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MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Also, Mr. Chairman, since it is possible that some of these small rooms may not be accepted by any tenant, could the Management Committee look into other possible uses for them?

MR. HU:-I think there is no need to worry about allocation of small rooms. Probably if we want outsiders to occupy them, they will be taken up very quickly. Certainly we will look into it, if nobody takes these rooms.

(5) MRS. E. ELLIOTT asked the following question:-

The decantation density in Wang Tau Hom Estate is the lowest in all the older estates, being almost 24 square feet. Yet many tenants are living at less than 17 square feet per adult because there are no empty rooms in the particular block in which they live. They are not allowed to apply for rooms in other blocks unless they have been rejected by the tenants of that block. This means that they never get the choice of a good room. Can the Department suggest anything to avoid this discrimination against tenants in blocks where there are no empty rooms? If not, could the matter be discussed in the Management Select Committee soon?

MR. HENRY H. L. HU, CHAIRMAN OF THE RESETTLEMENT MANAGEMENT SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:--

Mr. Chairman, as agreed by the Resettlement Management Select Committee at its meeting on 14th January, the qualifying density for internal transfer in Wang Tau Hom Estate is 23.9 square feet. At the end of August, there were only 8 families living at a density less than 17 square feet per adult person. 2,433 families were at between 17 and 24 square feet, while the remaining 8,613 families were at 24 square feet or more. Thus the majority of families in Wang Tau Hom Estate are living at a density of more than 24 square feet per adult person.

At present, applicants for more space in Wang Tau Hom Estate are confined to those in the same block because only a small number of rooms fall vacant each month, and these are usually taken up by families occupying adjacent rooms who have first priority.

A short paper on the position in Wang Tau Hom will shortly be submitted for discussion by the Resettlement Management Select Committee.

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I would like to close by thanking Mrs. ELLIOTT for her interest in Resettlement matters which is reflected in this question and the four previous questions.

MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank the Chairman for this interesting information, but it doesn't really solve the problem of those families in Wang Tau Hom who find no flat vacant in their own block, but they do find one vacant in another block. Anyhow, this is going before the Resettlement Management Select Committee could this be done-this says shortly-may I ask how long shortly is going to be?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, as soon as possible. I hope at the next meeting or the meeting after the next. Certainly not later than next after.

MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, may I in turn thank Mr. Hu for his very interesting answers to my questions.

MR. HU:-I think, Mr. Chairman, I have answered all the questions, but I should congratulate Mrs. ELLIOTT-her questions are much better than my answers. (Laughter).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Is that the only reason why Mrs. ELLIOTT said the answers were interesting? She did not say they were satisfactory.

(6) DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG asked the following question:-

As the situation of water supply has been much improved, would the Chairman inform this Council when will fresh water supply at our beaches be available to the public for bathing purpose after swimming?

MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:

Sir, the question of fresh water for bathing after swimming takes two forms a supply to bathing sheds and the provision of public showers at beaches.

On the question of supplies to bathing sheds, Dr. HUANG will recall that this matter was raised in the Council as recently as July by Mr. Raymond KAN when the Director of Public Works stated that it was now possible to consider applications for metered water connections to beach sheds, and explained the requirements to be met in this connection.

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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Also, Mr. Chairman, since it is possible that some of these small rooms may not be accepted by any tenant, could the Management Committee look into other possible uses for them? MR. HU:-I think there is no need to worry about allocation of small rooms. Probably if we want outsiders to occupy them, they will be taken up very quickly. Certainly we will look into it, if nobody takes these rooms. (5) MRS. E. ELLIOTT asked the following question:- The decantation density in Wang Tau Hom Estate is the lowest in all the older estates, being almost 24 square feet. Yet many tenants are living at less than 17 square feet per adult because there are no empty rooms in the particular block in which they live. They are not allowed to apply for rooms in other blocks unless they have been rejected by the tenants of that block. This means that they never get the choice of a good room. Can the Department suggest anything to avoid this discrimination against tenants in blocks where there are no empty rooms? If not, could the matter be discussed in the Management Select Committee soon? MR. HENRY H. L. HU, CHAIRMAN OF THE RESETTLEMENT MANAGEMENT SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-- Mr. Chairman, as agreed by the Resettlement Management Select Committee at its meeting on 14th January, the qualifying density for internal transfer in Wang Tau Hom Estate is 23.9 square feet. At the end of August, there were only 8 families living at a density less than 17 square feet per adult person. 2,433 families were at between 17 and 24 square feet, while the remaining 8,613 families were at 24 square feet or more. Thus the majority of families in Wang Tau Hom Estate are living at a density of more than 24 square feet per adult person. At present, applicants for more space in Wang Tau Hom Estate are confined to those in the same block because only a small number of rooms fall vacant each month, and these are usually taken up by families occupying adjacent rooms who have first priority. A short paper on the position in Wang Tau Hom will shortly be submitted for discussion by the Resettlement Management Select Committee. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL I would like to close by thanking Mrs. ELLIOTT for her interest in Resettlement matters which is reflected in this question and the four previous questions. MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank the Chairman for this interesting information, but it doesn't really solve the problem of those families in Wang Tau Hom who find no flat vacant in their own block, but they do find one vacant in another block. Anyhow, this is going before the Resettlement Management Select Committee could this be done-this says shortly-may I ask how long shortly is going to be? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, as soon as possible. I hope at the next meeting or the meeting after the next. Certainly not later than next after. MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, may I in turn thank Mr. Hu for his very interesting answers to my questions. MR. HU:-I think, Mr. Chairman, I have answered all the questions, but I should congratulate Mrs. ELLIOTT-her questions are much better than my answers. (Laughter). MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Is that the only reason why Mrs. ELLIOTT said the answers were interesting? She did not say they were satisfactory. (6) DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG asked the following question:- As the situation of water supply has been much improved, would the Chairman inform this Council when will fresh water supply at our beaches be available to the public for bathing purpose after swimming? MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows: Sir, the question of fresh water for bathing after swimming takes two forms a supply to bathing sheds and the provision of public showers at beaches. On the question of supplies to bathing sheds, Dr. HUANG will recall that this matter was raised in the Council as recently as July by Mr. Raymond KAN when the Director of Public Works stated that it was now possible to consider applications for metered water connections to beach sheds, and explained the requirements to be met in this connection. Page 110 of 241 200 201 Page 111

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T 241 Page 110 of 241 200 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Also, Mr. Chairman, since it is possible that some of these small rooms may not be accepted by any tenant, could the Management Committee look into other possible uses for them? MR. HU-I think there is no need to worry about allocation of small rooms. Probably if we want outsiders to occupy them, they will be taken up very quickly. Certainly we will look into it, if nobody takes these rooms. (5) MRS. E. ELLIOTT asked the following question:- The decantation density in Wang Tau Hom Estate is the lowest in all the older estates, being almost 24 square feet. Yet many tenants are living at less than 17 square feet per adult because there are no empty rooms in the particular block in which they live. They are not allowed to apply for rooms in other blocks unless they have been rejected by the tenants of that block. This means that they never get the choice of a good room. Can the Department sug- gest anything to avoid this discrimination against tenants in blocks where there are no empty rooms? If not, could the matter be discussed in the Management Select Com- mittee soon? MR. HENRY H. L. HU, CHAIRMAN OF THE RESETTLEMENT MANAGE- MENT SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-- Mr. Chairman, as agreed by the Resettlement Management Select Committee at its meeting on 14th January, the qualifying density for internal transfer in Wang Tau Hom Estate is 23.9 square feet. At the end of August, there were only 8 families living at a density less than 17 square feet per adult person. 2,433 families were at be- tween 17 and 24 square feet, while the remaining 8,613 families were at 24 square feet or more. Thus the majority of families in Wang Tau Hom Estate are living at a density of more than 24 square feet per adult person. At present, applicants for more space in Wang Tau Hom Estate are confined to those in the same block because only a small number of rooms fall vacant each month, and these are usually taken up by families occupying adjacent rooms who have first priority. A short paper on the position in Wang Tau Hom will shortly be submitted for discussion by the Resettlement Manage- ment Select Committee. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 201 I would like to close by thanking Mrs. ELLIOTT for her interest in Resettlement matters which is reflected in this question and the four previous questions. MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank the Chair- man for this interesting information, but it doesn't really solve the problem of those families in Wang Tau Hom who find no flat vacant in their own block, but they do find one vacant in another block. Any- how, this is going before the Resettlement Management Select Com- mittee could this be done-this says shortly-may I ask how long shortly is going to be? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, as soon as possible. I hope at the next meeting or the meeting after the next. Certainly not later than next after. MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, may I in turn thank Mr. Hu for his very interesting answers to my questions. MR. HU-I think, Mr. Chairman, I have answered all the ques- tions, but I should congratulate Mrs. ELLIOTT-her questions are much better than my answers. (Laughter). MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Is that the only reason why Mrs. ELLIOTT said the answers were interesting? She did not say they were satis- factory. (6) DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG asked the following question:- As the situation of water supply has been much improved, would the Chairman inform this Council when will fresh water supply at our beaches be available to the public for bathing purpose after swimming? MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows: Sir, the question of fresh water for bathing after swimming takes two forms a supply to bathing sheds and the pro- vision of public showers at beaches. On the question of supplies to bathing sheds, Dr. HUANG will recall that this matter was raised in the Council as recently as July by Mr. Raymond KAN when the Director of Public Works stated that it was now possible to consider applica- tions for metered water connections to beach sheds, and explained the requirements to be met in this connection. Page 110Page 111

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MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Also, Mr. Chairman, since it is possible that some of these small rooms may not be accepted by any tenant, could the Management Committee look into other possible uses for them?

MR. HU-I think there is no need to worry about allocation of small rooms. Probably if we want outsiders to occupy them, they will be taken up very quickly. Certainly we will look into it, if nobody takes these rooms.

(5) MRS. E. ELLIOTT asked the following question:-

The decantation density in Wang Tau Hom Estate is the lowest in all the older estates, being almost 24 square feet. Yet many tenants are living at less than 17 square feet per adult because there are no empty rooms in the particular block in which they live. They are not allowed to apply for rooms in other blocks unless they have been rejected by the tenants of that block. This means that they never get the choice of a good room. Can the Department sug- gest anything to avoid this discrimination against tenants in blocks where there are no empty rooms? If not, could the matter be discussed in the Management Select Com- mittee soon?

MR. HENRY H. L. HU, CHAIRMAN OF THE RESETTLEMENT MANAGE- MENT SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:--

Mr. Chairman, as agreed by the Resettlement Management Select Committee at its meeting on 14th January, the qualifying density for internal transfer in Wang Tau Hom Estate is 23.9 square feet. At the end of August, there were only 8 families living at a density less than 17 square feet per adult person. 2,433 families were at be- tween 17 and 24 square feet, while the remaining 8,613 families were at 24 square feet or more. Thus the majority of families in Wang Tau Hom Estate are living at a density of more than 24 square feet per adult person.

A short paper on the position in Wang Tau Hom will shortly be submitted for discussion by the Resettlement Manage- ment Select Committee.

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I would like to close by thanking Mrs. ELLIOTT for her interest in Resettlement matters which is reflected in this question and the four previous questions.

MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, I would like to thank the Chair- man for this interesting information, but it doesn't really solve the problem of those families in Wang Tau Hom who find no flat vacant in their own block, but they do find one vacant in another block. Any- how, this is going before the Resettlement Management Select Com- mittee could this be done-this says shortly-may I ask how long shortly is going to be?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-Mr. Chairman, as soon as possible. I hope at the next meeting or the meeting after the next. Certainly not later than next after.

MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, may I in turn thank Mr. Hu for his very interesting answers to my questions.

MR. HU-I think, Mr. Chairman, I have answered all the ques- tions, but I should congratulate Mrs. ELLIOTT-her questions are much better than my answers. (Laughter).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Is that the only reason why Mrs. ELLIOTT said the answers were interesting? She did not say they were satis- factory.

(6) DR. DENNY M. H. HUANG asked the following question:-

MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE RECREATION AND AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:

Sir, the question of fresh water for bathing after swimming takes two forms a supply to bathing sheds and the pro- vision of public showers at beaches.

On the question of supplies to bathing sheds, Dr. HUANG will recall that this matter was raised in the Council as recently as July by Mr. Raymond KAN when the Director of Public Works stated that it was now possible to consider applica- tions for metered water connections to beach sheds, and explained the requirements to be met in this connection.

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