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of the Whole Council, the question of whether these persons, against whom there are allegations of corruption as serious as these were, should not be dismissed from the force, and that investigations should be carried out by the department into this, aside from the Police investigations.

CHAIRMAN: -You have already heard that the matter will be raised at the next meeting of the Hawkers Select Committee.

MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, may I just ask if you can tell me if Sergeant No. 53 actually made the report himself to the Anti-Corrup- tion Branch, a sort of confession?

CHAIRMAN:-I cannot give you that information.

MR. BERNACCHI:-Speaking from memory, I think it was brought out in the evidence in court that that was so, and that the statement made to the Anti-Corruption Branch was put in evidence against him. His statement implicated himself and other members, other sergeants I think.

MRS. ELLIOTT:-Mr. Chairman, does that not discourage Hawker Control Force personnel from admitting that they are wrong?

CHAIRMAN:-I have nothing further to say on this.

MR. SALES: Sir, as I believe the Chairman of the Hawkers Select Committee is also the Chairman of the Reform Club, is the attitude of the two lady members who are also members of the Reform Club, not a unilateral declaration of independence on their part? (Laughter).

MR. BERNACCHI:-If I may make a personal statement, every member of the Reform Club is a very individually minded person. (Laughter).

DR. BELL:-May I plead, in clarification of my question, the question was directly concerning the Council and its activities, and was not in any way concerning the Reform Club. The fact that the Chair- man is the same person in each case, does not preclude his answering a Council question.

MR. SALES: Sir, may I say I endorse wholeheartedly what Dr. BELL has just said.

MOTIONS.

(1) MR. CHEUNG WING-IN, Chairman of the Cemeteries, Crematoria and Funeral Parlours Select Committee, moved the following motion:-

RESOLVED under By-law 10(1) of the Public Cemeteries By- laws, 1960, that the Director of Urban Services be em-

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powered to exhume and remove the human remains of persons from the graves specified in the following public cemeteries and to dispose of the same by burial, cremation or otherwise as the Director may think fit.

Cemetery

(1) Wo Hop Shek Ceme- tery, Fanling, New Territories.

(2) Sandy Ridge Ceme- tery, Lo Wu, New Territories.

(3) Sandy Ridge (Urn) Cemetery, Lo Wu, New Territories.

(4) Prison Cemetery,

Stanley.

Section

All graves in Sections A and B and in-

(a) Section T

Year of Burial

1959

cluding those in

private lots.

1959

(b) Roman Catholic Private Lot

1959

(c) Little Sisters of

the Poor Private Lot.

1959

All graves

the Government Urn Section.

in

1963

All graves in the coffin

section.

1959

He said: Mr. Chairman, as Chairman of the Cemeteries, Crema- toria and Funeral Parlours Select Committee, I rise to move the motion standing in my name.

The purpose of the motion is to empower the Director of Urban Services to carry out a routine exhumation programme for 1965/66 in order to provide space for future burials in the cemeteries concerned. If the motion is passed, notice of the intended exhumation will be published in the usual way in the Government Gazette and in the Chinese press, so that any person who wishes to arrange for private exhumation, may do so.

I beg to move.

MR. LOBO:-Mr. Chairman, Mr. CHEUNG Wing-in put it very ably when he moved this motion, and leaves me only to say I support it and I beg to second it.

MR. BERNACCHI:-Mr. Chairman, for perhaps the elucidation of members of the public who read of this motion in the press, could the proposer in his summing up explain the meaning of "in sections and including those in private lots". Namely, is there any difference between private lots and non-private lots, and what is the

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