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always check against the manifesto of the Elected Members for three years, and see how much that they have promised has been done. You can also see from motions which I hope will be brought forth in this meeting more frequently to how a particular member responds to a particular issue.

So, to sum up my points, it is a responsible body that we cherish what we think, and what we decide, and in order to achieve that research should be done first. At the end of the day, I feel sure that all of us here are accountable to the public and I would urge Members to support my motion so that we can have a good think so that if and when we decide to have meetings open, it has been done through a proper thinking process, and if we decide the meetings should not be open, at least we have encountered all the arguments in its favour and we have heard the argument against it and come to a rational decision, that is all I have to say.

The question on The honourable Maria TAM's motion was put.

The motion was carried with 16 votes for and eight votes against.

ADJOURNMENT—5.55 p.m.

CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese): That concludes the business of today's meeting. The Council stands adjourned until Tuesday, 12 July 1983 at 4.00 p.m.

PRESENT

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of 12 July 1983—4.00 p.m.

THE CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN, O.B.E., J.P. THE VICE-CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, MR. H. M. G. FORSGATE, O.B.E., J.P. MR. B. A. BERNACCHI, O.B.E., Q.C., J.P. MRS. E. ELLIOTT, C.B.E.

MR. KENNETH T. C. LO, O.B.E., J.P. DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG, J.P. MR. CHAN CHI-KWAN, PETER MISS CECILIA L. Y. YEUNG MR. EDMUND W. H. CHOW THE HONOURABLE F. K. HU, J.P.

MR. SHUM CHOI-SANG, M.B.E., J.P.

MRS. GRACE HO, O.B.E., J.P.

MR. LAWRENCE H. L. FUNG, J.P. MR. STEPHEN M. L. LAU, J.P.

MR. HOWARD H. W. YOUNG

THE HONOURABLE MARIA W. C. TAM, J.P.

MR. AUGUSTINE S. K. CHUNG

THE HONOURABLE SELINA CHOW, J.P.

DR. PHILIP C. K. KWOK, J.P.

MR. WALTER M. SULKE, O.B.E., J.P.

MR. L. H. KWAN

MR. JOSEPH Y. S. CHAN

MR. PAO PING-WING

MR. LAM CHAK-PIU

MR. FREDERICK K. K. FUNG

MR. LEE CHIK-YUET

MRS. NELLIE FONG

MR. TONG KAM-BIU

MR. SAMUEL P. W. WONG

ABSENT

DR. KIM Y. S. CHAM, J.P.

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62 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL always check against the manifesto of the Elected Members for three years, and see how much that they have promised has been done. You can also see from motions which I hope will be brought forth in this meeting more frequently to how a particular member responds to a particular issue. So, to sum up my points, it is a responsible body that we cherish what we think, and what we decide, and in order to achieve that research should be done first. At the end of the day, I feel sure that all of us here are accountable to the public and I would urge Members to support my motion so that we can have a good think so that if and when we decide to have meetings open, it has been done through a proper thinking process, and if we decide the meetings should not be open, at least we have encountered all the arguments in its favour and we have heard the argument against it and come to a rational decision, that is all I have to say. The question on The honourable Maria TAM's motion was put. The motion was carried with 16 votes for and eight votes against. ADJOURNMENT—5.55 p.m. CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese): That concludes the business of today's meeting. The Council stands adjourned until Tuesday, 12 July 1983 at 4.00 p.m. PRESENT HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Meeting of 12 July 1983—4.00 p.m. THE CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN, O.B.E., J.P. THE VICE-CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, MR. H. M. G. FORSGATE, O.B.E., J.P. MR. B. A. BERNACCHI, O.B.E., Q.C., J.P. MRS. E. ELLIOTT, C.B.E. MR. KENNETH T. C. LO, O.B.E., J.P. DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG, J.P. MR. CHAN CHI-KWAN, PETER MISS CECILIA L. Y. YEUNG MR. EDMUND W. H. CHOW THE HONOURABLE F. K. HU, J.P. MR. SHUM CHOI-SANG, M.B.E., J.P. MRS. GRACE HO, O.B.E., J.P. MR. LAWRENCE H. L. FUNG, J.P. MR. STEPHEN M. L. LAU, J.P. MR. HOWARD H. W. YOUNG THE HONOURABLE MARIA W. C. TAM, J.P. MR. AUGUSTINE S. K. CHUNG THE HONOURABLE SELINA CHOW, J.P. DR. PHILIP C. K. KWOK, J.P. MR. WALTER M. SULKE, O.B.E., J.P. MR. L. H. KWAN MR. JOSEPH Y. S. CHAN MR. PAO PING-WING MR. LAM CHAK-PIU MR. FREDERICK K. K. FUNG MR. LEE CHIK-YUET MRS. NELLIE FONG MR. TONG KAM-BIU MR. SAMUEL P. W. WONG ABSENT DR. KIM Y. S. CHAM, J.P. 106359-4L-10/83 PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY THE GOVERNMENT PRINTER, HONG KONG $17.50-G430783 THE SECRETARY, URBAN COUNCIL, MR. R. SPENCER, J.P. Page 46 of 194 63
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always check against the manifesto of the Elected Members for three years, and see how much that they have promised has been done. You can also see from motions which I hope will be brought forth in this meetings more frequently to how a particular member responds to a particular issue.

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So, to sum up my points, it is a responsible body that we cherish what we think, and what we decide, and in order to achieve that research should be done first. At the end of the day, I feel sure that all of us here are accountable to the public and I would urge Members to support my motion so that we can have a good think so that if and when we decide to have meetings open, it has been done through a proper thinking process, and if we decide the meetings should not be open, at least we have encountered all the arguments in its favour and we have heard the argument against it and come to a rational decision, that is all I have to say.

The question on The honourable Maria TAM's motion was put.

The motion was carried with 16 votes for and eight votes against.

ADJOURNMENT-5.55 p.m.

CHAIRMAN (in Cantonese):-That concludes the business of today's meeting. The Council stands adjourned until Tuesday, 12 July 1983 at 4.00 p.m.

PRESENT

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting of 12 July 1983—4.00 p.m.

THE CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN, O.B.E., J.P. THE VICE-CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, MR. H. M. G. FORSGATE, O.B.E., J.P. MR. B. A. BERNACCHI, O.B.E., Q.C., J.P. MRS. E. ELLIOTT, C.B.E.

MR. KENNETH T. C. LO, O.B.E., J.P. DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG, J.P. MR. CHAN CHI-KWAN, PETER MISS CECILIA L. Y. YEUNG MR. EDMUND W. H. CHOW THE HONOURABLE F. K. HU, J.P.

MR. SHUM CHOI-SANG, M.B.E., J.P.

MRS. GRACE HO, O.B.E., J.P.

MR. LAWRENCE H. L. FUNG, J.P. MR. STEPHEN M. L. LAU, J.P.

MR. HOWARD H. W. YOUNG

THE HONOURABLE MARIA W. C. TAM, J.P.

MR. AUGUSTINE S. K. CHUNG

THE HONOURABLE SELINA CHOW, J.P.

DR. PHILIP C. K. KWOK, J.P.

MR. WALTER M. SULKE, O.B.E., J.P.

MR. L. H. KWAN

MR. JOSEPH Y. S. CHAN

MR. PAO PING-WING

MR. LAM CHAK-PIU

MR. FREDERICK K. K. FUNG

MR. LEE CHIK-YUET

MRS. NELLIE FONG

MR. TONG KAM-BIU

MR. SAMUEL P. W. WONG

ABSENT

DR. KIM Y. S. CHAM, J.P.

106359-4L-10/83

PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY THE GOVERNMENT PRINTER, HONG KONG

$17.50-G430783

THE SECRETARY, URBAN COUNCIL, MR. R. SPENCER, J.P.

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