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CHAIRMAN:-The motion before the Council has been proposed by Dr. LEE and seconded by Mr. Li Yiu-bor.

The question was put.

The motion was carried.

(3) MR. FUNG HON-CHU, Chairman of the Food Premises Select Com- mittee, moved the following motion:-

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That the Frozen Confections (Amendment) By-laws 1965 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance 1960.

He said:-Sir, as Chairman of the Food and Food Premises Select Committee I rise to move the motion standing in my name, that the Frozen Confections (Amendment) By-laws 1965 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance 1960. The existing by-laws regarding heat treatment of frozen confections provide that either one of the two methods namely, the holder method or the high temperature short time method may be used, but the literal application of By-law 21(2)(c) which requires all apparatus to be thermostatically controlled and fitted with an automatic flow diversion valve is not only unnecessary but also physically impossible as far as the holder method is considered. The amendment was as proposed in the paper before Committee to decide to do away with these requirements for the holder method so that in future only the high temperature short term method will be subject to these particular requirements. Sir, I beg to move the motion.

MR. Lo:-Sir, I rise to second the motion moved by my colleague.

CHAIRMAN :-----The motion before the Council has been proposed by Mr. FUNG Hon-chu and seconded by Mr. K. S. Lo.

The question was put.

The motion was carried.

(4) Resumption of the debate on the following motion moved by Mr. H. CHEONG-LEEN at the meeting held on 4th May, 1965 :-

Resolved that the Legislative Council be urged to enact suitable legislation to provide for the Director of Education to be a member of the Urban Council.

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CHAIRMAN: ----The debate on Mr. CHEONG-LEEN's motion, which was postponed from the meeting of this Council on the 4th of May, will now be resumed. The motion before the Council is as follows:-"Resolved that the Legislative Council be urged to enact suitable legislation to provide for the Director of Education to be a member of the Urban Council."

Any Member who has not yet spoken in the debate may do so to-day. Members who have already spoken may not do so again, with the exception of the proposer, who has his right of reply, but he may not introduce new matter in his reply.

I have now to make the statement from Government which Members asked me to obtain at the meeting on 4th May.

In accordance with the wishes of the Council a copy of the record of the debate on the motion moved by Mr. Hilton CHEONG-LEEN at the May meeting concerning the proposed appointment of the Director of Education as a member of the Urban Council, was forwarded to the Colonial Secretary on 20th May. A reply has now been received stating that His Excellency the Governor has noted the proposal but regrets that he cannot agree to it because:·

(a) the oversight of education is not a function of this Council; and (b) he already has a body of advisers in this field, in the form of

the Board of Education.

Members are aware of the lengthy debate on the White Paper on Education which took place very recently in the Legislative Council, during which Government's position was made known.

Mr. WANG :-Thanks to the motion, we have gained an opportunity to hear various views and comments on Government policy on Educa- tion. However, I too must say that apart from this special interest, I am indeed most reluctant to support the motion as it stands for the same reason as you have stated that unless the function of the Council is extended, I cannot see in what way the Director of Education by his mere membership in this Council can contribute much to the working of the Council. I am not in principle, however, against the Director of Education becoming a member of the Council but I do say we shall be putting the cart before the horse if we adopt the motion as it stands. If members of the Council should think that it is in the interest of the public that the Council should have statutory power in part or in whole on matters concerning education in the Colony, and if the Council feels that it is capable of undertaking such a task then the proper thing is for members, first, to carry out an intensive study of the ways and means the Council can best serve in this field, and thereafter to put for- ward a recommendation to Government to that effect or to move a

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