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the Government must implement. If the Government doesn't implement then it is because the Government is procrastinating and unable to reach a decision. So, Mr. Chairman, because His Excellency the Governor has made a statement to this effect only a few days ago, and a statement of a positive nature, giving an indication of the trend of thought in the Government over the implementation of parts of our report, I suggest that, in all fairness, we should give time to the Government for them to make an announcement of what their intentions are in concrete terms. Now, if there is another delay on the part of the Government in making such an announcement, then by all means let the Council go forward under full sail. I cannot conceive that His Excellency the Governor, in a message which amounts to the "state of the union" message, the state of Hong Kong message, would make an indication of policy without intention of fulfilling that policy in the immediate future, and I would think that it would be only courteous and correct for us to assume that that is so. Secondly, this Council is meeting Mr. Anthony ROYLE in a few days' time, and it is the intention of the Council, and let notice be served upon Mr. ROYLE, that we do not intend to talk to him, we intend to listen to him to tell us what he proposes to do, having heard Members of the Urban Council on a few occasions in the past. And so, because of these two cogent, and I might suggest, with diffidence, compelling reasons, I would like to ask my colleagues to postpone consideration of this Motion in the original text, and let Mr. CHEONG-LEEN bring it forward again if in short time he is not satisfied with either the progress that has been made, or the opinion of Mr. Anthony ROYLE. This is a Motion under Standing Order 10(17)(b) and after it has been seconded, Sir, it must be put and I regret without discussion.
MR. BLAKER:- Mr. Chairman, I rise to second Mr. SALES' Motion that Mr. CHEONG-LEEN'S original Motion should be postponed for further consideration. I am in sympathy with Mr. CHEONG-LEEN'S original Motion. I believe that there should be an evolution in local Government. I believe that the dangers inherent in evolution are less than the dangers that are involved in standing still. To take up the point made by Mr. Lo and Mrs. SYMONS, I am myself not wholly in favour of each detail in the 1969 proposal, but I subscribe to the general principle and, therefore, I am in sympathy with Mr. CHEONG-LEEN'S Motion as it stands, but I prefer, accepting Mr. SALES' view of the Government's comments in Legislative Council, that the Motion should be postponed for consideration later.
MR. CHEONG-LEEN:- Mr. Chairman, I am prepared to accept the suggestion, or the Motion which has been put forward by Mr. SALES, on the understanding that I would be able to put forward this Motion again for re-consideration at a meeting of the Urban Council, which I shall, of course, do after consultation with my other elected Members.
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MR. HU:- Mr. Chairman, may I speak a few words? I think since Mr. CHEONG-LEEN already supports Mr. SALES' Motion, I support too. (Laughter). But I am fully sympathetic to the two new Members for their feeling. I would suggest that about this report, probably Mr. CHEONG-LEEN in future will propose a Motion to seek the views of these two new Members. (Laughter).
CHAIRMAN:- Ladies and gentlemen, as I think you are all aware, I am eager to see some progress in the development of this Council, and while I have some sympathy with the original Motion I would not be able to support it, because, as you know, I and my Official colleagues abstained when the report was originally adopted. I would be able to support the proposed amendment, as it merely proposes what I have been doing all along. However, I now defer to your wishes, and the proposal now rests in this matter--to have consideration of the motion deferred to a later date.
The question to defer under Standing Order 10(17)(b) was put.
The motion was carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT - 6.18 P.M.
CHAIRMAN: --- That concludes the business of this meeting. Council stands adjourned until the 3rd November, 1970 at 2.30 p.m.
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the Government must implement. If the Government doesn't implement then it is because the Government is procastinating and unable to reach a decision. So, Mr. Chairman, because His Excellency the Governor has made a statement to this effect only a few days ago, and a statement of a positive nature, giving an indication of the trend of thought in the Government over the implementation of parts of our report, I suggest that, in all fairness, we should give time to the Government for them to make an announcement of what their intentions are in concrete terms. Now, if there is another delay on the part of the Government in making such an announcement, then by all means let the Council go forward under full sail. I cannot conceive that His Excellency the Governor, in a message which amounts to the "state of the union" message, the state of Hong Kong message, would make an indication of policy without intention of fulfilling that policy in the immediate future, and I would think that it would be only courteous and correct for us to assume that that is so. Secondly, this Council is meeting Mr. Anthony ROYLE in a few days' time, and it is the intention of the Council, and let notice be served upon Mr. ROYLE, that we do not intend to talk to him, we intend to listen to him to tell us what he proposes to do, having heard Members of the Urban Council on a few occasions in the past. And so, because of these two cogent, and I might suggest, with diffidence, compelling reasons, I would like to ask my colleagues to postpone consideration of this Motion in the original text, and let Mr. CHEONG-LEEN bring it forward again if in short time he is not satisfied with either the progress that has been made, or the opinion of Mr. Anthony ROYLE. This is a Motion under Standing Order 10(17)(b) and after it has been seconded, Sir, it must be put and I regret without discussion.
MR. BLAKER:-Mr. Chairman, I rise to second Mr. SALES' Motion that Mr. CHEONG-LEEN'S original Motion should be postponed for further consideration. I am in sympathy with Mr. CHEONG-LEEN'S original Motion. I believe that there should be an evolution in local Government. I believe that the dangers inherent in evolution are less than the dangers that are involved in standing still. To take up the point made by Mr. Lo and Mrs. SYMONS, I am myself not wholly in favour of each detail in the 1969 proposal, but I subscribe to the general principle and, therefore, I am in sympathy with Mr. CHEONG-LEEN'S Motion as it stands, but I prefer, accepting Mr. SALES' view of the Government's comments in Legislative Council, that the Motion should be postponed for consideration later.
MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, I am prepared to accept the suggestion, or the Motion which has been put forward by Mr. SALES, on the understanding that I would be able to put forward this Motion again for re-consideration at a meeting of the Urban Council, which I shall, of course, do after consultation with my other elected Members.
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MR. HU:-Mr. Chairman, may I speak a few words? I think since Mr. CHEONG-LEEN already supports Mr. SALES' Motion, I support too. (Laughter). But I am fully sympathetic to the two new Members for their feeling. I would suggest that about this report, probably Mr. CHEONG-LEEN in future will propose a Motion to seek the views of these two new Members. (Laughter).
CHAIRMAN:-Ladies and gentlemen, as I think you are all aware,
I am eager to see some progress in the development of this Council, and while I have some sympathy with the original Motion I would not be able to support it, because, as you know, I and my Official colleagues abstained when the report was originally adopted. I would be able to support the proposed amendment, as it merely proposes what I have been doing all along. However, I now defer to your wishes, and the proposal now rests in this matter--to have consideration of the motion deferred to a later date.
The question to defer under Standing Order 10(17)(b) was put.
The motion was carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT · -6.18 P.M.
CHAIRMAN: ---That concludes the business of this meeting. Council stands adjourned until the 3rd November, 1970 at 2.30 p.m.
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