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recreation. It is most desirable in the public interest that public land should be used, to some extent at least, for purposes which are beneficial to the children of Hong Kong.

MR. WILSON WANG:- Mr. Chairman, may I ask if there is any officer in the Department or any delegated office, whose duty it is to see that all these lands are well and truly used to good purpose?

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:- Are you talking about the Public Works Department, Sir, or the Urban Services Department? (Laughter). MR. WANG- Public Works Department or any Government Department.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:- Speaking from the Public Works Department's point of view, we have a lease enforcement division which goes round and sees that the conditions of lease are adhered to. This is not really applicable to the cases mentioned above. As far as we are concerned, these clubs do carry out what they are supposed to be doing. They are social clubs and as long as their members are happy I doubt whether any information would come to the Department. On the other hand, of course, if members of the public or especially the Urban Council, do think that certain land has not been properly used, if they raise a query it will be looked into. I have no knowledge or information that these clubs are not being used for the purposes for which they are intended.

MR. WANG: Mr. Chairman, are you willing to make representations to Government that the Urban Amenities Select Committee should be the proper body delegated with the duty and power to inspect activities of these clubs and to recommend further renewals of leases in respect of Government land, or cancellations if it is not well utilized?

CHAIRMAN:- If I am requested by the Urban Amenities Select Committee to forward such representations, I will naturally do so.

(5) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:

Having regard to a motion passed by this Council on 6th January, 1959 concerning the development of King's Park, will the Chairman please tell this Council what has been done since then and what plans there are for the remaining public open space in that locality?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:-

For the purposes of this question, I would propose to define King's Park as that area bounded by Waterloo Road, Nathan Road, Gascoigne Road and the Railway Track, although I have noticed that in the report of the 1950 Advisory Committee on Recreation Grounds, the definition included the area south of this, down to Austin Road.

The motion referred to in the question was as follows:

"That this Council request Government to maintain King's Park, where it is not used for the new Kowloon Hospital and not at present occupied by private clubs, as a public park under the responsibility of this Council.”

I think that you will recall, Sir, that reference was made in addition, at the time and at a subsequent meeting of the Council in April 1960 to the building of the new Military Hospital and an access road thereto, and also the reprovisioning of the Railway staff quarters near Gascoigne Road.

At the time of the motion, the only formal public recreation ground in the King's Park area was the 21 acre Hockey Ground at the foot of Wylie Road by Gascoigne Road. Subsequently, the King's Park Garden has been developed; this is an area of 10 acres surrounding the Radio Sonde Station. There are now under development a further 2 acres of amenity plots and sitting-out areas along Wylie Road and Nairn Road.

For the future, my friend the Director of Public Works is considering the desirability of recommending the allocation of remaining areas in King's Park to the Urban Council for development for public amenity purposes, particularly those west of Wylie Road.

MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, is it not a fact that the land now held by the Medical Department adjoining the Queen Elizabeth Hospital has in fact been passed to the Urban Services Department for development as open space?

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:- That is not the case to my knowledge, Mr. Chairman. This land is still held by the Medical Department. I am afraid that until the full extent of the expansion of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital is finalized, I do not think we can alienate that land permanently to anything else.

MR. SALES:- Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. That is a very frank reply. Now, has the land previously held by the Education Department been assigned to the Urban Services Department?

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188 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Page 106 of 312 189 recreation. It is most desirable in the public interest that public land should be used, to some extent at least, for purposes which are beneficial to the children of Hong Kong. MR. WILSON WANG:- Mr. Chairman, may I ask if there is any officer in the Department or any delegated office, whose duty it is to see that all these lands are well and truly used to good purpose? DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:- Are you talking about the Public Works Department, Sir, or the Urban Services Department? (Laughter). MR. WANG- Public Works Department or any Government Department. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:- Speaking from the Public Works Department's point of view, we have a lease enforcement division which goes round and sees that the conditions of lease are adhered to. This is not really applicable to the cases mentioned above. As far as we are concerned, these clubs do carry out what they are supposed to be doing. They are social clubs and as long as their members are happy I doubt whether any information would come to the Department. On the other hand, of course, if members of the public or especially the Urban Council, do think that certain land has not been properly used, if they raise a query it will be looked into. I have no knowledge or information that these clubs are not being used for the purposes for which they are intended. MR. WANG: Mr. Chairman, are you willing to make representations to Government that the Urban Amenities Select Committee should be the proper body delegated with the duty and power to inspect activities of these clubs and to recommend further renewals of leases in respect of Government land, or cancellations if it is not well utilized? CHAIRMAN:- If I am requested by the Urban Amenities Select Committee to forward such representations, I will naturally do so. (5) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question: Having regard to a motion passed by this Council on 6th January, 1959 concerning the development of King's Park, will the Chairman please tell this Council what has been done since then and what plans there are for the remaining public open space in that locality? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:- For the purposes of this question, I would propose to define King's Park as that area bounded by Waterloo Road, Nathan Road, Gascoigne Road and the Railway Track, although I have noticed that in the report of the 1950 Advisory Committee on Recreation Grounds, the definition included the area south of this, down to Austin Road. The motion referred to in the question was as follows: "That this Council request Government to maintain King's Park, where it is not used for the new Kowloon Hospital and not at present occupied by private clubs, as a public park under the responsibility of this Council.” I think that you will recall, Sir, that reference was made in addition, at the time and at a subsequent meeting of the Council in April 1960 to the building of the new Military Hospital and an access road thereto, and also the reprovisioning of the Railway staff quarters near Gascoigne Road. At the time of the motion, the only formal public recreation ground in the King's Park area was the 21 acre Hockey Ground at the foot of Wylie Road by Gascoigne Road. Subsequently, the King's Park Garden has been developed; this is an area of 10 acres surrounding the Radio Sonde Station. There are now under development a further 2 acres of amenity plots and sitting-out areas along Wylie Road and Nairn Road. For the future, my friend the Director of Public Works is considering the desirability of recommending the allocation of remaining areas in King's Park to the Urban Council for development for public amenity purposes, particularly those west of Wylie Road. MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, is it not a fact that the land now held by the Medical Department adjoining the Queen Elizabeth Hospital has in fact been passed to the Urban Services Department for development as open space? DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:- That is not the case to my knowledge, Mr. Chairman. This land is still held by the Medical Department. I am afraid that until the full extent of the expansion of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital is finalized, I do not think we can alienate that land permanently to anything else. MR. SALES:- Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. That is a very frank reply. Now, has the land previously held by the Education Department been assigned to the Urban Services Department?
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312 188 HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL HONG KONG URBAN COUNCIL Page 106 of 312 189 recreation. It is most desirable in the public interest that public land should be used, to some extent at least, for purposes which are bene- ficial to the children of Hong Kong. MR. WILSON WANG:-Mr. Chairman, may I ask if there is any officer in the Department or any delegated office, whose duty it is to see that all these lands are well and truly used to good purpose? DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-Are you talking about the Public Works Department, Sir, or the Urban Services Department? (Laughter). MR. WANG-Public Works Department or any Government Department. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-Speaking from the Public Works Department's point of view, we have a lease enforcement division which goes round and sees that the conditions of lease are adhered to. This is not really applicable to the cases mentioned above. As far as we are concerned, these clubs do carry out what they are supposed to be doing. They are social clubs and as long as their members are happy I doubt whether any information would come to the Department. On the other hand, of course, if members of the public or especially the Urban Council, do think that certain land has not been properly used, if they raise a query it will be looked into. I have no knowledge or informa- tion that these clubs are not being used for the purposes for which they are intended. MR. WANG: Mr. Chairman, are you willing to make representa- tions to Government that the Urban Amenities Select Committee should be the proper body delegated with the duty and power to inspect activities of these clubs and to recommend further renewals of leases in respect of Government land, or cancellations if it is not well utilized? CHAIRMAN: -If I am requested by the Urban Amenities Select Committee to forward such representations, I will naturally do so. (5) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question: Having regard to a motion passed by this Council on 6th January, 1959 concerning the development of King's Park, will the Chairman please tell this Council what has been done since then and what plans there are for the remaining public open space in that locality? THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:- - For the purposes of this question, I would propose to define King's Park as that area bounded by Waterloo Road, Nathan Road, Gascoigne Road and the Railway Track, although I have noticed that in the report of the 1950 Advisory Committee on Recreation Grounds, the defini- tion included the area south of this, down to Austin Road. The motion referred to in the question was as follows: "That this Council request Government to maintain King's Park, where it is not used for the new Kow- loon Hospital and not at present occupied by private clubs, as a public park under the responsibility of this Council.” I think that you will recall, Sir, that reference was made in addition, at the time and at a subsequent meeting of the Council in April 1960 to the building of the new Military Hospital and an access road thereto, and also the reprovisioning of the Railway staff quarters near Gascoigne Road. At the time of the motion, the only formal public recreation ground in the King's Park area was the 21 acre Hockey Ground at the foot of Wylie Road by Gascoigne Road. Subsequently, the King's Park Garden has been devel- oped; this is an area of 10 acres surrounding the Radio Sonde Station. There are now under development a further 2 acres of amenity plots and sitting-out areas along Wylie Road and Nairn Road. For the future, my friend the Director of Public Works is con- sidering the desirability of recommending the allocation of remaining areas in King's Park to the Urban Council for development for public amenity purposes, particularly those west of Wylie Road. MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, is it not a fact that the land now held by the Medical Department adjoining the Queen Elizabeth Hospital has in fact been passed to the Urban Services Department for development as open space? DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: --That is not the case to my knowl- edge, Mr. Chairman. This land is still held by the Medical Depart- ment. I am afraid that until the full extent of the expansion of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital is finalized, I do not think we can alienate that land permanently to anything else. MR. SALES: -Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. That is a very frank reply. Now, has the land previously held by the Education Department been assigned to the Urban Services Department?
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recreation. It is most desirable in the public interest that public land should be used, to some extent at least, for purposes which are bene- ficial to the children of Hong Kong.

MR. WILSON WANG:-Mr. Chairman, may I ask if there is any officer in the Department or any delegated office, whose duty it is to see that all these lands are well and truly used to good purpose?

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-Are you talking about the Public Works Department, Sir, or the Urban Services Department? (Laughter). MR. WANG-Public Works Department or any Government Department.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS:-Speaking from the Public Works Department's point of view, we have a lease enforcement division which goes round and sees that the conditions of lease are adhered to. This is not really applicable to the cases mentioned above. As far as we are concerned, these clubs do carry out what they are supposed to be doing. They are social clubs and as long as their members are happy I doubt whether any information would come to the Department. On the other hand, of course, if members of the public or especially the Urban Council, do think that certain land has not been properly used, if they raise a query it will be looked into. I have no knowledge or informa- tion that these clubs are not being used for the purposes for which they are intended.

MR. WANG: Mr. Chairman, are you willing to make representa- tions to Government that the Urban Amenities Select Committee should be the proper body delegated with the duty and power to inspect activities of these clubs and to recommend further renewals of leases in respect of Government land, or cancellations if it is not well utilized?

CHAIRMAN: -If I am requested by the Urban Amenities Select Committee to forward such representations, I will naturally do so.

(5) MR. A. de O. SALES asked the following question:

Having regard to a motion passed by this Council on 6th January, 1959 concerning the development of King's Park, will the Chairman please tell this Council what has been done since then and what plans there are for the remaining public open space in that locality?

THE CHAIRMAN replied as follows:-

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For the purposes of this question, I would propose to define King's Park as that area bounded by Waterloo Road, Nathan Road, Gascoigne Road and the Railway Track,

although I have noticed that in the report of the 1950 Advisory Committee on Recreation Grounds, the defini- tion included the area south of this, down to Austin Road.

The motion referred to in the question was as follows:

"That this Council request Government to maintain King's Park, where it is not used for the new Kow- loon Hospital and not at present occupied by private clubs, as a public park under the responsibility of this Council.”

I think that you will recall, Sir, that reference was made in addition, at the time and at a subsequent meeting of the Council in April 1960 to the building of the new Military Hospital and an access road thereto, and also the reprovisioning of the Railway staff quarters near Gascoigne Road.

At the time of the motion, the only formal public recreation ground in the King's Park area was the 21 acre Hockey Ground at the foot of Wylie Road by Gascoigne Road. Subsequently, the King's Park Garden has been devel- oped; this is an area of 10 acres surrounding the Radio Sonde Station. There are now under development a further 2 acres of amenity plots and sitting-out areas along Wylie Road and Nairn Road.

For the future, my friend the Director of Public Works is con- sidering the desirability of recommending the allocation of remaining areas in King's Park to the Urban Council for development for public amenity purposes, particularly those west of Wylie Road.

MR. SALES: Mr. Chairman, is it not a fact that the land now held by the Medical Department adjoining the Queen Elizabeth Hospital has in fact been passed to the Urban Services Department for development as open space?

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS: --That is not the case to my knowl- edge, Mr. Chairman. This land is still held by the Medical Depart- ment. I am afraid that until the full extent of the expansion of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital is finalized, I do not think we can alienate that land permanently to anything else.

MR. SALES: -Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. That is a very frank reply. Now, has the land previously held by the Education Department been assigned to the Urban Services Department?

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