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The System Must End :)

undesirable, unnecessary and us workable. Bat, Sir, whether we are

I am clear that the clausen "in right or wrong in our views wel some shape or form must form think we have the right to demand part of the Bill, and I myself can (Caitinged? pron Page 2)

that our views on clauses 2 and 3) 100 Do reason why they should not, supposition. The Chinese custom, should be submitted to the Secre. because it is perfectly clear that ax i understand it, undoubtedly is tary of State for the Colonies be the system must end. The hon that the payment of money dens for these clauses are "rammed") member says the system is actually confer certain rights on the për-[through this Council against the put an end to by clause 2 In that son who pays that money. I can-unanimous wishes of the, Unofficial case why object to saying so and not see any good or any advantage| Members by use of the Official rete, prevent recruitment of future miris to be got by saying that people Your Excellency has stated that fail erroneously suppose a thing when, clauses 4 and 5 must be passed as The Secretary of State has ex- as I understand the position, they they stand. because of the instruc-pressed his readiness to listen to do mat erroneously suppose the tians received from the Secretary alvice en any of the minor matters thing at all. That is all I have for State. It seems to me to be of the Bill and, of conne, he will to say, Sir, with regard to my imputing an extraordinarily auto-pay due attention to what has been amandment as to clause 2.

cratic temperament to that high said on his subject. Well now. Payment Centers No Rights, eficial to suppose that he desires what is the use of postponing this The Attorney-General; Cheap these instructions to be carried out bill and putting it into Part 37 preciates the desire to make this immediately, instead of with the only means that the abolition élause more direct and arresting, delay of two or three months only ;)of the

system will be delayed, hat I think the runisalua of the pre-fand I think, Sir, that such a sup- possibly for two or three months. amb'e obscures one very impurtant pusition is extraordinarily uncomIt is not to be suposed that the point, namely, that the clause does|plimentary to car new Secretary Secretary of State will alter his not make any chance in the law of State. I cannot imagine, Sir, opinion on the matter, and the only the payment of that de has any desire excepting to practical difference would be that money in return for obtaining the hind out wha; the views of this a certain number of persons would possession of a child has never, in Crune ere on this measure,

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to hear the hon. merater questiberations into a positive farce. the currectness of the preamble auhave before me now, Sir, a Augiat that it is not an prosedur Kram from leades of December which is most unlikely, it would 13th, in which the Dake of Devot always be possible to repeal and suposition at at and that pasire. speaking at the Nigeria Clubi to harm w be

dinner, said he wished the Colonies that for a few months no one would] speaking, Sir, in ims clause, of Eng to retard him not merely as head be able to obtain a revidni, which, fish law, Hongkong law, and what of the office, but also as a friend.

the bon, member will agree, would levet rights may be in China ti ev c

be desirable. We do not wish Interference with Men on Spot. It is labtedly) at, estompras supposition that pay-

Well, Sir, in view of that state-people to engage further mai-fugi tubes of my lor a chi e aferent of the Duke of Devonshire, and I think the more dificult we ne has ever conferred any, rights un the purchagt, and I think it is intended by anticipation to absolute-advantage to the community.

y preclude and bar himself from am extremely sorry to differ from Isortant to keep the perande ar this plans toe nake that point quite considering any reasoned opinions the hon. member, but I feel the made by the neficial Members of chuses in some form or other must the Council with regard to any be included in some part of the IE. the Governor: I think the measure brought before it. He Bill which comes into immediate kom, member's objection will also makes a statement to the effect operation. I am quite willing to que in order if we

cut out the that he will not interfere with the consider any saggestions changing (word "erroneously," which meana

men or the spot. Well, Sir, I think the wording. thing very important from the Unofficial Members of the

Entirely Harmles point of view but seems to ment Council can claim to be more than Hon. Mr. Pollock: Here is great deal from the hon. member one man, and it is an interferesce clause which must be passed I point of view. There is no question, with them. It is also, Sir,if the don't, see where we shall benefit I think, that certain persons have head of the Colony is intended ourselves by trying to adopt an- made this error.coms supposition. an interference with the Governor other. If you are bound by in-

Grealy Exaggerated Charges. of the Colony to say. not merely structions you are fully bond. Hon. Mr. Holyoak: Is it not very that he wishes a

H.E the Governor: I am bound aportant that we should at this to be passed but that he will not by instructions to introduce some janeture protest in the most vic. receive from the Governor any exclause which will have this effect

and comprehensive tema pression of opinion in Council but Hon. Mr. Pollock: I don't thinki

elarges he insiste upon a certain course of you have quite comprehended the levelled against us in the Press of action being taken entirely with rat point of the Unofficials, which is

any reference to that opinien. that it is England-grossly exaggeratend an

absolutely impossible. now. Sir, have to formally move as after this Bill has been passed to |largely untree ebarges. I fou

we doubt you did. Sir, when an amendment, that clauses and employ mui-tac-in the old sense 15 be put into Part 3 of this Bill of autsai-at all It almost

point and upon this

[ fee! Sa

want a new term to describe them. being shown strongly the disrespect that

HE the Governor: In that case; to the considered!

the clause is entirely harmless. If minions of the Unofficial Members the will be no such person there of this Council the subject. hall have to press für a division.

can be, no harm in saying she can- Ino: be employed. Very Definite Instructions. H.F. the Governor: I trust tha in his last sentence the hon. met

ngaina the

stant

Home in the past few months, con- references "Hongkong

11 slavery" and evet, to an open slave market statements which wore proposterous in conemption as they were true in fact. It is

the Colony and the good govern | tens of the Colony that those tas insinuations al positio- misrepre sentations of the truth shambl b contested in the

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certain measure

; no referring to me

Be Council

Hon. Mr. Pollock; But there will e persona claiming to be identi fed as multsci, and the effect of passing this clause is that

after

fortn. Therefore. I wholly agree! showing disrespect to the views this will have two forms-the

ch pour Exeedierey that the zemras

It is the last thing legal and the illegal forms-ot terrorrens," whether it is employ-lĮ meite to do, but, in this matter, moi-tal. You will have endless in the Bill or not, does conveg I love, as I have already stated, disputes and enquiries as to whe he conviction of this Council with very definite instructions, The other the person is of the legal or regard to public opinion at Home, ember has read certain extrets legal standing. Further, it will every single young from a telegram relating to what mean that which has been fostered upon Re misrepresentation of the truth,

ITE. the Governog: The Terrie

che Duke of Devonshire said after Chinese girl coming into the Colony a lunch on a certain occasion. Iwill be under suspicion as a poten!

[nus supposers' are the Chinese whate a telegram her, dated shortly Sial suspected muri-tsai 1 do not before that time, in wLigh he says know how many inspectors you paid morey for multani.

De considers this law

have. but you will sbooki

bare to have

The Attorney General; And the) Eur peans why imagined that thei sale of human beings was recognis jed nere by English law: they made)

passed without further delay, on hundreds. I would ask for al

the following lines:

divisica to be taken on this amend- ment.. Declaration that payment in res Hon. Mr. Chow Shou-son second- the same erroneous supposition and pect of a child coolers no rightsed the amendment, and on the they have called upon us to change from the date of the passing of this division the votes were recorded the law when, as a matter of fact,} Ordmance; registration of mui-fani, os follows: there is no need to change the law, In passing a Bill on the above For: All Unofficials. because the law has never recognis lines, there can be no compromise

on the first and second provisions,

Against: All Officials.

Ill-treatment. Clause.

ed any rights whatever.

The Hon. Mr. Pollock: I am but we will carefully and sym. Hon. Mr. Pollock moved that afraid Members of Parliament do pathetically consider any repre-clause & be transposed so that not recognise themselves—as my sentations the Chinese may wish sub-section 2 became sub-section friend deeaa "certain persons." to make before the proclamation, 1 and vice versa. He thought this

FLE. the Govenor: I confess bringing Part 111 into force, is a better order. I did not either. What the Hon. issued.

as to the

The Attorney General: I see.

The amendment was agreed to, Hon. Mr. Pollock mored that a new clause be inserted after clause

16 to run as follows:

Mr. Holyoak has said makes те The telegram was sent alter the no objection. think it wise to retain the word Secretary of State received from "erroneous," and I think it must here a full statement remove the objections of the Hon. chjections to the Bill raised by the Mr. Pollock There is no question Chinese comarunity, which that the opinions of Members of all the ground which has been work or ill-treatment of s mui-teai Ever "In very prosecution for over- Parliament and others at Home to takes, and it was pointed out to medical evidence shall be given whom he referred were erroneous.

The Hon. Mr. Pollock did note-I was told in the telegram before the Magistrate trying the press his amendment, and it was ward were those that the Secretary by such mus-tsal, and the magie- received--the objections put for ease as to the injuries received agreed that clause 2 should stan part of the Bill

of State was aware of, when his trate shall find whether such ill-

amounted, in decision was taken. 'I am positive treatment Hon. Mr. Pollock: With regard the Secretary of State has no de opinion, to gross cruelty or not."

"In the event of such Magistrate}" to clauses 4 and 5 I have to more aire to show any disrespect to the

Ill-treatment an amendment that they be remov~| Council, and I deprecate the sugges finding that such

amounts to gross cruelty, the nd into Part 3 of the Bill. As I tion that because the Secretary offender shall not be given the have already explained, Sir, in my of State has prejudged the matter

Undesirable Clauses.

Unofficial

therefore the

his

opening speech,

option of paying a fine, but shall the

Council's views be sentenced by the Magistrate to Members of Council have spent al will not be considered. It is very imprisonment for a term not ex considerable amount of time on this rarely that the Secretary of State ceeding one year." Bill As regards myself it would takes a decisive line of this kind, be more correct to say that I have and in this instance I fear bis de spent days than hours on this mea-size to take the views of the man sure and the construction thereof. on thecapot has possibly been And the conclusion the Unoticial overred by his desire to do what Members have come to on this Bill be-believes to be right ariel "in is that these clauses 4 sud – 5. are accordance with British principles.

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