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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: — No, I don't think at this stage I can possibly give any hard and fast time limit in which they could be resettled. It depends very much on the availability of buildings and the immediate claims of other priorities.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - But, Mr. Chairman, as the Commissioner states in his last sentence of paragraph 4, the people who will go into future licensed areas will in all likelihood be given resettlement after at least two years - is that correct?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: - They will eventually get resettlement, but as regards the period which they may have to wait, I wouldn't go further than I have already gone in the last sentence of my answer.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - In other words, Mr. Chairman, it is only those people who are able to provide cash in advance, or who are financially better off, who will be given priority in resettlement?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: - I think the operative words are able and willing.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - Mr. Chairman, they are quite often willing, but not always able. (Laughter).

Mr. Chairman, would the Commissioner agree that from a practical point of view, many of the people who really need resettlement are those who have not been given it, as mentioned by Mrs. ELLIOTT?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: - This, Mr. Chairman, calls on me to express an opinion which I am not allowed to do by Standing Orders.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - Mr. Chairman, would the Commissioner agree that these people are always willing but not always able?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: — No, I would not agree.

MR. SALES: Would it not be easier for the Council if Mr. CHEONG-LEEN would only read the Working Party's report and then put his supplementary question? (Laughter).

MRS. ELLIOTT: - Mr. Chairman, may I ask that this matter, together with Mr. SALES' suggestion, be referred to the Policy Committee?

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - Mr. SALES and I can read it together if he wishes.

MR. SALES: — I was a member of the Working Party.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - He has probably forgotten most of it.

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(4) MR. CHEUNG WING-IN asked the following question :-

According to several local newspapers, land-slides were last month threatening the new Tsz Wan Shan Estate and that an uncompleted block was partially buried and access to the other blocks were obstructed. What steps, if any, have been taken to guard against such land-slides?

THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS replied as follows:-

Following the very heavy rains between September 26th and September 30th, when over 20 inches were recorded at the Royal Observatory, a major landslide occurred along part of the northern boundary of the Tse Wan Shan Resettlement Estate and damaged one of the blocks now under construction. Further landslides occurred on 5th October and 7th October.

2. Every reasonable precaution had been taken in the design and formation of the cutting slopes. No slope was steeper than 60 degrees, and the majority were cut back to 45 degrees. Berms, or horizontal drainage channels, were constructed at 30 ft. vertical intervals and a large cut-off channel was constructed along the top of the bank. The landslide was undoubtedly due to the heavy rainfall, but it is not at present clear why the landslide occurred in spite of the precautions which had been taken. It seems probable that the heavy rain soaked into the ground well above the top of the cutting slope, forming underground stream courses which discharged into the cutting face. Soil samples have been taken for testing purposes, and investigations are being carried out with a view to, first, preventing the formation of underground streams and, second, the stabilizing of any weak sections of the cutting slopes.

4. The nearest occupied block is about 100 ft. away from the landslide. Inspection of the slopes behind the occupied blocks show no signs of danger or symptoms of potential collapse.

(5) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:—

What progress has been made in floodlighting sports facilities in heavily populated areas so that they may be adequately used by residents after work?

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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: — No, I don't think at this stage I can possibly give any hard and fast time limit in which they could be resettled. It depends very much on the availability of buildings and the immediate claims of other priorities. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - But, Mr. Chairman, as the Commissioner states in his last sentence of paragraph 4, the people who will go into future licensed areas will in all likelihood be given resettlement after at least two years - is that correct? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: - They will eventually get resettlement, but as regards the period which they may have to wait, I wouldn't go further than I have already gone in the last sentence of my answer. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - In other words, Mr. Chairman, it is only those people who are able to provide cash in advance, or who are financially better off, who will be given priority in resettlement? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: - I think the operative words are able and willing. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - Mr. Chairman, they are quite often willing, but not always able. (Laughter). Mr. Chairman, would the Commissioner agree that from a practical point of view, many of the people who really need resettlement are those who have not been given it, as mentioned by Mrs. ELLIOTT? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: - This, Mr. Chairman, calls on me to express an opinion which I am not allowed to do by Standing Orders. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - Mr. Chairman, would the Commissioner agree that these people are always willing but not always able? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: — No, I would not agree. MR. SALES: Would it not be easier for the Council if Mr. CHEONG-LEEN would only read the Working Party's report and then put his supplementary question? (Laughter). MRS. ELLIOTT: - Mr. Chairman, may I ask that this matter, together with Mr. SALES' suggestion, be referred to the Policy Committee? MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - Mr. SALES and I can read it together if he wishes. MR. SALES: — I was a member of the Working Party. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: - He has probably forgotten most of it. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL (4) MR. CHEUNG WING-IN asked the following question :- According to several local newspapers, land-slides were last month threatening the new Tsz Wan Shan Estate and that an uncompleted block was partially buried and access to the other blocks were obstructed. What steps, if any, have been taken to guard against such land-slides? THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS replied as follows:- Following the very heavy rains between September 26th and September 30th, when over 20 inches were recorded at the Royal Observatory, a major landslide occurred along part of the northern boundary of the Tse Wan Shan Resettlement Estate and damaged one of the blocks now under construction. Further landslides occurred on 5th October and 7th October. 2. Every reasonable precaution had been taken in the design and formation of the cutting slopes. No slope was steeper than 60 degrees, and the majority were cut back to 45 degrees. Berms, or horizontal drainage channels, were constructed at 30 ft. vertical intervals and a large cut-off channel was constructed along the top of the bank. The landslide was undoubtedly due to the heavy rainfall, but it is not at present clear why the landslide occurred in spite of the precautions which had been taken. It seems probable that the heavy rain soaked into the ground well above the top of the cutting slope, forming underground stream courses which discharged into the cutting face. Soil samples have been taken for testing purposes, and investigations are being carried out with a view to, first, preventing the formation of underground streams and, second, the stabilizing of any weak sections of the cutting slopes. 3. 4. The nearest occupied block is about 100 ft. away from the landslide. Inspection of the slopes behind the occupied blocks show no signs of danger or symptoms of potential collapse. (5) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:— What progress has been made in floodlighting sports facilities in heavily populated areas so that they may be adequately used by residents after work? Page 180 of 382 338 Page 180 Page 181 $2

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82 Page 180 of 382 338 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT: — No, I don't think at this stage I can possibly give any hard and fast time limit in which they could be resettled. It depends very much on the availability of buildings and the immediate claims of other priorities. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-But, Mr. Chairman, as the Commissioner states in his last sentence of paragraph 4, the people who will go into future licensed areas will in all likelihood be given resettlement after at least two years-is that correct? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-They will eventually get resettlement, but as regards the period which they may have to wait, I wouldn't go further than I have already gone in the last sentence of my answer. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-In other words, Mr. Chairman, it is only those people who are able to provide cash in advance, or who are financially better off, who will be given priority in resettlement? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-I think the operative words are able and willing. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, they are quite often willing, but not always able. (Laughter). Mr. Chairman, would the Commissioner agree that from a practical point of view, many of the people who really need resettlement are those who have not been given it, as mentioned by Mrs. ELLIOTT? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-This, Mr. Chairman, calls me to express an opinion which I am not allowed to do by Standing Orders. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, would the Commissioner agree that these people are always willing but not always able? COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:—No, I would not agree. www.www. MR. SALES: Would it not be easier for the Council if Mr. CHEONG-LEEN would only read the Working Party's report and then put his supplementary question? (Laughter). MRS. ELLIOTT:--Mr. Chairman, may I ask that this matter, to- gether with Mr. SALES suggestion, be referred to the Policy Committee? MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. SALES and I can read it together if he wishes. MR. SALES:—I was a member of the Working Party. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-He has probably forgotten most of it. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 339 (4) MR. CHEUNG WING-IN asked the following question :- According to several local newspapers, land-slides were last month threatening the new Tsz Wan Shan Estate and that an uncompleted block was partially buried and access to the other blocks were obstructed. What steps, if any, have been taken to guard against such land-slides? THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS replied as follows:- Following the very heavy rains between September 26th and September 30th, when over 20 inches were recorded at the Royal Observatory, a major landslide occurred along part of the northern boundary of the Tse Wan Shan Resettlement Estate and damaged one of the blocks now under construction. Further landslides occurred on 5th October and 7th October. 2. Every reasonable precaution had been taken in the design and formation of the cutting slopes. No slope was steeper than 60 degrees, and the majority were cut back to 45 degrees. Berms, or horizontal drainage channels, were constructed at 30 ft. vertical intervals and a large cut-off The channel was constructed along the top of the bank. landslide was undoubtedly due to the heavy rainfall, but it is not at present clear why the landslide occurred in spite of the precautions which had been taken. It seems probable that the heavy rain soaked into the ground well above the top of the cutting slope, forming underground stream courses which discharged into the cutting face. Soil samples have been taken for testing purposes, and investigations are being carried out with a view to, first, preventing the formation of underground streams and, second, the stabilizing of any weak sections of the cutting slopes. 3. 4. The nearest occupied block is about 100 ft. away from the landslide. Inspection of the slopes behind the oc- cupied blocks show no signs of danger or symptoms of potential collapse. (5) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:— What progress has been made in floodlighting sports facilities in heavily populated areas so that they may be adequately used by residents after work? Page 180Page 181 $2

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MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-But, Mr. Chairman, as the Commissioner states in his last sentence of paragraph 4, the people who will go into future licensed areas will in all likelihood be given resettlement after at least two years-is that correct?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-They will eventually get resettlement, but as regards the period which they may have to wait, I wouldn't go further than I have already gone in the last sentence of my answer.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-In other words, Mr. Chairman, it is only those people who are able to provide cash in advance, or who are financially better off, who will be given priority in resettlement?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-I think the operative words are able and willing.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, they are quite often willing, but not always able. (Laughter).

Mr. Chairman, would the Commissioner agree that from a practical point of view, many of the people who really need resettlement are those who have not been given it, as mentioned by Mrs. ELLIOTT?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:-This, Mr. Chairman, calls me to express an opinion which I am not allowed to do by Standing Orders.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. Chairman, would the Commissioner agree that these people are always willing but not always able?

COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT:—No, I would not agree.

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MR. SALES: Would it not be easier for the Council if Mr. CHEONG-LEEN would only read the Working Party's report and then put his supplementary question? (Laughter).

MRS. ELLIOTT:--Mr. Chairman, may I ask that this matter, to- gether with Mr. SALES suggestion, be referred to the Policy Committee?

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Mr. SALES and I can read it together if he wishes.

MR. SALES:—I was a member of the Working Party.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-He has probably forgotten most of it.

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(4) MR. CHEUNG WING-IN asked the following question :-

THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS replied as follows:-

2. Every reasonable precaution had been taken in the design and formation of the cutting slopes. No slope was steeper than 60 degrees, and the majority were cut back to 45 degrees. Berms, or horizontal drainage channels, were constructed at 30 ft. vertical intervals and a large cut-off The channel was constructed along the top of the bank. landslide was undoubtedly due to the heavy rainfall, but it is not at present clear why the landslide occurred in spite of the precautions which had been taken. It seems probable that the heavy rain soaked into the ground well above the top of the cutting slope, forming underground stream courses which discharged into the cutting face. Soil samples have been taken for testing purposes, and investigations are being carried out with a view to, first, preventing the formation of underground streams and, second, the stabilizing of any weak sections of the cutting slopes.

4. The nearest occupied block is about 100 ft. away from the landslide. Inspection of the slopes behind the oc- cupied blocks show no signs of danger or symptoms of potential collapse.

(5) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:—

What progress has been made in floodlighting sports facilities in heavily populated areas so that they may be adequately used by residents after work?

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