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ADDRESS BY CHAIRMAN.
Before taking the first item on to-day's agenda, I would like to welcome Mr. CHEONG-LEEN back from his trip abroad and also Mr. TINSON as he was attending his first meeting as Secretary of the Urban Council. (Applause)
MR. SALES: -May I say that the appointed members echo the welcome you have expressed to Mr. TINSON. We are particularly pleased that Mr. CHEONG-LEEN is back. The Council was not the same while he was away.
MR. CHEONG-LEEN: -All I can say is thank you Mr. Chairman and Mr. SALES.
MINUTES.
The Minutes of the meeting of the Council held on 3rd August, 1965 were confirmed.
PAPERS.
THE CHAIRMAN laid upon the table the following paper:
Report on the work of the Urban Council and Urban Services Department for the month of August 1965.
MR. BERNACCHI: -Going through the Hawker Control Force again in the Monthly Publicity Report I see that 319 summonses were taken out as against 327 charge cases for obstruction and other charge cases as well. Who decides whether there should be a summons taken out or a charge case which, presumably, involves the hawker being taken to the nearest police station?
CHAIRMAN: -Sir, I regret that I cannot give you the answer to that immediately, but I will find out for you and let you know as soon as possible.
QUESTIONS.
(1) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question:
Will the Chairman advise this Council whether the air-conditioning facilities at the City Hall Restaurant are adequate; and if not, what steps he will consider taking to improve the situation?
MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY HALL SELECT COMMITTEE, replied as follows:
Recent readings taken in the City Hall Restaurant confirm that the present temperatures largely follow the schedule originally drawn up when the City Hall was built, and
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are still adequate. But partitions recently erected by the caterer have interfered with the distribution of air. So alterations are now being carried out which should result in an improvement in the air distribution.
I am assured by my friend the Director of Public Works, that the capacity of the air-conditioning plant is adequate to cope with the load involved by these alterations.
MR. LI -May I ask a supplementary question. When were these readings taken?
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -They were taken on 21st July, 1965.
MR. LI -Thank you Mr. WRIGHT. I have no desire to question the correctness of the reply, especially as it comes from Mr. SALES, but I was at a dinner one night with some scouters and the party, I think, consisted of about 500 people and the temperature during the course of the dinner must have been at least 30° Centigrade or 86° Fahrenheit. What the humidity was, of course, I was unable to tell. Perhaps the heat was due to the presence of too many smokers or too many people who had excess steam to let off like ourselves (Laughter).
MR. SALES: Sir, may I in further elucidation of the reply given, suggest to my friend Mr. Li that the matter of excess smoking might be referred to the Chairman of the Health Education Select Committee who is in the midst of conducting an anti-smoking campaign which has my whole-hearted support. I am also able to suggest, Sir, on the strength of expert opinion that perhaps the City Hall compressors are not all being put to use at the same time. This is a matter to which you might wish to call the attention of the management of the City Hall. My expert source of information is entirely Unofficial and wholly Appointed (Laughter).
DR. Woo: -My Committee is conducting a campaign on anti-smoking in public places, cinemas and theatres and not in restaurants, etc., but I was at a lunch last Wednesday at the City Hall Restaurant at which I met Mr. CHEN, Assistant Manager. He and I agreed that there was absolutely no air conditioning in the Restaurant at all.
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: -It is quite clear that the partition was put up by the caterer without the knowledge of the Public Works Department in a way which has quite seriously affected the air-conditioning in part of the restaurant and alterations are being made to improve it.
DR. LEE: -Mr. Chairman, I opened an art exhibition on the floor a week ago, not in the restaurant but on the same low block, and I can echo Mr. Li Yiu-bor's complaint about the fact that the air-conditioning...
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HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL
ADDRESS BY CHAIRMAN.
Before taking the first item on to-day's agenda, I would like to welcome Mr. CHEONG-LEEN back from his trip abroad and also Mr. TINSON is was attending his first meeting as Secretary of the Urban Council. (Applause)
MR. SALES: -May I say that the appointed members echo the wel- come you have expressed to Mr. TINSON. We are particularly pleased that Mr. CHEONG-LEEN is back. The Council was not the same while he was away.
MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-All I can say is thank you Mr. Chairman and Mr. SALES.
MINUTES.
The Minutes of the meeting of the Council held on 3rd August, 1965 were confirmed.
PAPERS.
THE CHAIRMAN laid upon the table the following paper:
Report on the work of the Urban Council and Urban Services
Department for the month of August 1965.
MR. BERNACCHI:-Going through the Hawker Control Force again in the Monthly Publicity Report I see that 319 summonses were taken out as against 327 charge cases for obstruction and other charge cases as well. Who decides whether there should be a summons taken out or a charge case which, presumably, involves the hawker being taken to the nearest police station?
CHAIRMAN:-Sir, I regret that I cannot give you the answer to that immediately, but I will find out for you and let you know as soon as possible.
QUESTIONS.
(1) MR. LI YIU-BOR asked the following question:
Will the Chairman advise this Council whether the air- conditioning facilities at the City Hall Restaurant are adequate; and if not, what steps he will consider taking to improve the situation?
MR. A. de O. SALES, CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY HALL SELECT COM- MITTEE, replied as follows:
Recent readings taken in the City Hall Restaurant confirm that the present temperatures largely follow the schedule originally drawn up when the City Hall was built, and
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are still adequate. But partitions recently erected by the caterer have interfered with the distribution of air. So alterations are now being carried out which should result in an improvement in the air distribution.
I am assured by my friend the Director of Public Works, that the capacity of the air-conditioning plant is adequate to cope with the load involved by these alterations.
MR. LI-May I ask a supplementary question. When were these readings taken?
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-They were taken on 21st July, 1965.
MR. LI-Thank you Mr. WRIGHT. I have no desire to question the correctness of the reply, especially as it comes from Mr. SALES, but I was at a dinner one night with some scouters and the party, I think, consisted of about 500 people and the temperature during the course of the dinner must have been at least 30° Centigrade or 86° Fahrenheit. What the humidity was, of course, I was unable to tell. Perhaps the heat was due to the presence of too many smokers or too many people who had excess steam to let off like ourselves (Laughter).
MR. SALES: Sir, may I in further elucidation of the reply given, suggest to my friend Mr. Li that the matter of excess smoking might be referred to the Chairman of the Health Education Select Committee who is in the midst of conducting an anti-smoking campaign which has my whole-hearted support. I am also able to suggest, Sir, on the strength of expert opinion that perhaps the City Hall compressors are not all being put to use at the same time. This is a matter to which you might wish to call the attention of the management of the City Hall. My expert source of information is entirely Unofficial and wholly Appointed (Laughter).
DR. Woo:-My Committee is conducting a campaign on anti- smoking in public places, cinemas and theatres and not in restaurants, etc., but I was at a lunch last Wednesday at the City Hall Restaurant at which I met Mr. CHEN, Assistant Manager. He and I agreed that there was absolutely no air conditioning in the Restaurant at all.
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:—It is quite clear that the partition was put up by the caterer without the knowledge of the Public Works Department in a way which has quite seriously effected the air-condition- ing in part of the restaurant and alterations are being made to improve
it.
DR. LEE:Mr. Chairman, I opened an art exhibition on the floor a week ago, not in the restaurant but on the same low block, and I can echo Mr. Li Yiu-bor's complaint about the fact that the air-condition-
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