that the attendants there held a plenary session in Guangzhou to discuss the amended version of the Basic Law. From 9 to 15 January 1989, the Drafting Committee for the Basic Law has: (1) a large number of people; (2) The mainstream proposal pays no attention to the opinions of the vast majority of people; (3) The mainstream proposal pays no attention to the quality of opinions: the mainstream proposal, however, ignores the views of the majority. It is mentioned in the report of the Consultative Committee for the Basic Law that of the 70,000-odd written submissions received, 66,000 support the idea of having the Chief Executive and half of the Legislature selected by general election on a one-man-one-vote basis from 1997 onwards. Table 1 1st stage 2nd to 3rd terms (1997-2012) "The new compromise proposal" and "Method for selecting the Chief Executive and members of the Legislative Council" proposed by Mr. Louis CHA To be selected by an 800-men election commission. Each candidate should be nominated by no less than 100 committee members, each of whom can only nominate one candidate. The proportions of representation shall be as follows: Industrial, commercial and financial sectors 200 (25%) Professional bodies 200 (25%) Labour, social services and religious communities 200 (25%) Members of the Legislative Council Members of district organizations 200 (25%) 2nd half of 2011 To hold a referendum and decide whether election for the Chief Executive and the Legislature should enter the 2nd stage. The two should 'develop at the same pace'. 2nd stage From 4th term onwards The election commission set up for the 1st to 3rd terms shall be transformed into a nominating committee. Proportions of representation shall remain unchanged. After an internal nomination process, the nominating committee will decide by ballot 5 candidates who have secured the greatest share of votes. One of them will in turn be selected as the Chief Executive by election on a one-man-one-vote basis. From 5th term onwards 1st term (1997-2000) 2nd term (2000-2004) 3rd term (2004-2008) 4th term (2008-2012) Through district general elections 15 (27%) 16 (29%) 25 (38%) Industrial, commercial and financial bodies 16 (29%) 25 (38%) 16 (25%) 40 (50%) Professionals 12 (22%) 12 (18.5%) 12 (15%) 16 (20%) Labour, social services and religious communities 12 (22%) 12 (18.5%) 12 (15%) 16 (20%) Total: 55 65 80 The Legislature 3 elections: (1) universal suffrage (2) generally elected by functional bodies (25%) (3) generally elected by functional bodies (50%) * Since the first Legislature is constituted under special circumstances, so all members shall be elected by an election committee. Page 141 of 182
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Page 141 of 182 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 273 272 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Mr. Chairman, I support your motion. which really allows 'Hong Kong people to rule Hong Kong'. democratic and liberal system to produce a 'highly autonomous' government would understand the will of the people of Hong Kong and work out a Basic Law and the mainstream proposal. It is hoped that the attendants there held a plenary session in Guangzhou to discuss the amended version of the From 9 to 15 January 1989, the Drafting Committee for the Basic Law has number of people: (2) The mainstream proposal pays no attention to the opinions of the vast has, in fact, abandoned the good aspects of other models. other models are not suitable to Hong Kong. The mainstream proposal whether a proposal is a good one, I do not believe that anyone can say best model being put forward. Before there is any yardstick to determine proposal championed by the Group of 89 seems to say that the latter is the amendments have been made. Rejecting all other models except the that the former accepts all principles of the latter; except that slight is made similar to the proposal championed by the Group of 89 in a way The above analysis gives us an impression that the mainstream proposal (3) The mainstream proposal pays no attention to the quality of opinions: mainstream proposal, however, ignores the views of the majority. by general election on a one-man-one-vote basis from 1997 onwards. The the idea of having the Chief Executive and half of the Legislature selected Law that of the 70 000-odd written submissions received, 66 000 support It is mentioned in the report of the Consultative Committee for the Basic Table 1 and members of the Legislative Council' proposed by Mr. Louis CHA "The new compromise proposal' and 'Methodo for selecting the Chief Executive 1st stage 2nd to 3rd terms (1997-2012) To be selected by a 800-men election commission. Each candidate should be nominated by no less than 100 committee members each of whom can only nominate one candidate. The proportions of representation shall be as follows: Industrial, commercial and financial 200 (25%) Chief sectors Executive Professional bodies 200 (25%) Labour, social services and religious communities 200 (25%) Members of the Legislative Council Members of district organizations 200 (25%) 2nd half of 2011 To hold a referendum and decide whether election for the Chief Executive and the Legislature should enter the 2nd stage. The two should 'develop at the same pace'. 2nd stage From 4th term onwards The election commission set up for the 1st to 3rd terms shall be transformed into a nominating committee. Pro- portions of representation shall remain unchanged. After an internal nomi- nation process, the nominating committee will decide by ballot 5 candidates who have secured the greatest share of votes. One of them will in turn be selected the Chief Executive by election on a one-man-one-vote basis. From 5th term onwards All Hong Kong deputies to the National People's Congress 1st term 2nd term 3rd term (1997-2000) (2000-2004) (2004-2008) 4th term (2008-2012) Through district 15 (27%) general elections Industrial, com- 16 (29%) 25 (38%) 16 (25%) 40 (50%) 16 (20%) 40 (50%) 16 (20%) mercial and financial bodies Professionals 12 (22%) 12 (18.5%) 12 (15%) 12 (15%) Labour, social services and religious communities Total: 12 (22%) 55 12 (18.5%) 12 (15%) 65 12 (15%) 80 08 3 elections: (1) universal suffrage (2) generally elected elected by functional (75%) bodies (25%) (3) generally (50%) elected elected by functional (50%) bodies The Legisla- ture * Since the first Legislature is constituted under special circumstances, so all members shall be elected by a election committee. For instance, district re- presentatives shall be selected by the election committee to take the seats re- turned by district general elections. Members of the first Legislature serve a shorter term of 3 years.
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Mr. Chairman, I support your motion. which really allows 'Hong Kong people to rule Hong Kong'. democratic and liberal system to produce a 'highly autonomous' government would understand the will of the people of Hong Kong and work out a Basic Law and the mainstream proposal. It is hoped that the attendants there held a plenary session in Guangzhou to discuss the amended version of the From 9 to 15 January 1989, the Drafting Committee for the Basic Law has

number of people: (2) The mainstream proposal pays no attention to the opinions of the vast

has, in fact, abandoned the good aspects of other models. other models are not suitable to Hong Kong. The mainstream proposal whether a proposal is a good one, I do not believe that anyone can say best model being put forward. Before there is any yardstick to determine proposal championed by the Group of 89 seems to say that the latter is the amendments have been made. Rejecting all other models except the that the former accepts all principles of the latter; except that slight is made similar to the proposal championed by the Group of 89 in a way The above analysis gives us an impression that the mainstream proposal (3) The mainstream proposal pays no attention to the quality of opinions: mainstream proposal, however, ignores the views of the majority. by general election on a one-man-one-vote basis from 1997 onwards. The the idea of having the Chief Executive and half of the Legislature selected Law that of the 70 000-odd written submissions received, 66 000 support It is mentioned in the report of the Consultative Committee for the Basic

Table 1

and members of the Legislative Council' proposed by Mr. Louis CHA "The new compromise proposal' and 'Methodo for selecting the Chief Executive

1st stage

2nd to 3rd terms (1997-2012)

To be selected by a 800-men election commission. Each candidate should be nominated by no less than 100 committee members each of whom can only nominate one candidate. The proportions of representation shall be as follows:

Industrial, commercial and financial

200 (25%)

Chief

sectors

Executive

Professional bodies

200 (25%)

Labour, social services and religious communities

200 (25%)

Members of the Legislative Council

Members of district organizations

200 (25%)

2nd half of 2011

To hold a referendum and decide whether election for the Chief Executive and the Legislature should enter the 2nd stage. The two should 'develop at the same pace'.

2nd stage

From 4th term onwards

The election commission set up for the 1st to 3rd terms shall be transformed into a nominating committee. Pro- portions of representation shall remain unchanged. After an internal nomi- nation process, the nominating committee will decide by ballot 5 candidates who have secured the greatest share of votes. One of them will in turn be selected the Chief Executive by election on a one-man-one-vote basis.

From 5th term onwards

All Hong Kong deputies to the National People's Congress

1st term 2nd term 3rd term (1997-2000) (2000-2004) (2004-2008)

4th term

(2008-2012)

Through district

15 (27%)

general elections

Industrial, com-

16 (29%)

25 (38%)

16 (25%)

40 (50%)

16 (20%)

40 (50%)

16 (20%)

mercial and

financial bodies

Professionals

12 (22%)

12 (18.5%) 12 (15%)

12 (15%)

Labour, social

services and

religious

communities

Total:

12 (22%)

55

12 (18.5%) 12 (15%)

65

12 (15%)

80

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3 elections: (1) universal suffrage (2) generally

elected

elected by

functional

(75%)

bodies (25%)

(3) generally

(50%)

elected

elected by functional (50%) bodies

The

Legisla-

ture

* Since the first Legislature is constituted under special circumstances, so all members shall be elected by a election committee. For instance, district re- presentatives shall be selected by the election committee to take the seats re- turned by district general elections. Members of the first Legislature serve a shorter term of 3 years.

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