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be responsible, because it came out in a supplementary question that nobody was really responsible for many of these chimneys. Nobody was responsible for setting the height of the chimney, the type of chimney that must be built, or anything else.

Deputy Director of Medical and Health Services:- I am not quite sure what Dr. Bell means by responsibility for the chimneys. The chimneys are covered by the Building Construction Regulations, 1956, which lay down how high the chimney must be above the building.

Dr. Bell- But this was in regard to maintenance. In regard to surrounding buildings and so on which have developed to a very much greater height now, compared to some of the older buildings, the chimney may be correct according to the regulations, and yet be blowing into the windows of some of these new buildings. Nobody seems to know, and I would ask again, Mr. Chairman, if you could please arrange to have some sort of review, or refer the matter to some Select Committee which you consider appropriate, or the Committee of the Whole Council.

Chairman:- Yes, Dr. Bell, I will look into this matter.

Dr. Lee:- Coming back to my own question, Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask a supplementary, and that is, what about the conditions of the chimneys at these premises? Could you refer this to the relevant Select Committees- chimneys of restaurants to the Food and Food Premises Select Committee, chimneys of the laundries to the Laundries Select Committee, or to the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee.

Mr. Sales: No such committee as Laundries Select Committee!

Dr. Lee:- (continued) I wonder if this might be referred to the relevant select committees in regard to the use of gaseous fuel, or smokeless fuel as a condition for granting a licence to these premises, because we have so many complaints from the public. I understand there are only one or two complaints, received by the Department, but there are many more than that in the wards I can assure you.

Chairman:- Yes, Sir, your remarks are noted. We will take appropriate action. Will you ask question two? (Laughter).

(2) Dr. R. H. S. Lee asked the following question:-

Is the Chairman aware that an Urban Services Department employee whose number I have already given has demanded tea money in the course of his inspection tour

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on 13th April, 1966 from a firm at 402 Cheong Kee Building, 84 Des Voeux Road, Central? Will he take the strongest measure possible in putting a stop to this sort of racket?

The Chairman replied as follows:-

I referred the information which you supplied to me to the Police and they have conducted an investigation. The complainant and a witness were given an opportunity at a formal identification parade to identify the Urban Services Department employee whose departmental number you gave me and who was included in the parade. They were not able to do so. In the circumstances, no further action seems possible.

Dr. Lee:- I can understand your reply, Mr. Chairman, but as a supplementary I would ask is there any substance in the widespread allegation that certain members of the Inspectorate have a habit of demanding tea money from licensees at certain times of the year, especially just before their renewal period?

Chairman:- Sir, I could rule that question out of order, because it contains an imputation against the whole of the Health Inspectorate. Answering directly what you asked, I am not aware of such action by them.

Dr. Lee:- I shall utilize my privilege in producing these cases to you, so it will be in order.

(3) Dr. R. H. S. Lee asked the following question:

Is the Chairman aware of unlicensed factories at Baily Mansion, 8, Ngan Hon Street, Tokwawan? What steps will be taken by the Department to remedy sanitary and industrial nuisances which occur to the intense annoyance of the domestic dwellers?

The Deputy Director of Medical and Health Services replied as follows:-

This building is an eight storey tenement block extending from No. 2 to No. 10 Ngan Hon Street. The ground floor is occupied by a primary school, a small shop and a plastics factory; the latter, which is provisionally registered by the Labour Department, has 12 employees and 5 mixing machines giving rise to some noise and a smell of hot plastic.

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ال 279 Page 43 of 279..... Page 43 of 279 64 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL be responsible, because it came out in a supplementary question that nobody was really responsible for many of these chimneys. Nobody was responsible for setting the height of the chimney, the type of chimney that must be built, or anything else. Deputy Director of MediCAL AND HEALTH SERVICES:-I am not quite sure what Dr. BELL means by responsibility for the chimneys. The chimneys are covered by the Building Construction Regulations, 1956, which lay down how high the chimney must be above the building. DR. BELL-But this was in regard to maintenance. In regard to surrounding buildings and so on which have developed to a very much greater height now, compared to some of the older buildings, the chimney may be correct according to the regulations, and yet be blowing into the windows of some of these new buildings. Nobody seems to know, and I would ask again, Mr. Chairman, if you could please arrange to have some sort of review, or refer the matter to some Select Com- mittee which you consider appropriate, or the Committee of the Whole Council. CHAIRMAN: -Yes, Dr. BELL, I will look into this matter. DR. LEE:-Coming back to my own question, Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask a supplementary, and that is, what about the con- ditions of the chimneys at these premises? Could you refer this to the relevant Select Committees-chimneys of restaurants to the Food and Food Premises Select Committee, chimneys of the laundries to the Laundries Select Committee, or to the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee. MR. SALES: No such committee as Laundries Select Committee! DR. LEE:-(continued) I wonder if this might be referred to the relevant select committees in regard to the use of gaseous fuel, or smokeless fuel as a condition for granting a licence to these premises, because we have so many complaints from the public. I understand there are only one or two complaints, received by the Department, but there are many more than that in the wards I can assure you. CHAIRMAN: -Yes, Sir, your remarks are noted. We will take appropriate action. Will you ask question two? (Laughter). (2) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question :- Is the Chairman aware that an Urban Services Department employee whose number I have already given has demanded tea money in the course of his inspection tour HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 65 on 13th April, 1966 from a firm at 402 Cheong Kee Building, 84 Des Voeux Road, Central? Will he take the strongest measure possible in putting a stop to this sort of racket? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:- I referred the information which you supplied to me to the Police and they have conducted an investigation. The complainant and a witness were given an opportunity at a formal identification parade to identify the Urban Services Department employee whose departmental num- ber you gave me and who was included in the parade. They were not able to do so. In the circumstances, no further action seems possible. DR. LEE:-I can understand your reply, Mr. Chairman, but as a supplementary I would ask is there any substance in the widespread allegation that certain members of the Inspectorate have a habit of demanding tea money from licensees at certain times of the year, especially just before their renewal period? CHAIRMAN:-Sir, I could rule that question out of order, because it contains an imputation against the whole of the Health Inspectorate. Answering directly what you asked, I am not aware of such action by them. DR. LEE:-I shall utilize my privilege in producing these cases to you, so it will be in order. (3) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:· Is the Chairman aware of unlicensed factories at Baily Mansion, 8, Ngan Hon Street, Tokwawan? What steps will be taken by the Department to remedy sanitary and industrial nuisances which occur to the intense annoyance of the domestic dwellers? THE DEPUTY Director of MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied as follows:- This building is an eight storey tenement block extending from No. 2 to No. 10 Ngan Hon Street. The ground floor is occupied by a primary school, a small shop and a plastics factory; the latter, which is provisionally registered by the Labour Department, has 12 employees and 5 mixing machines giving rise to some noise and a smell of hot plastic.
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be responsible, because it came out in a supplementary question that nobody was really responsible for many of these chimneys. Nobody was responsible for setting the height of the chimney, the type of chimney that must be built, or anything else.

Deputy Director of MediCAL AND HEALTH SERVICES:-I am not quite sure what Dr. BELL means by responsibility for the chimneys. The chimneys are covered by the Building Construction Regulations, 1956, which lay down how high the chimney must be above the building.

DR. BELL-But this was in regard to maintenance. In regard to surrounding buildings and so on which have developed to a very much greater height now, compared to some of the older buildings, the chimney may be correct according to the regulations, and yet be blowing into the windows of some of these new buildings. Nobody seems to know, and I would ask again, Mr. Chairman, if you could please arrange to have some sort of review, or refer the matter to some Select Com- mittee which you consider appropriate, or the Committee of the Whole Council.

CHAIRMAN: -Yes, Dr. BELL, I will look into this matter.

DR. LEE:-Coming back to my own question, Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask a supplementary, and that is, what about the con- ditions of the chimneys at these premises? Could you refer this to the relevant Select Committees-chimneys of restaurants to the Food and Food Premises Select Committee, chimneys of the laundries to the Laundries Select Committee, or to the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee.

MR. SALES: No such committee as Laundries Select Committee!

DR. LEE:-(continued) I wonder if this might be referred to the relevant select committees in regard to the use of gaseous fuel, or smokeless fuel as a condition for granting a licence to these premises, because we have so many complaints from the public. I understand there are only one or two complaints, received by the Department, but there are many more than that in the wards I can assure you.

CHAIRMAN: -Yes, Sir, your remarks are noted. We will take appropriate action. Will you ask question two? (Laughter).

(2) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question :-

Is the Chairman aware that an Urban Services Department employee whose number I have already given has demanded tea money in the course of his inspection tour

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on 13th April, 1966 from a firm at 402 Cheong Kee Building, 84 Des Voeux Road, Central? Will he take the strongest measure possible in putting a stop to this sort of racket?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:-

I referred the information which you supplied to me to the Police and they have conducted an investigation. The complainant and a witness were given an opportunity at a formal identification parade to identify the Urban Services Department employee whose departmental num- ber you gave me and who was included in the parade. They were not able to do so. In the circumstances, no further action seems possible.

DR. LEE:-I can understand your reply, Mr. Chairman, but as a supplementary I would ask is there any substance in the widespread allegation that certain members of the Inspectorate have a habit of demanding tea money from licensees at certain times of the year, especially just before their renewal period?

CHAIRMAN:-Sir, I could rule that question out of order, because it contains an imputation against the whole of the Health Inspectorate. Answering directly what you asked, I am not aware of such action by them.

DR. LEE:-I shall utilize my privilege in producing these cases to you, so it will be in order.

(3) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:·

Is the Chairman aware of unlicensed factories at Baily Mansion, 8, Ngan Hon Street, Tokwawan? What steps will be taken by the Department to remedy sanitary and industrial nuisances which occur to the intense annoyance of the domestic dwellers?

THE DEPUTY Director of MEDICAL AND HEALTH SERVICES replied as follows:-

This building is an eight storey tenement block extending from No. 2 to No. 10 Ngan Hon Street. The ground floor is occupied by a primary school, a small shop and a plastics factory; the latter, which is provisionally registered by the Labour Department, has 12 employees and 5 mixing machines giving rise to some noise and a smell of hot plastic.

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