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There are 4 other workshops in the building situated in flats on the 2nd, 4th, 6th and 7th floors. These are all very small concerns employing a few workers only and not of a nature which causes any nuisance. They are recorded but not yet registered by the Labour Department.

No complaints concerning any of these factories have previously been received by the Urban Services Department though I understand that 2 complaints have been made to the Labour Department concerning the plastics factory on the ground floor. These are being investigated by factory inspectors.

4. At a survey conducted by the Health Staff on 27th April no actual sanitary or industrial nuisances were found to have arisen from these factories, although sanitary nuisances such as defective waste and soil pipes, yard obstruction, etc. were discovered in other parts of the building during the survey and dealt with separately.

5. When statutory nuisances, sanitary or otherwise, come to the notice of the District Health Staff as a result of routine house inspection or of investigation of complaints, appropriate action will be taken, where necessary, under the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960, or by reference to the Labour Department, if factories are concerned.

DR. BELL: Mr. Chairman, a supplementary question. Where certain premises really breach the occupation permit, is there any remedy for this sort of thing, because in the majority of cases they are causing a public nuisance, and it is not at all pleasant to invest one's life time savings, shall we say, in a part of a block of buildings which might be used for other purposes.

CHAIRMAN: Sir, I have taken note of your question, but I cannot answer it. The original question concerns factories at certain specified premises.

(4) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question:

Will the Chairman advise this Council

(a) whether the training courses organized by the Urban Services Department for employees of restaurants and food factories are still being continued;

(b) and if so, whether or not cooks and other food handlers generally are encouraged to attend them?

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THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied as follows:

The answer to both parts of the question is "yes".

These courses were started in April, 1963 and to date 64 courses have been conducted; these have been attended by a total of 1,467 persons from 954 food handling establishments.

Although these courses were primarily devised to teach the principles and practice of food hygiene to the supervisory staff in charge of food premises so that they could in turn train their own men, cooks, waiters and other food handlers are also generally encouraged to attend the courses and many have done so.

MR. LI: Mr. Chairman, as Director of the Urban Services Department, do you instruct your staff to encourage cooked food stall holders to attend these courses, which I believe would be very useful to them?

CHAIRMAN: Thank you for the suggestion, Sir. I will think about that.

DR. BELL: Mr. Chairman, may I ask a supplementary question on this? You quoted the figures of 1,467 and 954 food handling establishments. What percentage is that of the total number of food handling establishments, and what percentage of the number of persons working in them?

CHAIRMAN: I am sorry, Dr. BELL, it is a good question, but we do not carry information like that in our heads.

DR. BELL: Mr. Chairman, may I make a remark please? I think that information should be carried in your heads. I think it is misleading the public if you give figures of this sort without showing the proportion who have not attended, because this looks very good on paper, but I think that when it is put as a percentage it will be a very small percentage.

CHAIRMAN: I have taken note of that Dr. BELL, and I think you have some logic on your side. I will look into the matter.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: Mr. Chairman, are there any booklets which are released to the people attending courses, and which they could keep for permanent reference?

CHAIRMAN: Mr. CHEONG-LEEN, would you repeat the question please, I did not quite get the last part.

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Page 44 of 279 66 2x+ 3. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL There are 4 other workshops in the building situated in flats on the 2nd, 4th, 6th and 7th floors. These are all very small concerns employing a few workers only and not of a nature which causes any nuisance. They are recorded but not yet registered by the Labour Department. No complaints concerning any of these factories have previously been received by the Urban Services Department though I understand that 2 complaints have been made to the Labour Department concerning the plastics factory on the ground floor. These are being investigated by factory inspectors. 4. At a survey conducted by the Health Staff on 27th April no actual sanitary or industrial nuisances were found to have arisen from these factories, although sanitary nuisances such as defective waste and soil pipes, yard obstruction, etc. were discovered in other parts of the building during the survey and dealt with separately. 5. When statutory nuisances, sanitary or otherwise, come to the notice of the District Health Staff as a result of routine house inspection or of investigation of complaints, appropriate action will be taken, where necessary, under the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960, or by reference to the Labour Department, if factories are concerned. DR. BELL: Mr. Chairman, a supplementary question. Where certain premises really breach the occupation permit, is there any remedy for this sort of thing, because in the majority of cases they are causing a public nuisance, and it is not at all pleasant to invest one's life time savings, shall we say, in a part of a block of buildings which might be used for other purposes. CHAIRMAN: Sir, I have taken note of your question, but I cannot answer it. The original question concerns factories at certain specified premises. (4) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question: Will the Chairman advise this Council (a) whether the training courses organized by the Urban Services Department for employees of restaurants and food factories are still being continued; (b) and if so, whether or not cooks and other food handlers generally are encouraged to attend them? HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 67 THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied as follows: The answer to both parts of the question is "yes". These courses were started in April, 1963 and to date 64 courses have been conducted; these have been attended by a total of 1,467 persons from 954 food handling establishments. Although these courses were primarily devised to teach the principles and practice of food hygiene to the supervisory staff in charge of food premises so that they could in turn train their own men, cooks, waiters and other food handlers are also generally encouraged to attend the courses and many have done so. MR. LI: Mr. Chairman, as Director of the Urban Services Department, do you instruct your staff to encourage cooked food stall holders to attend these courses, which I believe would be very useful to them? CHAIRMAN: Thank you for the suggestion, Sir. I will think about that. DR. BELL: Mr. Chairman, may I ask a supplementary question on this? You quoted the figures of 1,467 and 954 food handling establishments. What percentage is that of the total number of food handling establishments, and what percentage of the number of persons working in them? CHAIRMAN: I am sorry, Dr. BELL, it is a good question, but we do not carry information like that in our heads. DR. BELL: Mr. Chairman, may I make a remark please? I think that information should be carried in your heads. I think it is misleading the public if you give figures of this sort without showing the proportion who have not attended, because this looks very good on paper, but I think that when it is put as a percentage it will be a very small percentage. CHAIRMAN: I have taken note of that Dr. BELL, and I think you have some logic on your side. I will look into the matter. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: Mr. Chairman, are there any booklets which are released to the people attending courses, and which they could keep for permanent reference? CHAIRMAN: Mr. CHEONG-LEEN, would you repeat the question please, I did not quite get the last part. Page 45 of 279
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There are 4 other workshops in the building situated in flats on the 2nd, 4th, 6th and 7th floors. These are all very small concerns employing a few workers only and not of a nature which causes any nuisance. They are recorded but not yet registered by the Labour Department.

No complaints concerning any of these factories have previously been received by the Urban Services Depart- ment though I understand that 2 complaints have been made to the Labour Department concerning the plastics factory on the ground floor. These are being investigated by factory inspectors.

4. At a survey conducted by the Health Staff on 27th April no actual sanitary or industrial nuisances were found to have arisen from these factories, although sanitary nui- sances such as defective waste and soil pipes, yard obstruction, etc. were discovered in other parts of the building during the survey and dealt with separately.

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When statutory nuisances, sanitary or otherwise, come to the notice of the District Health Staff as a result of routine house inspection or of investigation of complaints, appropriate action will be taken, where necessary, under the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960, or by reference to the Labour Department, if factories are concerned.

DR. LEB: Mr. Chairman, a supplementary question. Where certain premises really breach the occupation permit, is there any remedy for this sort of thing, because in the majority of cases they are causing a public nuisance, and it is not at all pleasant to invest one's life time savings, shall we say, in a part of a block of buildings which might be used for other purposes.

CHAIRMAN:-Sir, I have taken note of your question, but I cannot answer it. The original question concerns factories at certain specified premises.

(4) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question:

Will the Chairman advise this Council

(a) whether the training courses organized by the Urban Services Department for employees of restaurants and food factories are still being continued;

(b) and if so, whether or not cooks and other food

handlers generally are encouraged to attend them?

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

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THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied

as follows:

The answer to both parts of the question is "yes".

These courses were started in April, 1963 and to date 64 courses have been conducted; these have been attended by a total of 1,467 persons from 954 food handling establishments.

Although these courses were primarily devised to teach the principles and practice of food hygiene to the supervisory staff in charge of food premises so that they could in turn train their own men, cooks, waiters and other food handlers are also generally encouraged to attend the courses and many have done so.

MR. LI:-Mr. Chairman, as Director of the Urban Services Depart- ment, do you instruct your staff to encourage cooked food stall holders to attend these courses, which I believe would be very useful to them?

CHAIRMAN: ---Thank you for the suggestion, Sir. I will think about

that.

DR. BELL:-1

-Mr. Chairman, may I ask a supplementary question on this? You quoted the figures of 1,467 and 954 food handling establishments. What percentage is that of the total number of food handling establishments, and what percentage of the number of persons working in them?

CHAIRMAN: ---I am sorry, Dr. BELL, it is a good question, but we do not carry information like that in our heads.

DR. BELL: Mr. Chairman, may I make a remark please? I think that information should be carried in your heads. I think it is mis- leading the public if you give figures of this sort without showing the proportion who have not attended, because this looks very good on paper, but I think that when it is put as a percentage it will be a very small percentage.

CHAIRMAN: I have taken note of that Dr. BELL, and I think you have some logic on your side. I will look into the matter.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, are there any booklets which are released to the people attending courses, and which they could keep for permanent reference?

CHAIRMAN: --Mr. CHEONG-LEEN, would you repeat the question please, I did not quite get the last part.

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