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Kaifongs could be represented on this Council, perhaps by appointment. Has this point been recently considered by the Secretary for Chinese Affairs?

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-No, Sir.

MR. SALES:-Mr. Chairman, may I say that we the Appointed Members have already declared our intention to put up a candidate for an election at the right time. (Laughter). I declared at a public meeting in this room that the Appointed Members might consider putting up a worthwhile candidate at the time that they thought propitious. (Laughter).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Does Mr. SALES refer to the Legislative Council?

MR. SALES: I said the Urban Council. Mr. Chairman, may I also ask a supplementary question or two? Before I do so, I would like to assure our colleague the Secretary for Chinese Affairs, through you, Mr. Chairman, that the Appointed Members at least could not possibly have suspected him of any discourtesy in any release that might have been made to the Press. Having now made my peace with him, could I ask him, through you, Mr. Chairman, whether he did or did not inspire the Kowloon Kaifongs to eliminate any preference on the part of his subordinate for Kowloon as stated in his answer to my colleague Mr. BERNACCHI?

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-Sir, nothing has been inspired at all. It has been purely a matter of Kaifong Associations' own interests and wishes.

MR. SALES:-Mr. Chairman, does the Secretary for Chinese Affairs consider it a grievous heresy for any high Government official to have a particularly Kowloon point of view?

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-Not a grievous heresy, Sir. (Laughter).

MR. SALES:-Could he assure this Council that he would not discourage any of his subordinates from working in the interests of Kowloon? (Laughter).

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-Certainly, Sir.

MR. SALES:-Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

MOTIONS.

135

MR. FUNG HON-CHU, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:-

That the Milk (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960.

He said: The purpose of these by-laws is to amend the Milk By-laws, 1960 to allow the Urban Council to permit sales of sterilized milk, in sealed containers, in shops without milk shop permits.

It will be noted that exemption only applies to such brands of sterilized milk as the Council may approve, thus giving adequate opportunity to examine each individual application and to ensure that both the milk itself and the method of packing are such that no danger to health exists. Technically, there is no reason why sterilized milk should not be sold in shops without milk shop permits, since it has been treated in such a way as to destroy all bacteria and will therefore remain good without refrigeration for an indefinite time. Sterilized milk is sold in Great Britain and elsewhere in many general grocery shops.

I beg to move.

DR. P. F. Woo seconded.

The question was put.

The motion was carried.

MR. FUNG HON-CHU, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:-

That the Food Business (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960.

He said: These by-laws are complementary to the Milk (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 which I have just moved. The purpose of the Food Business (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 is to amend the Second Schedule of the main By-laws, so as to allow the sale of certain brands of sterilized milk without permits.

I beg to move.

DR. P. F. Woo seconded.

The question was put.

The motion was carried.

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Page 78 of 312 134 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Kaifongs could be represented on this Council, perhaps by appointment. Has this point been recently considered by the Secretary for Chinese Affairs? SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-No, Sir. MR. SALES:-Mr. Chairman, may I say that we the Appointed Members have already declared our intention to put up a candidate for an election at the right time. (Laughter). I declared at a public meeting in this room that the Appointed Members might consider putting up a worthwhile candidate at the time that they thought propitious. (Laughter). MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Does Mr. SALES refer to the Legislative Council? MR. SALES: I said the Urban Council. Mr. Chairman, may I also ask a supplementary question or two? Before I do so, I would like to assure our colleague the Secretary for Chinese Affairs, through you, Mr. Chairman, that the Appointed Members at least could not possibly have suspected him of any discourtesy in any release that might have been made to the Press. Having now made my peace with him, could I ask him, through you, Mr. Chairman, whether he did or did not inspire the Kowloon Kaifongs to eliminate any preference on the part of his subordinate for Kowloon as stated in his answer to my colleague Mr. BERNACCHI? SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-Sir, nothing has been inspired at all. It has been purely a matter of Kaifong Associations' own interests and wishes. MR. SALES:-Mr. Chairman, does the Secretary for Chinese Affairs consider it a grievous heresy for any high Government official to have a particularly Kowloon point of view? SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-Not a grievous heresy, Sir. (Laughter). MR. SALES:-Could he assure this Council that he would not discourage any of his subordinates from working in the interests of Kowloon? (Laughter). SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-Certainly, Sir. MR. SALES:-Thank you, Mr. Chairman. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MOTIONS. 135 MR. FUNG HON-CHU, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:- That the Milk (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960. He said: The purpose of these by-laws is to amend the Milk By-laws, 1960 to allow the Urban Council to permit sales of sterilized milk, in sealed containers, in shops without milk shop permits. It will be noted that exemption only applies to such brands of sterilized milk as the Council may approve, thus giving adequate opportunity to examine each individual application and to ensure that both the milk itself and the method of packing are such that no danger to health exists. Technically, there is no reason why sterilized milk should not be sold in shops without milk shop permits, since it has been treated in such a way as to destroy all bacteria and will therefore remain good without refrigeration for an indefinite time. Sterilized milk is sold in Great Britain and elsewhere in many general grocery shops. I beg to move. DR. P. F. Woo seconded. The question was put. The motion was carried. MR. FUNG HON-CHU, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:- That the Food Business (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960. He said: These by-laws are complementary to the Milk (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 which I have just moved. The purpose of the Food Business (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 is to amend the Second Schedule of the main By-laws, so as to allow the sale of certain brands of sterilized milk without permits. I beg to move. DR. P. F. Woo seconded. The question was put. The motion was carried. Page 78 of 312
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B12 Page 78 of 312 134 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Kaifongs could be represented on this Council, perhaps by appoint- ment. Has this point been recently considered by the Secretary for Chinese Affairs? SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-No, Sir. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, may I say that we the Appointed Members have already declared our intention to put up a candidate for an election at the right time. (Laughter). I declared at a public meeting in this room that the Appointed Members might consider putting up a worthwhile candidate at the time that they thought propitious. (Laughter). MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Does Mr. SALES refer to the Legislative Council? MR. SALES: I said the Urban Council. Mr. Chairman, may I also ask a supplementary question or two? Before I do so, I would like to assure our colleague the Secretary for Chinese Affairs, through you, Mr. Chairman, that the Appointed Members at least could not possibly have suspected him of any discourtesy in any release that might have been made to the Press. Having now made my peace with him, could I ask him, through you, Mr. Chairman, whether he did or did not inspire the Kowloon Kaifongs to eliminate any preference on the part of his subordinate for Kowloon as stated in his answer to my colleague Mr. BERNACCHI? SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS: --Sir, nothing has been inspired at all. It has been purely a matter of Kaifong Associations' own interests and wishes. MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, does the Secretary for Chinese Affairs consider it a grievous heresy for any high Government official to have a particularly Kowloon point of view? SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFIARS: -Not a grievous heresy, Sir. (Laughter). MR. SALES-Could he assure this Council that he would not dis- courage any of his subordinates from working in the interests of Kowloon? (Laughter). SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS: -Certainly, Sir. MR. SALES: -Thank you, Mr. Chairman. HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL MOTIONS. 135 MR. FUNG HON-CHU, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:- That the Milk (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960. He said: The purpose of these by-laws is to amend the Milk By-laws, 1960 to allow the Urban Council to permit sales of sterilized milk, in sealed containers, in shops without milk shop permits. It will be noted that exemption only applies to such brands of sterilized milk as the Council may approve, thus giving adequate op- portunity to examine each individual application and to ensure that both the milk itself and the method of packing are such that no danger to health exists. Technically, there is no reason why sterilized milk should not be sold in shops without milk shop permits, since it has been treated in such a way as to destroy all bacteria and will therefore remain good without refrigeration for an indefinite time. Sterilized milk is sold in Great Britain and elsewhere in many general grocery shops. I beg to move. DR. P. F. Woo seconded. The question was put. The motion was carried. MR. FUNG HON-CHU, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:--- That the Food Business (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960. He said: These by-laws are complementary to the Milk (Amend- ment) By-laws, 1964 which I have just moved. The purpose of the Food Business (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 is to amend the Second Schedule of the main By-laws, so as to allow the sale of certain brands of sterilized milk without permits. I beg to move. DR. P. F. Woo seconded. The question was put. The motion was carried.
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Kaifongs could be represented on this Council, perhaps by appoint- ment. Has this point been recently considered by the Secretary for Chinese Affairs?

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS:-No, Sir.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, may I say that we the Appointed Members have already declared our intention to put up a candidate for an election at the right time. (Laughter). I declared at a public meeting in this room that the Appointed Members might consider putting up a worthwhile candidate at the time that they thought propitious. (Laughter).

MR. CHEONG-LEEN:-Does Mr. SALES refer to the Legislative Council?

MR. SALES: I said the Urban Council. Mr. Chairman, may I also ask a supplementary question or two? Before I do so, I would like to assure our colleague the Secretary for Chinese Affairs, through you, Mr. Chairman, that the Appointed Members at least could not possibly have suspected him of any discourtesy in any release that might have been made to the Press. Having now made my peace with him, could I ask him, through you, Mr. Chairman, whether he did or did not inspire the Kowloon Kaifongs to eliminate any preference on the part of his subordinate for Kowloon as stated in his answer to my colleague Mr. BERNACCHI?

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS: --Sir, nothing has been inspired at all. It has been purely a matter of Kaifong Associations' own interests and wishes.

MR. SALES: -Mr. Chairman, does the Secretary for Chinese Affairs consider it a grievous heresy for any high Government official to have a particularly Kowloon point of view?

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFIARS: -Not a grievous heresy, Sir. (Laughter).

MR. SALES-Could he assure this Council that he would not dis- courage any of his subordinates from working in the interests of Kowloon? (Laughter).

SECRETARY FOR CHINESE AFFAIRS: -Certainly, Sir.

MR. SALES: -Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL

MOTIONS.

135

MR. FUNG HON-CHU, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:-

That the Milk (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960.

He said: The purpose of these by-laws is to amend the Milk By-laws, 1960 to allow the Urban Council to permit sales of sterilized milk, in sealed containers, in shops without milk shop permits.

It will be noted that exemption only applies to such brands of sterilized milk as the Council may approve, thus giving adequate op- portunity to examine each individual application and to ensure that both the milk itself and the method of packing are such that no danger to health exists. Technically, there is no reason why sterilized milk should not be sold in shops without milk shop permits, since it has been treated in such a way as to destroy all bacteria and will therefore remain good without refrigeration for an indefinite time. Sterilized milk is sold in Great Britain and elsewhere in many general grocery shops.

I beg to move.

DR. P. F. Woo seconded.

The question was put.

The motion was carried.

MR. FUNG HON-CHU, CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOD AND FOOD PREMISES SELECT COMMITTEE, moved the following motion:---

That the Food Business (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 be made under Section 56 of the Public Health and Urban Services Ordinance, 1960.

He said: These by-laws are complementary to the Milk (Amend- ment) By-laws, 1964 which I have just moved. The purpose of the Food Business (Amendment) By-laws, 1964 is to amend the Second Schedule of the main By-laws, so as to allow the sale of certain brands of sterilized milk without permits.

I beg to move.

DR. P. F. Woo seconded.

The question was put.

The motion was carried.

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