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THE ETHICS OF TICKET-PUNCHING.

"PUNCH, BROTHERS, PUNCH!”

RIGHTS OF RAILWAY TRAVELLERS DEBATED IN COURT.

The hearing of the case in which Mr. T G..H, Brayñold, of Messrs. Carmichael & Clerk, and residing at Taipe, was summoned on three counts was commenced before Mr.

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THE HONG KONG DAILY PRESS, WEDNESDAY, MAY 28, 1930.

CHINESE TENEMENT APPLICATIONS FOR REGISTRATION OF

LAVATORIES.

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REASONS FOR REFUSING APPLICATIONS.

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FLUSH SYSTEM.

MUI TSAI

DISCUSSION BY SANITARY OVER 3,000 ALREADY ON

BOARD MEMBERS.

RECORD.

SANITARY BOARD PRESIDENT AN IMPORTANT MOTION FOR

"ANSWERS QUESTIONS.

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At the fortnightly meeting at the Sanitary Board yesterday, Mr.

THE NEXT MEETING..

A discussion took place at the arising out of an application for Sanitary Board meeting yesterday

tion with which a minute was made Queen's Road Central, in conner- hy the President, Mr. G. R. Sayer.

SALUTARY EFFECT OF

DRASTIC ACTION.

the Colony, which began in Novem The registration of mus" teus in her last, will come to a close by

T. S. Whyte-Smith at the Kowloon it to be examined. Witness said he Wong Kwong Tin raised the quas the erection of water closets at 389, the end of the current month. Up.

Magistracy yesterday,'

tion of water closets in Chinese tenements houses. He asked for the reasons why applications for in- The matter came before the full Wah Hospital and the Kwong Wah

but as he was holding such a big { portion of it, the collector said he He made a gesture to take over the could not carry out any punching. ticket for examination and for punching, but Mr. Brarfeld with drew his ticket and did not allow had instructions to examine tickets Mr. Brayield was summoned on

to see that they might not be used three charges, namely: (a) wilfully on more than one occasion. Mr. obstructing or impeding F. W. Win-Brayfield then went on to the train. yard, a railway servant, in the dis- The collector atated that he immed- stallation had been frequently re- charge of his duty, in that he re-iately reported the incident to Mr.fused on grounds other than that fused to show his ticket for the Winyard. purpose of examination, or at least Mr. Prior (cross-examining wit-of failure to comply with the pre- that he showed it in such a way ness): that it was impossible for the com- tions to pay attention to Mr. Bray that the general procedure be do You have special instruc-scribed conditions and also asked plainant to examine it on May 8; field? (b) wilfully obstructing or impeding

Witness: No. I do the same fined. The President (Mr. G. R. Li You Leung, a railway servant, thing to every passenger.

Sayer) replied to the questions. in the discharge of his duty in that he refused to show his ticket "for

An Angry Retort,

The following were the cuestions the purpose of examining or pinch- Dealing with the discussion be ing it, or, at least, that he showed had with Mr. Brayfield in the train, it in such a way that it was im Mr. F. W. Winyard said, After possible for the complainant to ex- the train had left the station, I amine it on May 8; and (e) unlaw-went up to Mr. Brayfield and asked fully did without permission of the Administrator of the Railway, leave or cause to be left motor car No. 21 on the railway premises or approach thereto which is under the control of the Administrator on May 14, 13 and 16.

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him to let me have his ticket. He replied that he had already shown it at Kowloon. I replied, I have a report that you had not done so! Will you please show it to me 1 Mr. Brayield then took a ticket

and answers—

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Question: In view of the fact that permission for the installation of water closets in Chinese "zene- ment houses has been frequently refused on grounds other than that of a failure to comply with pre- spribed conditions, will the President kindly state what other conditions must be fulfilled before permission

can be recommended 1.

Answer: convince that, over

Board in accordance with a recent in case the Committee who are em- docision sanctioning this procedure powered to deal with the applica tions ware not unanimously agreed The Hon. Mr. H. T. Creasy (Director of Public Works) moved that the application be refused.

in their decision.

to the present time, over 3,000 mi txais have been registered at the Secretariat for Chinese Affairs, the various police stations, the Toug Hospital.

At first, owners, of mui tania

hesitated to register their gizl following the putting into effect of slaves, and in the four months registration, there were only about 400 mui tanis registered. Drastic action was then taken by the Mr. Sayer said he was inclined Chinese Anti-Mui Tai Society to to agree with this view. He point urge the public to apply for regis. tration, and in consequence, the ed out that there were two reasons why such applications should he number of registrations has been. refused. In the first place, he rapidly increasing. It is expected thought that by putting in a new that the total number of the regis contrivance in an old building, the tered mui train will be 4,000 when life of such a building was unneces- the period of registration expires.

The Chinese Anti-Mui Tsai So- sarily prolonged. The other reason was the question of health, whichciety will continue its work irres bered that Mr. Lo recently moved a was very important. He remem pective of the stoppage of regis

tration by the end of the present motion in connection with tuber month, so as to take precautions culosis and, in doing so, bit the against frauds inherent in the mui rail almost on the head. The Pre tai system. The Society recently statistics.

Bureau of Social Reform asking for its views and actions regarding the abolition of the mus tani system in Canton. The Burean in turn has naked the Society for its re- gulations and report of proceedings

out and held is at arm's length, and above specified. conditions, thesident then went on to deal with addressed a note to the Canton

Mr. L. R. Andrewes, Assistant away from me. I told him I wish- Crown Solicitor, "appeared on behalfed to examine and punch the ticket. of the railway officials, while Mr. He told me, I will not allow you T. J. Prior represented Mr. Bray to touch it, angrily." field.

Mr. Winyard said that he waS At the auggestion of the Magis-about to take the ticket when Mr. trate, both parties agreed to pro- Brayheld said, "Take your band ceed with the (a) and (b) charges away from it. I tell you I will not and continue with (e) charge at a show it to you, and that is definite." Inter hearing.

Mr. Brayfield also added that he had bought the ticket and he would not allow witness to handle it..

The defendant pleaded "not guilty "' to all charges.

The Case Outlined, Outlining the case, Mr. Andrewes said that the two summonses were brought under section 33 of the

Railway Ordinance, under which every person who wilfully obstruct- ed or impeded any servant of the Company in the discharge of his duties was liable to be fined a sum not exceeding $100. In a book of rules, made by the Administrator of the Railway, under section 39, aub

Mr. Prior (in cross-examination): Why did you want to see his

Board assures itself before making any grant that the broad interests of public health will not in any way be prejudiced.

Question: Should the water cur- riage system be encouraged in tenements houses1

Mr. Wong Kwong Tin's Views. Mr. Wong Ewong. Tia asked for permission to propose an amend ment. He said it was apparent that the matter of water closeta was be- Answer:-This is a matter of ing made a lever to force owners to policy for the Board, as a whole, bring their property up to date. to determine. The view of my de-

That, to his mind, was a wrong partment-which, is endorsed by the policy to pursue. One could not Director of Medical and Sanitary very well condemn a house for fall- Services-is that a policy of cautiousing short of modern hygienic sta progress is the proper one.

dards and then deny the owner of Question:Will the

it an opportunity of improving it. President Surely, he thought, the desire to kindly describe the procedure at instal & water closet pointed to # tending an application for the in-spirit of progress and should, Witness: Mr. Brayfield. has a

stallation of water cloacts? very great sense of humour. Heed to complete an approved form; that, no water closet is better than Answer: The applicant is requir. therefore, be encouraged. To say ould travel third class and go to submit a plan and furnish parti

a misused water closet might be arst class. That is my impression culars regarding the adequacy of true, but why should it always be of Mr. Brayfield.

Mr. Prior Do you know that the proposed source of water supply. Presumed that those who had access

ticket 1

Witness: Because it is my duty... Mr. Prior: Did you ever doubt Mr. Brayfield had a first class

ticket 1

sertion 2, it was stated that any Mr. Brayfield had his ticket taken ticket issued would be governed by that set of rules and the Railway away from him 18 months agat Ordinances. One of the rules stated Two inspectors took it away from that Every person shall, when rehim and did not give it back to quired to do so, show his ticket to till the end of the journey: any railway official duly authorised Did you know that!

to examine the same and shall deliver such ticket to any railway official duly authorised." Another rule stated that all tickets are and shall remain the property of the Administrator," Mr. "Andrewes submitted that. he mentioned this rule because when the facts of the

it.

Witness: I have never heard of

the

usual

Question: What is period which must clapse between the receipt of the application and its final submission to the water closet sub-committee for considera-

tion ?

Mr. Prior: Mr. Brayfield is paid special attention by the ticket col-application. The time which must

lectors.

Witness: Why?

Mr. Prior I don't know why. Witness: Well, he has acted in such a manner that a number of people may pay attention to him. I have reported Mr. Brayfield on several occasions to the Manager.

case were given it would be clear that Mr. Brayfield, whose impres sion was that, having bought a ticket, it was his property, was not

Mr. R. Baker, Manager of the applicable in this case. Going far- ther, Mr. Andrewes mentioned that Kowloon-Canton Railway, also gave any passenger, if he should be evidence and said that all the ticket found, upon examination, to be in collectors and inspectors had stand- possession of a ticket which shoulding orders to collect, examine or be so mutilated as to present difpunch tickets. ficulties in recognising the ticket, Mr. Prior (cross-examining); Ex- that passenger would be regarded cept on one occasion, Mr. Brayfield as not having paid his fare. *

never travelled without a ticket. Dealing with the events that led

Mr. Baker: I can't remember. to the summonses, Mr. Andrewes I think it is more than one occa- said that he would call Li Yau sion.

Answer: Straightforward cases are normally placed before the Committee within a month of the elapse between the application and the final decision mast necessarily depend in each case on the number of references back for further in quiry which the Committee fads necessary.

CORRESPONDENCE.

A CYNIC ON. CURRENCY.

[TO THE EDITOR OF TH" "HONG LONG DAILY PRESS."]

am

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were bound to misuse it?

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FOUR FILIPINOS NOT SO FORTUNATE.

When two American stowaways,

named A. J. Frazer and J. H. Peters were charged before Mr.

Whyte Smith at the Kowloon Magis- tracy yesterday morning, they were saved from being imprisoned by the ship, the ss. Maunawili, offered to fact that the local agents of the

repatriate them.

The two Americans, together with foar Filipinos charged with the same offence, addmitted the charge. Inspector Ogg said that the four Filipines were found with members. of the crew who were also Filipinos. They were not discovered until the ship was at sea, while the two Americans had hidden in one of the life boats. They gave themselves

uo after the vessel had sailed from Manila.

In the present case the objection was that there was no scavening lane, and there was opposition to the laying of a soil pipe beneath, the ground floor surface. Wong said his submission would be that a cast iron soil pipe four inches in diameter, embedded in a sufficiently thick layer of con- crete, thus forming another pipe with an outside diameter of about twelve inches, and a four-inch thick concrete slap on, the floor surface would be sufficient to stand strain and to prevent the emission of noxious gases. There ould not pos sibly be any insanitary effect, and such a method of scavenging must be conceded

Continuing, Inspector Ogg men- be decidedly tioned that the captain of the superior to the bucket system."

Mr. Wong closed by saying that Mamawill wanted to take the two Americans back to the United the opinion of the Medical Officer of Health was invaluable, and he venThe Consul had been consulted and States as members of the crew. tured to suggest that greater regard. should be paid to the opinion of one admittedly well versed in mát. ters pertaining to public health. He" added that the President's re marks in regard to tuberculosis gave added renson for the water. Borne system being better in every way than the opon bucket system, and in the latter case there was the danger of fies acting as carriers of disease.ren

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Supporting Mr. Wong's remarks Mr. Chau said that, in his opinion, the objections were not sufficient to justify the refusal of the ap plication, especially as the Medical Officer of Health was in favour of granting it.

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It might be explained, adid Inspector Ogg, that the American defendants had arrived at Manila on board the President Jackson, from which ship they had got their discharge on the under- standing that they would secure employment. They had worked for firm but that firm had failed and the men were stranded, PA

Leung, a ticket collector, who was Mr. Prior: The Railway adminis on duty on May 8, punching tickets tration are always after Mr. Bray for the 5.40 p.m. train leaving Taim held, they are always worrying Sha Tsui Station. Li was standing him. between Nos. 5 and 6 platforms

A Sense of Hamour, when Mr. Brayfield came along and

Magistrato: According to Mr. produced a ticket in his right hand, Wingard, he is always worrying between his thumb and fore-finger. them. Mr. Brayfield has a great The ticket collector, continued Mr. sense of humour, Mr. Winyard said. Andrewes, would say that it was He might travel first class with a covered to a large extent, and he third class ticket to keep them chaš. could only read a portion of the

ing him. words that appeared on the ticket.

Mr. Prior (to witness): The chief ter is not a very helpful contribu Mr. M. K. Lo said that the distreating them very generously and The ticket collector asked to see reason why. Mr. Brayfield worries tion to the discussion of our cur- the ticket, as he was not certain you is he is always trying to purrency troubles. It would be more whether it had been previously suade you to do certain things to the point if he showed (1) that used. Mr. Brayfield refused to which he thinks should be done" on hand over the ticket.

the Railway. Continuing, Mr. Andrews said, Your Worship will see that the punch is so constructed that it will not operate unless a considerable amount of the ticket is exposed,"

Mr-Brayfield then boarded the train with his ticket unpunched.

The matter was reported to the Railway authorities by Mr. Win yard, and as a result the summonses were issued. ho tum diu tik

Mr. Baker: He has not given mo that impression.

Mr. Prior: Has he suggested that tho latrines at. Taipo should be kept cleaned

Mr. Baker: Yes, he has done so. Mr. Prior told Mr. Baker that till a few days ago no disinfection was put on the bucket of excreta.

Mr. Baker: I had a fetitious re- port from Mr. Brayfield a few days ago, When our officers visited the latrine, they found that the report was anfounded.

a gold currency would benefit the Colony, and (2) how the new stan dard could be adopted with the least risk and expense. ED.]

him into Court. He had read the rules and had abided by them through thick and thin.

submitted that that was the reason

His Worship pointed out the seriousness of the offence and ad- dressing Fraser and Peters, said he supposed both of them must realise that it was a dishonest thing to do; to steal a passage on board the ship. It was not playing the game. Fortunately for them the respon sible authorities of the vessel were

question, and while he was in en- cussion raised a very important were going to have them repatriat- tire agreement with the President,

ed to America.

His Worship anid that he would he was cot prepared to my whether simply register a caution, against the refusal of an application acted them so that they could return to as a lever to retard the realisation the ship, which, according to Ins of modern buildings He thought pector Ogg, is leaving Hong Kong it was unfortunate that all the for America to-day. mcmbers were not present to dis- cuss that important matter

he sanctioned on the following con- ditions being observed

have not been ordered by the If the premises affected Building Authority to be de- molished.

His Worship said that with re- gard to the case of the other four- Mr. Lo continued that it quat men there was no proposal made, Refused to Dellver Ticket.

not be assumed that there were and they were not in such a for- The ticket collector reported the

Mr. Brayfield related an experi-

racial feelings seeing that the ques tunate position, the company not matter to Mr. Winyard, who board- Mr. Baker: We have inspectors ence which he bad some 18 months tion was being taken up by Chinese having offered to keep them on ed the train, and between Yaomati to do that job I cannot be ex-ago when he bad his ticket taken members and the applicant also board the ship. and the tunnel he went up to Mr. pected to look at the latrines every away from him by an inspector. He worried him was the general prin with the alternative of one month's happened to be a Chinese, but what He therefore fined them 850 each, Brayfield, who was sitting in a first day class carriage, and asked him to Mr. Prior: Surely, if you heard why he refused to deliver his ticket ciple of the whole matter. The hard labour in default. show his ticket. Mr. Brayfield held a latrine wore in a bad state, you to the railway acrvants, question of an adequate water sup the ticket at an arm's length from would give consideration to the re- Mr. Winyard and refused to deliver port?

Mr. Brayfield): Do you regard this plications, but he thought applies Mr. Andrewes (cross-examining ply governed the granting of ap tions should not be refused unless him the ticket, saying that it was

prosecution as unreasonable ? his property.

Mr. Brayfield: : I do.

there were good reasons. He was Mr. Andrewes stated that reports moet reluctant to differ from the had been made to the Manager that sub-committee or the Director of Public Works, but if Mr. Wong Mr. Brayfield bad not been comply Kwong Tin would bring forward ing with the regulations and the number of times he had been men- motion at the next meeting for told the Court that he had been. Evidence was then given by Mrtioned to the Manager had been discussion before the full Board. employed for over

ver a year and Brayheld, who said that he handed recorded. It was alleged tant with hoff water for the pa ang loketa, vas part of his one ticket to the ticket collector by short period it was reporter journing the rondter(3) 16 the applicant Bunching routine work. At about 6.40 p.m. at Kowloon, and the latter should that Mr. Brayfield had not been

takça to comply with the existing on May 8, he was on duty when he have had no difficulty in punching able to produce his tickets.

Mr. Wong Kwong Tin agreed to

relations to the manner of cons this procedure and said he would

struction and maintenance."............ noticed Mr. Brayfield coming into its

move the following motion at the Members of the Board present at next meeting

Page the meeting were the Hon. Dr. A. That this Board regret the R. Wellington (Director of Medical necessity for the continuance of the and Sanitary Services), the Hon present crude, bucket, system of red Mr. H.T. Creasy, C.B.E. (Director moving night-soil and recommends of Public Works); Dr. W. V. M. that applications for water closets Koch, Mr. Wong Kvong Tin, Mr. [Continued at foot of next column). 3. K. Lo and Mr. T. N. Chau.

Li Yau Leung, ticket collector,

Mr. Brayfold in Box,

* Mr. Brayfield, however, denied the Station from the direction of Mr. Brayfield said that be studied the allegations

the Star Ferry Wharf. He held a the rules of the Railway Company After hearing of further evidence, ticket between his thumb and his very carefully because he had the Magistrate convicted the de index finger hiding considerable realised the attitude which officials fendant on both charges-and-fined portion of it. Addressing Mr. of that Company had adopted to him on each count Brayfield, he said. Ticket, wards him. He stated that it ap please!!! Mr. Brayfield presented peared that they were trying to get his ticket and replied "punch it!" (Continued at foot of neat column)

Hearing of the third charge against the defendant was fixed for Wednesday, June 11, at 2.15 p.m.

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