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ing is not very good and I perspired the whole time when I was delivering my speech (Laughter).

MR. SALES: -Will Dr. LEE please clarify whether he perspired as much as the people who were listening to him? (Laughter)

DR. LEE: -I can further add there was no smoking by anybody in the room and I assure you that the perspiration was not only seen on myself but on other members who participated in the exhibition.

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CHAIRMAN: -I think your reference must be to the Industrial Sites Co-ordination Committee, which is an inter-departmental committee to which the views of this Council on the clearance of certain undertakings in Kowloon were referred. I have not seen papers on this matter for some time, but if you would like I will look them up for you and let you know what has happened.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Thank you.

(2) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question:-

I have received a complaint that the illegal iron foundries and saw-mills on the side of Sycamore Street opposite a secondary school with more than 1,000 pupils make so much noise every day that they seriously affect the work of the school. Will the Chairman inform this Council when these structures will be resettled or removed?

THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT replied as follows:-

As Members are aware, clearance of Tai Kok Tsui generally, both on account of health and fire hazards, has been the concern of this Council for some time, and much has been done to improve conditions in the area in recent years. In 1963 the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee recommended that the area should be cleared. Subsequently, visits were made by Members of this Council, together with representatives of the Police, the Resettlement, Public Works and Urban Services Departments. Following this, it was decided that in order to reduce health risks, domestic occupants should be cleared. As the industrial undertakings did not merit top priority for allocation of resettlement flatted factory space, which was fully committed to other more urgent clearances, the only practicable policy was to continue gradual reduction of this very congested area as and when it became necessary to clear the sites for public purposes.

The area in question is earmarked for a secondary school and a market, but no development proposals have yet been formulated for these projects.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: Is there not some sort of working committee which was supposed to review the possibility of having industrial sites in the New Territories to which some of these workshops could be moved eventually. What has happened to that particular committee?

(3) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:

Can the Chairman inform this Council what urban sites are available for the development of oriental gardens to enhance its urban amenities as well as its tourist attraction, and what firm dates can he give to its likely realization?

MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE URBAN AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-

At its meeting on 23rd July the Urban Amenities Select Committee was informed that the department would be studying the requirements for traditional Chinese gardens with a view to making proposals. The department expects to be able to submit its preliminary proposals by November or December when the Select Committee will consider them. Until then, evidently, no information about specific sites or completion dates can be given.

DR. LEE: Mr. Chairman, in connexion with the development of oriental gardens in the Urban area, has Hoi Sim Yiu site been considered for potential development of an oriental garden?

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, I believe that the island in my time used to be known as Centipede Island-this was about 30 years ago. I believe it is very rocky in nature. Reclamations are already approaching the island, if not engulfing it altogether, and I think that it is used unofficially as a rest garden. I think that this suggestion which Dr. LEE has put should be very seriously considered by the Select Committee. In point of fact, anyone crossing the harbour by the North Point/Kowloon City Vehicular Ferry is able to see the great use to which that island is put by the people for recreational purposes, particularly as a rest garden, and I am grateful to Dr. LEE for having raised the point.

DR. LEE: -Is this area suitable for development of an oriental garden, Mr. Chairman?

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Page 133 of 382 244 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL ing is not very good and I perspired the whole time when I was delivering my speech (Laughter). MR. SALES: -Will Dr. LEE please clarify whether he perspired as much as the people who were listening to him? (Laughter) DR. LEE: -I can further add there was no smoking by anybody in the room and I assure you that the perspiration was not only seen on myself but on other members who participated in the exhibition. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 245 CHAIRMAN: -I think your reference must be to the Industrial Sites Co-ordination Committee, which is an inter-departmental committee to which the views of this Council on the clearance of certain undertakings in Kowloon were referred. I have not seen papers on this matter for some time, but if you would like I will look them up for you and let you know what has happened. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -Thank you. (2) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question:- I have received a complaint that the illegal iron foundries and saw-mills on the side of Sycamore Street opposite a secondary school with more than 1,000 pupils make so much noise every day that they seriously affect the work of the school. Will the Chairman inform this Council when these structures will be resettled or removed? THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT replied as follows:- As Members are aware, clearance of Tai Kok Tsui generally, both on account of health and fire hazards, has been the concern of this Council for some time, and much has been done to improve conditions in the area in recent years. In 1963 the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee recommended that the area should be cleared. Subsequently, visits were made by Members of this Council, together with representatives of the Police, the Resettlement, Public Works and Urban Services Departments. Following this, it was decided that in order to reduce health risks, domestic occupants should be cleared. As the industrial undertakings did not merit top priority for allocation of resettlement flatted factory space, which was fully committed to other more urgent clearances, the only practicable policy was to continue gradual reduction of this very congested area as and when it became necessary to clear the sites for public purposes. The area in question is earmarked for a secondary school and a market, but no development proposals have yet been formulated for these projects. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: Is there not some sort of working committee which was supposed to review the possibility of having industrial sites in the New Territories to which some of these workshops could be moved eventually. What has happened to that particular committee? (3) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question: Can the Chairman inform this Council what urban sites are available for the development of oriental gardens to enhance its urban amenities as well as its tourist attraction, and what firm dates can he give to its likely realization? MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE URBAN AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:- At its meeting on 23rd July the Urban Amenities Select Committee was informed that the department would be studying the requirements for traditional Chinese gardens with a view to making proposals. The department expects to be able to submit its preliminary proposals by November or December when the Select Committee will consider them. Until then, evidently, no information about specific sites or completion dates can be given. DR. LEE: Mr. Chairman, in connexion with the development of oriental gardens in the Urban area, has Hoi Sim Yiu site been considered for potential development of an oriental garden? MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, I believe that the island in my time used to be known as Centipede Island-this was about 30 years ago. I believe it is very rocky in nature. Reclamations are already approaching the island, if not engulfing it altogether, and I think that it is used unofficially as a rest garden. I think that this suggestion which Dr. LEE has put should be very seriously considered by the Select Committee. In point of fact, anyone crossing the harbour by the North Point/Kowloon City Vehicular Ferry is able to see the great use to which that island is put by the people for recreational purposes, particularly as a rest garden, and I am grateful to Dr. LEE for having raised the point. DR. LEE: -Is this area suitable for development of an oriental garden, Mr. Chairman? Page 133 of 382
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Page 133 of 382 244 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL ing is not very good and I perspired the whole time when I was deliver- ing my speech (Laughter). MR. SALES: -Will Dr. LEE please clarify whether he perspired as much as the people who were listening to him? (Laughter) DR. LEE:-I can further add there was no smoking by anybody in the room and I assure you that the perspiration was not only seen on myself but on other members who participated in the exhibition. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL 245 CHAIRMAN:-I think your reference must be to the Industrial Sites Co-ordination Committee, which is an inter-departmental com- mittee to which the views of this Council on the clearance of certain undertakings in Kowloon were referred. I have not seen papers on this matter for some time, but if you would like I will look them up for you and let you know what has happened. MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Thank you. (2) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question:- I have received a complaint that the illegal iron foundries and saw-mills on the side of Sycamore Street opposite a secondary school with more than 1,000 pupils make so much noise everyday that they seriously affect the work of the school. Will the Chairman inform this Council when these structures will be resettled or removed? THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT replied as follows:- As Members are aware, clearance of Tai Kok Tsui generally, both on account of health and fire hazards, has been the concern of this Council for some time, and much has been done to improve conditions in the area in recent years. In 1963 the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee recom- mended that the area should be cleared. Subsequently, visits were made by Members of this Council, together with representatives of the Police, the Resettlement, Public Works and Urban Services Departments. Following this, it was decided that in order to reduce health risks, domestic occupants should be cleared. As the industrial under- takings did not merit top priority for allocation of resettle- ment flatted factory space, which was fully committed to other more urgent clearances, the only practicable policy was to continue gradual reduction of this very congested area as and when it became necessary to clear the sites for public purposes. The area in question is earmarked for a secondary school and a market, but no development proposals have yet been formulated for these projects. MR. CHEONG-LEEN: Is there not some sort of working committee which was supposed to review the possibility of having industrial sites in the New Territories to which some of these workshops could be moved eventually. What has happened to that particular committee? (3) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question: Can the Chairman inform this Council what urban sites are available for the development of oriental gardens to enhance its urban amenities as well as its tourist attraction, and what firm dates can he give to its likely realization? MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE URBAN AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:- At its meeting on 23rd July the Urban Amenities Select Com- mittee was informed that the department would be studying the requirements for traditional Chinese gardens with a view to making proposals. The department expects to be able to submit its preliminary proposals by November or December when the Select Committee will consider them. Until then, evidently, no information about specific sites or completion dates can be given. DR. LEE: Mr. Chairman, in connexion with the development of oriental gardens in the Urban area, has Hoi Sim Yiu site been considered for potential development of an oriental garden? MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, I believe that the island in my time used to be known as Centipede Island-this was about 30 years ago. I believe it is very rocky in nature. Reclamations are already approach- ing the island, if not engulfing it altogether, and I think that it is used unofficially as a rest garden. I think that this suggestion which Dr. LEE has put should be very seriously considered by the Select Committee. In point of fact, anyone crossing the harbour by the North Point/ Kowloon City Vehicular Ferry is able to see the great use to which that island is put by the people for recreational purposes, particularly as a rest garden, and I am grateful to Dr. LEE for having raised the point. DR. LEE:-Is this area suitable for development of an oriental garden, Mr. Chairman?
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ing is not very good and I perspired the whole time when I was deliver- ing my speech (Laughter).

MR. SALES: -Will Dr. LEE please clarify whether he perspired as much as the people who were listening to him? (Laughter)

DR. LEE:-I can further add there was no smoking by anybody in the room and I assure you that the perspiration was not only seen on myself but on other members who participated in the exhibition.

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CHAIRMAN:-I think your reference must be to the Industrial Sites Co-ordination Committee, which is an inter-departmental com- mittee to which the views of this Council on the clearance of certain undertakings in Kowloon were referred. I have not seen papers on this matter for some time, but if you would like I will look them up for you and let you know what has happened.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Thank you.

(2) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question:-

I have received a complaint that the illegal iron foundries and saw-mills on the side of Sycamore Street opposite a secondary school with more than 1,000 pupils make so much noise everyday that they seriously affect the work of the school. Will the Chairman inform this Council when these structures will be resettled or removed?

THE COMMISSIONER FOR RESETTLEMENT replied as follows:-

As Members are aware, clearance of Tai Kok Tsui generally, both on account of health and fire hazards, has been the concern of this Council for some time, and much has been done to improve conditions in the area in recent years. In 1963 the Environmental Hygiene Select Committee recom- mended that the area should be cleared. Subsequently, visits were made by Members of this Council, together with representatives of the Police, the Resettlement, Public Works and Urban Services Departments. Following this, it was decided that in order to reduce health risks, domestic occupants should be cleared. As the industrial under- takings did not merit top priority for allocation of resettle- ment flatted factory space, which was fully committed to other more urgent clearances, the only practicable policy was to continue gradual reduction of this very congested area as and when it became necessary to clear the sites for public purposes.

The area in question is earmarked for a secondary school and a market, but no development proposals have yet been formulated for these projects.

MR. CHEONG-LEEN: Is there not some sort of working committee which was supposed to review the possibility of having industrial sites in the New Territories to which some of these workshops could be moved eventually. What has happened to that particular committee?

(3) DR. R. H. S. LEE asked the following question:

Can the Chairman inform this Council what urban sites are available for the development of oriental gardens to enhance its urban amenities as well as its tourist attraction, and what firm dates can he give to its likely realization?

MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE URBAN AMENITIES SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:-

At its meeting on 23rd July the Urban Amenities Select Com- mittee was informed that the department would be studying the requirements for traditional Chinese gardens with a view to making proposals. The department expects to be able to submit its preliminary proposals by November or December when the Select Committee will consider them. Until then, evidently, no information about specific sites or completion dates can be given.

DR. LEE: Mr. Chairman, in connexion with the development of oriental gardens in the Urban area, has Hoi Sim Yiu site been considered for potential development of an oriental garden?

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, I believe that the island in my time used to be known as Centipede Island-this was about 30 years ago. I believe it is very rocky in nature. Reclamations are already approach- ing the island, if not engulfing it altogether, and I think that it is used unofficially as a rest garden. I think that this suggestion which Dr. LEE has put should be very seriously considered by the Select Committee. In point of fact, anyone crossing the harbour by the North Point/ Kowloon City Vehicular Ferry is able to see the great use to which that island is put by the people for recreational purposes, particularly as a rest garden, and I am grateful to Dr. LEE for having raised the point.

DR. LEE:-Is this area suitable for development of an oriental garden, Mr. Chairman?

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