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NEW. "ADVERTISE- MENTS.

CHINA COAST OFFICERS'

GUILD.

THE HONG KONG DAILY PRESS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 1929.

WEATHER REPORT.

Yesterday's weather report, fore. Royal Observatory at 6.30 p.m.,

COW & GATE stated:

ORDINARY GENERAL MILK FOOD

AMBERING will be held at

the GUILD OFFICE, 67, Des Vac ROAD CEXTEAL (DAVID Hossz), on MONDAY, 18TH NOVEMBER, 1929.

at FIVE O'clock, P.M.

BUSINESS-General,

All Members are requested to attend,

T. T. LAUBENSON,

Hranch Secretary.

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HONG KONG JOCKEY CLUB. THE HALF YEARLY GENERAL MEETING of VOTING MEM. RERS will be held in the JOCKEY CLUB ROOM, Hoso KONG CLUB Axxxx, on MUNDAY, 18TH NOVEM BER, 1929, at 5.15 PM.

By Order.

C. B. BROWN,

Secretary. Hong Kobe, 1st Nor., 1929 [8577

THE RAUB AUSTRALIAN GOLD MINING CO., LIMITED (INCOLPORATED IN QUEENSLAND),

NOTICE OF DECLARATION OF INTERIM DIVIDEND

TOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that An INTERIM DIVIDEND of 15. D. Per Ebare on account of the Your ending 3lat MARCH, 1930, has been declared by the Directors of the in. BRANE, Payable to Company Shareholders on the Registers RXISBANE SINGAPORE on THUES- DAY, 19TH DECEMBER, 1929.

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NOTICE 1S ALSO HEREBY GIVEN that the SINGAPORE TRANSFER REGISTERS will be CLOSED From THURSDAY, 28rm NOVEMBER To THURSDAY, 12TH DECEMBER, 1920, Both Days inclusive, for the Preparation of Dividend Warrante.

By Order of the Board, DERRICK & CO., CHARTERED ACCOUNTANTS, Local Secretaries..

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CHINESE LANGUAGE SCHOOL

Now CLASS for BEGINNERS in the Study of Colloquial CANTONESE will Shortly be Formed. Full Particulars may be obtained from the Undersigned.

M. F. KEY,

Secretary. Hong Kong, Nov. 14th, 1929. [8032

ST. STEPHEN'S, COLLEGE,

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The anticyclone over Korea has dispersed and another anticyclone

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Local Forecast:-N.E. winds, fresh, cloudy, some drizzley or light

rain.

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HONG KONG, NOVEMBER 18, 1029.

THE TYRANNY" OF GOLD.

SEVENTEEN of the most important

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The expense of maintaining a free gold market, the burden of which- a high bank-rate-in carried by industry, is too great for this coun- try, to bear unless we reconcile onr- selves to becoming a second-class or third-class industrial Power. An

News and Views.

Two entes of typhoid and one of small-pox were reported on Friday. All-three patients were Chinese.

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Two tubes of radium, containing The Burien Courier has followed- the example set by the Berliner | five miligrams and worth about Tageblatt last year and adopted£133, which could not be found Roman type in place of Gothic, after an operation at Sunderland The other daily newspapers still use Royal Infirmary, were discovered, the German script, but two indus- after an exhaustive search, in the trial journals reflect the growing drain of the operating theatre. It practice of the business world by was feared that the radium had been using Roman, type.

put into an incinerator and tipped with ashes into the sea, but it was located in the drain by an electros- Work is rapidly going forward cupe, a delicate instrument which on the largest ship to be constructed was secured from Armstrong Col

Spain-the Cabo San Antonio. lege, Newcastle. The tubes were When completed the vessel will disintact The forthcoming marriage is an-place 10,500 tons, and its Diese! nounced between Mr. Edward John motors will give it a cruising speed Hackin, master mariner, in the of 17 knots. It will go into the service of Messrs. Butterfield and service of the Mediterranean-Brazil Swire, and Misa Florence Banks, River Plate Line. tencber at Raffles Girls' School, Singapore.

It is notified in the Government Gazette that Mr. E. R. Dayey re- increase of 1 per cent. of the bank-sumed duty as Government analyst

on November 7. rate-if maintained for one year in order to attract foreign short balances and thus enable the Bank of England to protect and increase its gold reserver-costs alone, in financing bank bills, commercial

A cabin monoplane "embodying bills, bank advances, Treasury bills, The Hong Kong Boxing Associa-serveral radical departures from tion's first Tournament has been conventional design, is being tested and foreign balances, the sum of fixed for Saturday, December 7. It secretly in America. It is known £25,000,000. This expenditure is is hoped to arrange a match, of 18 as the Alfaro, built by an aeronau rounds, between two Royal Navy tical designer of that name in incurred in order that the Bank of heavyweights, Mann of HM.S. Cleveland. The principal feature England may increas its gold re- Cornwall and Rowles of H.M.S. of the ship's design is that the Marazion, both of whom have expilot may increase or decrease the serves by £90,000,000- um auf-cellent records. The fight will be lift of the wigs by changing the

for the Hong Kong championshipeurvature in them. ficient to justify a reduction in the belt. bank-rate in the absence of stable exchange rates. We have to pay for the gold we buy," but we pay in charges alone more than the gold is worth. It certainly cannot be

The Versatile Prince."

The following passengers landed hore from the 5. President. Monroe:-Mr. Chno Yick Hing, Mr. John A. Chapel, Mr. and Mrs. Norman R. Coleman, Mr. Willehm Dohner, Mr. Richard Down, Mr. Bert Gottlieb, Mr. and Mrs. Sidney R. Gotts, Mister Ronald Gotts, Mr. and Mrs W. D. Guy, Major Wm. R. Henry U.S.A.. Mrs. Wm. R. Henry, Mr. Higginbothau, Mr. Ho Wing, Miss Gertrude Ho, Mrs. Doris M. Hopkins, Miss Margaret R. Hunter, Miss Dorothy F. Hun- ter, Mr. Paul B. Lewis, Mr. Liang Kin, Mr. Ling Ling Peo, Miss Isabella Y. Miller, Mr. Harry L Perry, Mr. K. Schmidt, Miss Stella. M. Saward, Mia, Elizabeth Squier, Mr. Harry Town, Mr. D. S. Wylie.

More Bloops.

The Observatory returns for October show that the average mean Magic is a newly added item to temperature was 76.5, the highest the Prince of Wales' repertoire. At being 88.1 and the lowest 69.5.

a recent party at York House, the There were 258.6 hours of sunshina Prince astounded his guests by There is a growing belief that and 0.140-inch of rain, whilst the two hour demonstration of sleight something will be done to balance average humidity was 60. Theof hard and magical tricks. He decline in cruiser construction by associations of manufacturers, to considered sound finance. The free maximum gust velocity as recorded then revealed that he had beca tak- the building of a considerable num

by, the Dines-Baxendell anemographing lessons from a well-known con-ber of sloops. The order to lay was 37 miles per hour on October jeror. The King heard of his son's down two of these vessels in Royal 14. The rainfall for the month performance and immediately de- Dockyards is not any indication of of October at the Botanical gardens manded that the Prince should ap- was 11 of an inch on days and pedr at the Palace for a "com the same at Mount Kellet, 13 of an mand performance." Afterwards it inch was registered on days at is reported the King pronounced the demonstration "excellent." the Royal Naval Hospital.

Those who have witnessed the

gether with sixty leading individual industrialists, have presented a memorandum to the British Govern- ment, urging the need for establish- ing a new credit and financial policy if Great Britain is to retain her position as an industrial nation. It is pointed out that Lancashire could-and should-produce ·2,000

gold market would appear to be an expensive luxury when visualised in this way."

"The Geisha."

Problems for Linguists.

American visitors to Berlin some times provide English-speaking members of the population with hard nuts to crack, as the follow

of future policy, because these ships, along with two others to be constructed in private yards, were, provided for in the last Navy Estimates, framed when the outlook for reduction of naval armamenta.

which followed the Armistice protesta

wore mado against the wanton waste of per- fectly serviceable craft of this class and there is no question that the Admiralty have since regretted the ruthless policy on the part of those then in office. The modern shop is

Readers interested in the subject will recall that the League of Nations some time ago appointed a special delegation to examine and A certain amount of "scroung-Prince in his tricks say he has an was very much. moré nebulous than ing generally occurs during a fire amusing and inexhaustible store of at present. The scop can never be a substitute for the light cruiser for report upon the causes of fluctus and in the case of the outbreak at patter which is as captivating, as tions in the purchasing power of 8, Jervois, Street, last week, the hs conjury. His best audience, how any obvious reasons But for peace- Elizabeth. Whenever she sees her adequate type, and the Navy could light fingered men. According to million yards more of cotton goods gold, and their effect upon the Kwong Sang silk firm suffered from ever, is his little niece, Princess, time service she is a very useful and

economic life of the nations. The te shop manager, he removed 83,400

Unele David she immedintely well do with many more of these especially OSI overseas per annum than it is producing League recognised that this ques-in notes from the safe when the demands a new "trick." It is re-vessels,

Our ability to produce at com- tion was one of the greatest import alarm of fire was first givesi, but called that King Edward was very stations. During the scramble of petitive prices has to be sacrificed ance-so important, indeed, and so was forced to leave behind silver fond of magic, and was quite ex-scrapping

coins and a number of jewellery Fert in card tricks. in order to suit the convenience of involved, "that only by the widest boxes. When the building was in- the present monetary policy.". If international inquiry, carefully spected after the fire the safe was

articles had disappeared. an attempt were made to return to prepared and methodically carried open, and 81,000 in coins and other the pre-war volume of production-out, would it be possible to make the movement would be an immed any really useful contribution to a

"The Geisha will be produced iate failure, owing to shortage of solution of the problem. Pending

the result of the League's inquirica, at the Theatre Royal by the Philing story shows. An American sat and purchasing power. is may be noted that, so far as harmonic Society on December 14. Valuable cotton-mills and machinery British banks are concerned, it is 16, 19, 20 and 23 at 9.15.

more credit has been made available er 18 at 4.30 p.m.

wanna guide. The waiter beamederease of displacement. so as to pre- cause of the necessity, on the part to trade and industry since the war.

with satisfaction at getting an op-serve all her other features, she of the joint-stock banke to liquidate Further. it is claimed that in no Scouts as Firemen.

portunity to practise his English, might be made perfectly fit for over- their frozen credits. "Finance, country in the world are banking

Rover scouts of Freshwater, Isle sped out into the Linden, and pre-seas duties. Her average speed of instead of being the handmaiden readily than in Great Britain. Assured to meet a local want by form with the word " Guide in gold cough for "police" work, Her facilities provided more cheaply or of Wight, about a year ago endearently returned wth one of those 16 kote would be valueless to a

but large men, wearing peaked caps present-day cruiser, ST. JOHN'S CATHEDRAL.

of the producing trades, is their for the alleged tyranny," the TOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN master." Against 'this "tyranny of bankers declare it is only when ing themselves into a volunteer fire letters, who are officially licensed to armament of tim guns is heavy

bigade. They secured a NOTIC OR bat An EXTRAORDINARY gold vigorous protest is made, by its inability to follow success. hand hose and other appliances, as

trade over-reaches itself that finance, hand hose and other appliances, as ply, their trade in that thorough enough for any sort of work in fare. As the little procession ap- which she would be called upon to HOLDERS and SUBSCRIBERS will together with a request that the fully, appears to lay a restraining menced practices. The effort was proacted the American's table its use her weapons. Notwithstandings on THURSDAY, 21ST INSTANT at 5.30 Government should deal with this hand upon business-but finance, not taken too seriously at first, but occupant looked up, registered faint the foundering of the Valerian the it is said, has no option in the in May, in spite of the old-fashion- surprise, and asked: What's sloop is a staunch sen boat; indeed, question as a matter of extreme matter. As for the bank-rate and ed and faulty equipment, they this "The guide, sir," said the for her size there are gone better in urgency, and not be content with gold reserves, it is pointed out that saved adjoining properties when a thoughtfully I guess I meant ale very useful in the essential work "Oh," said the American, the Navy. In wartime she would the customary slow-moving methods the former does not move more of cinema was burned down, and beo-plan. But what did be really of minesweeping,

a result of varying amounts of ple woke up to the value of these. of Royal Commission.

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wartime product totally distinct from the earlier type of this classi festion. She was designed exclu- in a café in Unter den Linden, sively for service in home waters, drank coffee, tend the Saturday which means that she is not bast Evening Post, and summoned a suited to hot weather service. But

are going out of production be-argued by bankers that not less but There will be a matinee on Decem-little waiter; to whom he said:"I with a comparatively trißing in-

There can be no suggestion of Rolehevik influence behind this re- markable memorandum, nor has it been hastily prepared to domestic political exigencies.

It

second-

waiter.

bullion in the vaults. That is a self-appointed young fireman. Now at a map?... factor, certainly, but not the only C130 has been raised by public sub-

one. Another is the knowledge inscription, and the Rovers are to be Defects of the English. the possession of the Bank of Eng properly equipped with fire-fighting

which will be held in the PENINSULA Walk from the Team Station and cintions, the Cotton Spinners and and business-men no less than bank.

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Looking Back 25 Years.

good

The Criminal Sessions were to

have come on to-day, but there is

a clean calender for the Srst time

far over eight years. His Lardship the Chief Justice will be prerel this morning with a pair of white gloves-Hong King Daily Press, November 18, 1004. Looking Back 50 Years,

land concerning the state of business apparatus. Recently their plucky Sir Henry Hadow, Vice-Chan- in that country and also in coun- meet

tries with which Britain does busi-werk at the cinema fire was officially cellor of Sheffield University, giving nces. When conditions are healthy.cognised by the Boy Scouts' Asso- the concluding address at the con- represents conclusions reached after the Bank can allow its stock of gold ciation in the award of a certificate ference of industrialisis at Balliol Hon. Secretary, an investigation which was started to fall lower than would be wise of merit, signed by Baden Powell, College, Oxford, recently, touched recording admiration of their ex-upon national and individual de ample of the Rovers' motto fects. We could not deal with the at the beginning of this year, and when business conditions are bad.

Some weeks ago it was announcedService." Under the instruction questions presented to us by indus concluded about a month ago. The that Mr. SnowDrs had appointed of Chief Officer Shields, of the New try and commerce, nor human life, signatories include the Federation Committee to investigate this pors Fire Brigade, the lads have he said, unless we cleared our heads of Master Cotton Spinners' Assn.question of the flexibility of finance, become highly efficient firemen, and of the idea that we were going to are now officially recognised as the get the worst of the bargain. Every

A spectacle very frequently seen in our streets is the native proces ers will await the findings of that local brigade. The district wae nation had its own peculiar defects, Manufacturers Association, the Committee with great interest, formerly served by the military and there were one or two English sion. These processions are of three Society of Motor Manufacturers Meanwhile, it will not be inappro-brigade, but, the troops were with defects which stood in the way of kinds: the idolatrous, the deceased elear thinking. He would specify ancestor, and the wedding proces (British section), the Machine Tool Priate to mention another aspect drawn after the war.

of this very important subject of

our extraordinary power of with- sion In all the material is the Association, the

holding attention. He knew of no same, or varying very little, except British credit-an aspect which deliberately Trades Wool Federation, the Manchester disregards the existence of gold. The Cheque Caricus,

nation which had such a power of in the matter of the gilded chair, The Independent Labour Party Of course the recent special letting statements flow off its back. which in the idolatrous procession Association of Importers and Exurges an inquiry into financial scrutiny of cheques by the Bankers' It came from our natural indolence, is open, and contains the idol or a porters, the Sheffield Chamber of policy on the lines suggested by Clearing House had not, as was our disinclination to take trouble tablet representing him. In the do- Commerce, and the National Union Lord MELCHETT, who has come to jestingly supposed, the object of It was a common saying in England ceased ancestor procession, the prin

the conclusion that gold and the tracking down those haphazard folk" the curse of work". It was cipal contains a gilt tablet contain- of Manufacturers. Individual sig gold standard are equally useless who sign away money on the first national pride to think that indol-ing the posthumous name or style natories include the chairmen and in these days Briefly, the L.L.P. thing handy instead of on the re-ence was one of our possessions, give him by his family after his directors of many large companies, argument is that the issue of money ynlation cheque form, Naturally a There were cases when we would decenze. This tablet is termed a should depend-not on the amount bank is concerned only with getting rather do nothing than take trouble. liang pai, and hence originates, the among whom are several members of gold in the hands of bankers, or a clear order to pay, and the You heard people who inveighed term of derision, frequently employ- of the House of Lords, so whatever even on gilt edged securities in their material on which the order is writ- against the Government, and whend towards chair-coolies when four explanation there may be of this possession-but upon the producten affects it not at all. A cheque they had finished their invective and of them are seen carrying a little tivity of the nation. Instead of drawn on a piece of wood has been you asked "Which way did you boy or a very light small foreign emphatic outburst against modern the amount of money limiting the unly paid before now, and to name vote last time they at once turn tolpan In the wedding procession, methods of finance, it is impossible amount of goods produced, the the linen articles that have served ed the conversation. There were de unlike the other two, the profusely to suspect the influence of MARX or volume of goods should limit the as the basis for drafts would merely fects which belonged to individuals carved and gilded chair of honour LENIN as having prompted the nc-

amount of money issued. This, it be to make a small laundry list. as such, and if they were to realize containing the bride is kept most is argued, would enable goods to Collars, cuffs, and handkerchiefs people's capacities they must realize jealously closed up, so that not a tion taken. Whether well-founded be distributed among people who have been utilised, among other the fundamental difference between glimpse of its interior can be seen. or not, it is simply, the protest of need them, and the banks would no things, but the latest piece of individuals. There was an organi-Indeed, so tightly closed are these longer be in a position to create originality in this direction.seems..zation which had been started in chairs that a bride has been known British business men who feel there credit. which, as a matter of fact, to be that reproduced a little while Sheffield which he thought had pos- to be removed from them either is need for close inquiry into the is created by producers and not by age in the staff magazine of the sibilities for good. They had many dead or a state of asphyxia result- The rest of the working of a monetary system which financiers Money should be merely Westminster Bank. It was "drawn" industries which had been encouring in death.

a ticket system to enable people to en a table napkin at a Savage Club aged to form (trade technical sacie materiel of these processions con- allegedly checks the production of exchange goods, and the only way dinner by Mr. A. F. Herbert in ties, and all those societies were sists of various more or less gild more wealth within the country into control money is to make it favour of Mr. George Stampa- invited to meet at the University, ed and decorated tables and sedan stead of encouraging such develop intrinsically worthless. This is the Bless him!" the drawer added in where they discussed and talked chairs, containing presents of small Socialistic conception of finance-- | parenthesis To make quite sure over all their particular problems, pigs roasted whole, fruits, cakes, but, of course, it is not the idea of that its origin could be verified Mr. Professors of the University attend- &c., and nasty, unwholesome-look- Mr. SNOWDEN to carry out reforms Herbert took the precaution (ored, and the whole debate was opening boiled ducks and great. These of the British Economic Federation of this character. What he is cons perhaps Mr. Stampa suggested it?) He believed it had done a great deal various tables, sedans, &c., &c. are regarding gold reserves and the crned about, is a general inquiry of having his signature witnessed, to solve some of the practical pro- both followed and preceded by a into all aspects of banking, finen- and still further to assist the bank blems of industry. Periodically ex- lot of ragamuffins and dirty-looking bank-rate: "The Bank Act of 1844, cial, and credit policy aa now sketched on the napkin portraits of hibitions of work, more especially coolies blowing clarionets or beating still the main charter of our finan- followed in the City, with a view himself, Mr. Stampa, and the two of the workmen themselves, were cymbals and tom-toms. In the more THE FAR EAST AVIATION CO., cial legislation, does not take into to discovering what are the effects of witnesses. He need not have held. A great City company had pretentions of these processions

porno in

count the vastly eltered airezm that policy upon British industry, troubled in that respect, for, two given money for prizes, not for there are also numerous flags, and 2ND FLOOR, ASTATIC BUILDING, stances which have arisen as a re. When the results of this investiga penny stamps having been litterary emaye, but for actual die the coolics baro theirinnga morgon QUEENS BOAD.

Horu Kono,sult of the war. Our present monetion are made known, we may be the "document went through the coveries, and inventions. He would less covered with tawdry or Ted and. tary policy in not designed to serve better able to judge where and usual channels in the most matter like to ace the idea throughout the white jackets-Hong Kong. Daily [2603 I the producing industries.

whether-any tyranny" exists: of-fact way.

country.

Press, November 18, 1878.

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