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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN:- Mr. Chairman, I also understand, correct me if I am wrong, that apart from the land being required for Government use, there are other conditions under which people are resettled. Take for example, dangerous buildings, tenants of buildings declared dangerous, or huts built on land not required for Government use, but tenants living in danger because of rain and typhoons. Mr. Chairman, in this case, since the area is so unhygienic, can this question be referred to the Resettlement Policy Committee so that it can be considered for early resettlement as a modification of the policy?

CHAIRMAN:- I am sure the Commissioner for Resettlement will be prepared to consider any proposal in his Policy Select Committee.

(2) MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:-

Can the Commissioner for Resettlement advise how many community centres there are in Resettlement Estates? Can the Commissioner inquire from Government whether there are plans to provide community centres to serve each Resettlement Estate, since it has been shown that the community centre provides a wide variety of useful activities and welfare, cultural and other services for the residents in Resettlement Estates?

THE DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE replied as follows:-

Mr. Chairman, although the question is asked of the Commissioner for Resettlement, it is perhaps a little more in my own sphere and if Mr. Hilton CHEONG-LEEN agrees, I will reply to it. (Mr. CHEONG-LEEN indicated his agreement). I have taken it that, in referring to the community centres, he is referring to those rather large specialist buildings which are like an adaptation of 24 classroom primary schools.

There are three existing specialist community centres in resettlement estates, namely, Wong Tai Sin, Kwun Tong and Tai Hang Tung. A fourth one is being planned in Chai Wan Resettlement Estate, and is expected to be completed in about two years' time. As with other community centres elsewhere, they are provided to serve all the people of the district concerned and not just the residents of a particular estate. Group and community services are provided in other buildings also, and these services are being developed on a regional or district basis independently of the construction of these specialist centres.

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MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- When will work commence on the Chai Wan Community Centre, Mr. Chairman?

DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE:- Sorry, Sir, can't answer. What I have said is as much as I know.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- And after Chai Wan, is any consideration being given to or are there any plans for another large community centre in any other estate?

DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE: No, Sir, there are not at the present time. As I said in the reply, the existence of the large buildings does not necessarily reflect the existence of community services. In some of the older estates which again haven't got these centres, such services are provided in either ground floor accommodation or on roof tops, and in the newer estates where there isn't that same ground floor or roof top accommodation, estate welfare buildings are being provided which are rather smaller, but more useful buildings which are easier to staff and manage and it is the policy, I believe, that the Estate Welfare buildings will be provided in all resettlement areas.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- And providing virtually the same kind of services which are being provided in these large community centres?

DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE:- Similar.

MR. SALES:- Mr. Chairman, are the Elected Members allowing the Director of Social Welfare to retire "not out". (Laughter).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: These are useful questions, Mr. Chairman.

(3) MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:

Can the Chairman advise what are Government's views in regard to the recommendations of the City Hall Select Committee that a civic centre for Kowloon be built in Whitfield Barracks? If no reply has yet been received from Government, can steps be taken to request Government to give favourable consideration to this recommendation?

THE CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, replied as follows:-

The views of the Government on the recommendation made by this Council regarding the construction of a Civic Centre are that a project of this proposed magnitude and importance, will, as a first step, require to be cleared as a matter of policy before it can get into the Public Works

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Page 131 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR. PETER C. K. CHAN:- Mr. Chairman, I also understand, correct me if I am wrong, that apart from the land being required for Government use, there are other conditions under which people are resettled. Take for example, dangerous buildings, tenants of buildings declared dangerous, or huts built on land not required for Government use, but tenants living in danger because of rain and typhoons. Mr. Chairman, in this case, since the area is so unhygienic, can this question be referred to the Resettlement Policy Committee so that it can be considered for early resettlement as a modification of the policy? CHAIRMAN:- I am sure the Commissioner for Resettlement will be prepared to consider any proposal in his Policy Select Committee. (2) MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:- Can the Commissioner for Resettlement advise how many community centres there are in Resettlement Estates? Can the Commissioner inquire from Government whether there are plans to provide community centres to serve each Resettlement Estate, since it has been shown that the community centre provides a wide variety of useful activities and welfare, cultural and other services for the residents in Resettlement Estates? THE DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE replied as follows:- Mr. Chairman, although the question is asked of the Commissioner for Resettlement, it is perhaps a little more in my own sphere and if Mr. Hilton CHEONG-LEEN agrees, I will reply to it. (Mr. CHEONG-LEEN indicated his agreement). I have taken it that, in referring to the community centres, he is referring to those rather large specialist buildings which are like an adaptation of 24 classroom primary schools. There are three existing specialist community centres in resettlement estates, namely, Wong Tai Sin, Kwun Tong and Tai Hang Tung. A fourth one is being planned in Chai Wan Resettlement Estate, and is expected to be completed in about two years' time. As with other community centres elsewhere, they are provided to serve all the people of the district concerned and not just the residents of a particular estate. Group and community services are provided in other buildings also, and these services are being developed on a regional or district basis independently of the construction of these specialist centres. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 9 MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- When will work commence on the Chai Wan Community Centre, Mr. Chairman? DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE:- Sorry, Sir, can't answer. What I have said is as much as I know. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- And after Chai Wan, is any consideration being given to or are there any plans for another large community centre in any other estate? DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE: No, Sir, there are not at the present time. As I said in the reply, the existence of the large buildings does not necessarily reflect the existence of community services. In some of the older estates which again haven't got these centres, such services are provided in either ground floor accommodation or on roof tops, and in the newer estates where there isn't that same ground floor or roof top accommodation, estate welfare buildings are being provided which are rather smaller, but more useful buildings which are easier to staff and manage and it is the policy, I believe, that the Estate Welfare buildings will be provided in all resettlement areas. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- And providing virtually the same kind of services which are being provided in these large community centres? DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE:- Similar. MR. SALES:- Mr. Chairman, are the Elected Members allowing the Director of Social Welfare to retire "not out". (Laughter). MR. CHEONG-LEEN: These are useful questions, Mr. Chairman. (3) MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question: Can the Chairman advise what are Government's views in regard to the recommendations of the City Hall Select Committee that a civic centre for Kowloon be built in Whitfield Barracks? If no reply has yet been received from Government, can steps be taken to request Government to give favourable consideration to this recommendation? THE CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, replied as follows:- The views of the Government on the recommendation made by this Council regarding the construction of a Civic Centre are that a project of this proposed magnitude and importance, will, as a first step, require to be cleared as a matter of policy before it can get into the Public Works Page 13 of 241 8 Page 131

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Page-131 Page 13 of 241 8 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR. PETER C. K. CHAN:-Mr. Chairman, I also understand, correct me if I am wrong, that apart from the land being required for Govern- ment use, there are other conditions under which people are resettled. Take for example, dangerous buildings, tenants of buildings declared dangerous, or huts built on land not required for Government use, but tenants living in danger because of rain and typhoons. Mr. Chairman, in this case, since the area is so unhygienic, can this question be referred to the Resettlement Policy Committee so that it can be considered for early resettlement as a modification of the policy? CHAIRMAN:-I am sure the Commissioner for Resettlement will be prepared to consider any proposal in his Policy Select Committee. (2) MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:- Can the Commissioner for Resettlement advise how many community centres there are in Resettlement Estates? Can the Commissioner inquire from Government whether there are plans to provide community centres to serve each Resettlement Estate, since it has been shown that the community centre provides a wide variety of useful activities and welfare, cultural and other services for the residents in Resettlement Estates? THE DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE replied as follows:- Mr. Chairman, although the question is asked of the Com- missioner for Resettlement, it is perhaps a little more in my own sphere and if Mr. Hilton CHEONG-LEEN agrees, I will reply to it. (Mr. CHEONG-LEEN indicated his agree- ment). I have taken it that, in referring to the com- munity centres, he is referring to those rather large specialist buildings which are like an adaptation of 24 classroom primary schools. There are three existing specialist community centres in re- settlement estates, namely, Wong Tai Sin, Kwun Tong and Tai Hang Tung. A fourth one is being planned in Chai Wan Resettlement Estate, and is expected to be completed in about two years' time. As with other com- munity centres elsewhere, they are provided to serve all the people of the district concerned and not just the residents of a particular estate. Group and community services are provided in other buildings also, and these services are being developed on a regional or district basis independently of the construction of these specialist centres. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 9 MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-When will work commence on the Chai Wan Community Centre, Mr. Chairman? DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE:-Sorry, Sir, can't answer. have said is as much as I know. What I MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-And after Chai Wan, is any consideration being given to or are there any plans for another large community centre in any other estate? DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE: No, Sir, there are not at the present time. As I said in the reply, the existence of the large buildings does not necessarily reflect the existence of community services. In some of the older estates which again haven't got these centres, such services are provided in either ground floor accommodation or on roof tops, and in the newer estates where there isn't that same ground floor or roof top accommodation, estate welfare buildings are being pro- vided which are rather smaller, but more useful buildings which are easier to staff and manage and it is the policy, I believe, that the Estate Welfare buildings will be provided in all resettlement areas. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-And providing virtually the same kind of services which are being provided in these large community centres? DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE:-Similar. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, are the Elected Members allowing the Director of Social Welfare to retire "not out". (Laughter). MR. CHEONG-LEEN: These are useful questions, Mr. Chairman. (3) MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question: Can the Chairman advise what are Government's views in regard to the recommendations of the City Hall Select Committee that a civic centre for Kowloon be built in Whitfield Barracks? If no reply has yet been received from Government, can steps be taken to request Govern- ment to give favourable consideration to this recom- mendation? THE CHAIRMAN, URBAN COUNCIL, replied as follows:- The views of the Government on the recommendation made by this Council regarding the construction of a Civic Centre are that a project of this proposed magnitude and importance, will, as a first step, require to be cleared as a matter of policy before it can get into the Public Works

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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

MR. PETER C. K. CHAN:-Mr. Chairman, I also understand, correct me if I am wrong, that apart from the land being required for Govern- ment use, there are other conditions under which people are resettled. Take for example, dangerous buildings, tenants of buildings declared dangerous, or huts built on land not required for Government use, but tenants living in danger because of rain and typhoons. Mr. Chairman, in this case, since the area is so unhygienic, can this question be referred to the Resettlement Policy Committee so that it can be considered for early resettlement as a modification of the policy?

CHAIRMAN:-I am sure the Commissioner for Resettlement will be prepared to consider any proposal in his Policy Select Committee.

(2) MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:-

THE DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE replied as follows:-

Mr. Chairman, although the question is asked of the Com- missioner for Resettlement, it is perhaps a little more in my own sphere and if Mr. Hilton CHEONG-LEEN agrees, I will reply to it. (Mr. CHEONG-LEEN indicated his agree- ment). I have taken it that, in referring to the com- munity centres, he is referring to those rather large specialist buildings which are like an adaptation of 24 classroom primary schools.

There are three existing specialist community centres in re- settlement estates, namely, Wong Tai Sin, Kwun Tong and Tai Hang Tung. A fourth one is being planned in Chai Wan Resettlement Estate, and is expected to be completed in about two years' time. As with other com- munity centres elsewhere, they are provided to serve all the people of the district concerned and not just the residents of a particular estate. Group and community services are provided in other buildings also, and these services are being developed on a regional or district basis independently of the construction of these specialist

centres.

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-When will work commence on the Chai Wan Community Centre, Mr. Chairman?

DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE:-Sorry, Sir, can't answer. have said is as much as I know.

What I

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-And after Chai Wan, is any consideration being given to or are there any plans for another large community centre in any other estate?

DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE: No, Sir, there are not at the present time. As I said in the reply, the existence of the large buildings does not necessarily reflect the existence of community services. In some of the older estates which again haven't got these centres, such services are provided in either ground floor accommodation or on roof tops, and in the newer estates where there isn't that same ground floor or roof top accommodation, estate welfare buildings are being pro- vided which are rather smaller, but more useful buildings which are easier to staff and manage and it is the policy, I believe, that the Estate Welfare buildings will be provided in all resettlement areas.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-And providing virtually the same kind of services which are being provided in these large community centres?

DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WELFARE:-Similar.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, are the Elected Members allowing the Director of Social Welfare to retire "not out". (Laughter).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: These are useful questions, Mr. Chairman.

(3) MR. HILTON CHEONG-LEEN asked the following question:

Can the Chairman advise what are Government's views in regard to the recommendations of the City Hall Select Committee that a civic centre for Kowloon be built in Whitfield Barracks? If no reply has yet been received from Government, can steps be taken to request Govern- ment to give favourable consideration to this recom- mendation?

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