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EXTRA-TERRITORIALITY

IN CHINA

WHAT FOREIGNERS WANT; AND WHAT CAN CHINA GIVE!

[RY TINDAL KING.]

The Chinese Government has decided not to declare a unilateral äbolition, ef extra-territoriality. This wise and statesmanlike action has gained prestige among foreign powers for the National Governinent, but the problem of obtaining security for foreign life, and property in "China still remains, as ♫ cstrality” cannot ". 'be regnected na y permanent settlement. In the following article * Mr. Tindal King analysis the many aspects of this difficult subject,,

The subject of the abolition of world, nadvancement can take place Extrality in China is one that may by the negative process of standing

Difficulties.

If we are to understand aright. the difficulties confrenting both the Chinese and British" Governments in this matter of Treaty revision, we must go back to the pro-Tranty days and compare the conditions prevailing in those times with the position to day. just na rade-conscious as she is a the present time, and indeed ag na period in hör chequered history has chu ever been anything else, so when wo read today that the spirit of Nationalism" is abroad," and that

be snid to have exercised the helplessly still. ingenuity of statommen in Chino ever since its inception, or, to bb mano accurate. ever since Chinese statcamen realised that in granting extraterritorial status to foreigners they had given away something tho value of which was not fully com- prohended at the time the Treaties ambodying this condition were sign. ed. There can be no question but that any Government possessing the lenas vestige of wolf-respect must feel that in the Twentieth Century to have in their country an imperium in imperio is darogatory to national dignity, impairing to national authority, and a barrior to nation-

China then WAR

400,000,000 Chinese demand with one voice the abolition of all privi- leges enjoyed by foreignera "in China," we recognise the profession al politician and can dishes what he says in the same way na we do the party shibboletha bandied about at any Ganeral Election in our own country.

Foreign Trade.

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Can anyone arm to-day that China is worse off than she was

advancement. Viewed on this wide plane China undoubtedly morits the sympathy of Japan and the Western Powers, and this sym- pathy was given very practical effect, to at the Washington Confér- ence in 1021 when China presented her case and the Pewors agreed to abolition of their special privileges directly China could show that shie had so far set her house in order before Trade came knocking in- that the live and property of for-sistently at her doar and demanding eignart could safely be left in her admittance? Or that, in fact, in- good keeping. From this position tercourse with foreign nations has none of the Powers has receded, in any gibal way retarded her own and indeed Grant Britain has gone natural evolution or destroyed her further than her co-signatories, basic individuality 1 Surely notably when Sir Austen Chamber must be admitted that Great Bri; Iain sponsored the Memorandum oftain and America have consistently December, 1938 and followed it by followed but one course only, that the surrender of Hankow. And of commerce, ever since their mer from that day to thin the British chants came to Canton in the early mercantile communities throughoutį part of last century.? And that the length and breadth of China them relations have been of the have loyally supported their Gov- greatest mutual benefit to China.on ernment in a policy which has be the one hand and to England and come almost an article of faith but America on the other? If this posi- curtain aspects of which a large tion he conceded-and it mema ́a scation must believe to be founded difficult one to refute-we must ask on the utterly imfrácticable theory ourselves by what process has this that is this modern work-a-day highly complicated business of trade

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been carried on during all these years and the answer is: Compre- mise, or in another word, Trenty...... It was the sensible way out of a diffaulty crouted by-two civilian-ba tions, each suitel to its own peopla but not suited to each other. And. isn't the situation to-day very much more complex than it was 100 years ago, calling" not for unilateral action by any party but for more compromise by all parties Pride

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rica isina admirable quality, and it must never be forgotten that there is no question of superiority of civilisations us between China and the West but a difference be tween two civilisations, and those who will not thia-be they Europeans or Chinese-re laying up for everybody in China. none abilities the end of which is not bret in sight.

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Sir Robert Hart's Opinion. Sir Robert Hart in his book, "These From The Land Of Sinim," asked

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Would it not, then, be wall to take up the subject of extra territoriality, and hear what is to be said on both sides; how much the foreigner wante, why. and for how long; how much China feels at liberty to allow, what it is she dislikes and why and put the whole question of the relation of each to the other on a fair, friendly, and intelli- gible footing?

and he goes on to say that on the one hand the foreigner hust let China see tint she is protected, from what she has taken to be the chief dangers of intercourse, while on the other China must clear the path for foreign legitimate enterprise. Metatis mutandia, isn't this the position to-day! Let us take the points raised by Sir Robert Hart:

(1) How much the foreigner wasta

and why, and for how long.

Security the Need,

MAN WHO WALKED IN SLEEP.

DEVOTED COUPLE SHOT..

Evidence regarding Ats, and som nambulism, was given at the inquest on William Holt, 53, eldest son of a former Mayor of Chichester, and his wife, 32, who were found shot dead at their house, Chesleigh, Stockbridge-rand, Chichester.

A verdict that Mr. Holt shot his wife and committed suicide while of unsound mind was returned.

John Holt, a brother, inid that the dead man had suffered from its. In thess fits he would become un- conscious and be very depressed for a couple of days afterwards. Ho also used to walk in his sleep. They had had half a dozen tusslow in their early days when his brother wanted to walk downstairs in his sleep.

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January 8. Shun Lee, Chinese at 919 tons,

Empt. Miyanka, from Dairen, Bay baoy No. BI1.-Yu Tai Hong.

January 7. Florence D., American str., 1,810 tons, Capt. A. H Miranda, frem Manila. Taikoo Dock.- States & Co.

Graciosa, Norwegian str., 1,020 tons, Capt. Märkussen, from Bangkok, buoy No. BS.-Thore sơn & Ca.. Halvard, British str., 1,217 tons,' Capt A. Hall, from Saigon, budy No. C-Wo Fat Sing.. Hong Ba, British str., 1,994 tons,

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Capt. C. Cowan, from Singa- pore, buoy No. AS.-Ho Thong & Co.

Mrs. Holt had undergone Ave opera-Hopsang, British str., 1,350 tons, | tions, and her husband worried a

good deal about her health.

It was stated that Mr. and Mrs. Holt were devoted to each other and, appeared to be quite happy on Friday and Saturday.

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Dr. J. Craig anid that after such it as had been described a man for a time would not be responsible for his actions,

Deputy Chief Constable Brett ex- pressed the view that when Holt used the revolver on himself he held a mirror in the other hand.

YOUNG BOYS TAKEN FROM SCHOOL.

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parents continuing the education of CONSIGNEE NOTICES. 19

their sone at public schools was re- ferred to by Mr. John Talbot, The foreigner wants security for Master of Haileybury College, at person and property, and he docs the seventeenth Old Haileyburian. not see in any existing arrange-Society triennial dinner at the ments in China how these can be Hotel Victoria, London. effectively guaranteed except by the Many parents were Anding these imperium in imperio, and is un-times extraordinarily hard, and that willing to surrender" actual and meant that some boys of 15, 16, or proved anteguards for paper ones 17 were taken away from Hailey. in view of the disturbed condition bury through no fault their own of the country and of the very or of their parents just when they patent fact that no Government were getting a favourable training, writ runs throughout the land. Viscount Allenby, an old Hailey this an unreasonable attitude 1 barian, giving the toast of "The (2) How much, China feels School," said the school had never

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Col. N, C. King, hon, spcretary of the society, on behalf of his fellow members. presented to the school a portrait of Viscount Allenby by Mr. Oswald Birley.

trade would have been what it has tion but for the protection afforded been since the year of the Revelu- by foreign Governments to their nationale, from which Chinese and foreign merebants have derived a like advantage.".

Since Sir Robert Hart asked the foregoing question, the politien situntien in China has altered en- tirely. In 1000 she was an absolute monarchy, and the security of the Throne was paramount to all other matters, so these considerations do not now qualify whatever China may feel at liberty to allow to-day. But what she disliked then is what she dislikes to-day, and that is the Foreigners feel there can be only imperium in imperio, or in one one answer to this question, which word, Extra-territoriality. It may leads quite naturally to another: What will be the position if, Ex- be conceded at once that China 1trality is abandoned Is China at propared to allow fair trade; in present capablo-in any Western dead in no country is trade so much rise of the word-of taking on the the lifeblood of the people as it diverse and highly complex respon sibilities of complete autonomy Is in China, nor in any country is Where is her judiciary, from which it so perfectly developed, so intr-all stable government flows? It 1 cately organised, or so uniformly in modern times can properly tune idle to argue that any government successful. But the foreigner, hav tion without an independent judi- ing been largely responsible for ciary, and in China to-day can it ba. demonstrated that there is a the great expansion of trade since recognised Code of Laws that is pre-Treaty days, and seeing around applied without fear or favour by him the immediate effects of the independent qualified judges ↑ lack of organised Government, nar turally asks: Where will it all end? And equally naturally he asks for safeguards, frankly as much in his own interests as in those of na tive traders they are, after all, interdependent-but nevertheless he asks for safeguards. And that is

the crux of the whole problem.

Diffused Democracy,

Treaty Revision,

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