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CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DISCUSSIONS.

TYPHOON WARNINGS: WIRELESS TELEGRAPH: AND

"LIFE SAVING METHODS IN HARBOUR,

The Government has thereforn de- eidlichstes issue Huences for, the erection. of wireless stations its this country far camtumiration with the Dominipus Colonies and foreign countries 'subject. to the cowitinis necessary to secure British content and suitable arrange- ments for the working of the traile

At the same time, the Government has devided that it is necessary, in the interests of national security that there should be a wireless station in this country capable of communicating with theDominicus and owned and operated by the State.T

d stetion of this kind will therefore be erected as early as possible, and it will be available for commercial traffic as well as for service messages, Mr. EKIN: Is liere anything we qu de tô estimulate that

WIRELESS TELEGRAPHY. The CHAIRMAN: The Wireless facilities of the Galong are most unsatisfactory, and we shall be glad to learn what impiorê ments are the expected, and when, There is one aspect of this matter' I woul like to refer to, and that is communier- fon with Canton. With the ordinary cable not working and the wireless through the Chinese receiving system extremely inefficient and expense; we are pretiently cut off from telegraphic-cont munication. American nationals receive At the conclusion of the discussion of Mr. FLETCHER: If you would art I

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good service through the wireless of their Partior questions, between the Colonial ward a complaint, it would be easier to warships, whereas we have no such facili- Secretary (the Hon. Mr. 3. 65. M. Flet-have things satisfactorily arranged. Mrties. What is the difficulty with regard cher, C.M.C.) and the General Committee Fletcher added that it seemed to hint it to our ships, and cannot this be rome- and Shipping Sub-Committee of the fought to be possible to devise some died! If it is a question of shortage of Hongkong General Chamber of Com-ethod of broadcasting continuously staff, Surely this could be rectifèil. station in Hongkong and the Government. geareas repartet in the local Press throughout typhoon weather, so that

The Hai. Mr. HoLYOAK: If I may ilus- had suggested to them, that, the question recently-other questions reéted with į vajitains could pick up signals. He had shipping also came up far enusigieration, only to obtain a receiving set. He (Mr.trate the necessity for doing something be discussed between their London repre- viz, Typhoon Warnings, Wireless Tele- Fletcher) was attending a trial at the in connection with the Canton wireless sentatives and the Colonial Office, as the graphy and Lifesaving Methods in the Telegraph Office to see how far that kinda tergraph system, yesterday the first unter affected the proposed chain of news, of the Japanese disaster was passed | Imperial Wireless Stations. It was desir- of thing was feasible He thought a hetess the Canton by an Amerionfable to but forward some constructive There were present:

vance might be made on these lines. for

gunboat. This led to very extensive lays suggestions Tram Hongkong; hitherto of silk by Americans, British nation they had only enquired what the Imperial

The Cuataman; Can you give us any had to information whatever is to Governant intended to do. the extent of the disaster, nor could they communicate with Canton, so that the information as to the likelihood of tele- main part of the laying was done by graphic communication being restored the Amerieaus. British merchants subant!

Mr. Farréner: I mu afraid. I cannot tell you. We are fully impressed with the importance of that:

The Hau. Mr. FLETCHER said that the Marconi t'ompany had offered to build a

that they ought not to be put in that with Cantoını position. Information was supplied en- tirely through the Amerienn gunboaz.

Mr. D. G. M. Bernard Chairman, the example, in calling for hele featuring Hon. Mr. A. O. Lang, the Hon. Mr. P. like the Henry Kerick. Such a method II. Holyoaks, the Han. Me. A.. G. Stephen, I could also be nulapted to life saving, and Messi AS. D. Cousland, G. T. Elkins, | might be centred at the Harbour Office N. I.. Watson, T. t. Weall. Major R. R Mr. SUTHERLAND asked to what extent Young. Lieut. R. R. Beauchamp, R.N. the Observatory was in touch with Zika. (Members of the General Committer): wei now.. Mr. P. A. Cox, Mr. W. S. Brown, Mr. RS Sutherland, Mr. D. Taylor, Mr. W. G. thegin, Capt. C. B. Riges (Members of the Shipping Sub-Committee). "

Mr. SUTHERLAND; The Shipping Com- Visitors.-The Hon. Mr. A. 6. M. Flet mittee feel that the Observatory get the chếc, C.M.41, (Colonial Secretary), Cota-onlinary observations from Zikawei, but mader C. W. Beckwith. R.N. (Harbour it has never been possible to ascertain Master), Mr. A. Andierson (One of the whether the two Observatorigs exchange Engineers in the Public Works Depart-views ment) and Capt. W. Davison (Marine Superintendent of the C.P.8.),

The Secretary Me, D. K. Blair) and the Assistant Secretary Dr. M.-F. Kes) 'attended.

Mr. FLETCHER: It is most essential that they chuki.

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Mr. EDRING: Some messages are cepted and sent by ours Naval Authori ties, int 1 believe they are limited owing to the analluess of the staff. ̧*

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The Hon. Mr.. FLETCHER: No, it des pels entirely on the fighting.

Mr. SUTHERLAND: Or with Swatow The Hon. M FLETCHER: No that agnia is an illustration of the iniportance Lieut. BestenAMP; There is only one juf wireless installations. -- "perator in the gunboat aul messages can" only he passed at the time that he is en duty.

WIRELESS ON SHIPS.

Mr. FLETCHEL added that, as to the The Hon. Mr. HoLYOAK: Is there an arrangement by which a message de pestion of wireless installations on couste! spatched through the Post Offier would ing steamers, the more ships that had be received and passed ou by a British | wireless the easier it would be to collees Runboost?

Lieut. BeauCHAMP; it can be transmit data on which to issue forecasts. Wher Mr SenERLAND Between the twn weted from here at any time, but it can only a sufficient number of steamers had been

would get better reports than now, and it is just as important to Shanghai as to Hongkong.

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he received by the Canton guuboat when fitted, the Government desired to make the man is on duty.

Mr. FLETCHER remarked that the Cham. it compulsory to send reports of a brief her wrote on 20th March forwarding nature and at regular tinues to the Oliser. letter from the Chainber of Commerce in vatiny. Canton. He had made arrangements with the Commodore for messages to be sent. LIFESÄVING METHODS IN THE The Canton Chamber, however, approach- ed the British Consul-General who took! different view on account of the diff culty that would arise if application underwritinti

nationals.

HARBOUR.

The CHAIRMAN: There is one other prepoint: Is the Government doing anything with regard to life-saving methods in the

larbour!:

After further discussion. Mr. FLSTHER suggested that the Hongkong, Chiton and The Hon. Mr. FLETCHER: The Harbour' Master has put forward a proposal that installing wireless which would always he the Government should self the Stanley useful to the Company itself.

and buy a powerful tug with a view to The Hon. Mr. HOLYOK sail he was life-saving work and supplying the light sure the Company would always he will houses or the-Governor could keep the ing to discuss anything practicable.

TYPHOON WARNINGS.

Mr. FLATCHER invited the Chaunber to This subject, the Chairman of the

write to the Government on this subject Chamber Mr. D. G. M. BERNARD)'er-

It was equally important, that reports marked had received considerable atten- should be exchanged between Manila and tion from the Chaubers articularly dur-China The Government had asked the ing the just year, but the situation was Director to go whenever he wished to still nost unsatisfactory. Arising out of other stations and keep in constant touch | the Swatów typhoon, a lengthy report was · Mr. SETHERLAND remarked that certain

submitted to, the Government, and sjovej regrettabile incidents had occurred. Ship-Macao Steamboat Co. might assist by that tinc further repressintations have ping people wem "not in a position to been made. More frequent warnings were criticise meteorological "experts for was required, "and fewer auxatisfactory inci dents,There shiuld also be, in the pinion of the Shipping Sub-Committee greater readiness to supply information by relephone to Captains just abent to lease port. This subject was of the ut must inquntance to the Colony, and the | Chambers would like to know what had been done with regard to the recomenda. tions mule to the Government.

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it was only a suggestion but he would The Hon. Mr. FLETCHES remarked that take up the matter and go into it farther, The Harbour Maste haul mentioned to him the possibilities of wireless telephony One would think it worth the Stenship companies while to instal wireless, if only us an aid against piracy.

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it seems rather hopeless-I do not would be of any practical use, remember- as your view is--whether rockets ing that the storm is so extraordinarily violent. It seems doubtful whether much use could be made of apparatus of that kind. The Government is perfectly will- ing to test anything. Broadcasting would

"there" any desin to do so. But it was felt that the wetness was the way in skill un behalf of the Colony. Incidents which the lervátory staff used their had occurred which were absolutely ap palling. There was the case when, be cause they did not know where the typhoon was, they took the signal down. In another, case, the wrong signal was exhibited, and the other day, after the typhoon of August 18th. the black cross The Hon. Mr. HOLYOAK: Is the invern appear to be a sucans that could be use- was kept up a great deal longer than was mest prepared to maintain, a wireless Gilly "employed to call up a life-saving necessary, and at a time when the Colony, staff on such steamers? «

(f) bug, but even such a tug could not steun Mr. FLETCHER'said that the position of having been devastateil arid ships driven i The Hon. Mr. FLETCHER: I doubt to and fro in the Harbour in the height the Government in this matter was rather shore, it was "urcessary to have everyful whether the Govement could of the typhoon

craft out as soon as possible. He telethis: the cost should not be great.

The Hou. Mr. HoLYOAK suggested that ailifficult one because they were en phoned to the Observatory, being desirous The Hon Mr. FLETCHER, in reply to a some, experiments should he tried with tirely in the hands of experts, who ap. of getting lucches out go to the question, said that, for "communication rockets. Ife believed the ongoing" pered to differ very widely as to whit | Loungang, had asked why the black with ships, Capa D'Aguilar was the best could have been reached and that there ought or ought not to be done. The cross was still shown. The auswar he site, but not for a high-powered station. was time to reach it.. Chamber's main recommendation was "for received was Because the halyards have - it was proposed to put this in Gin Drink-i The Hou. Mr. FLETCHER: Our report a wireless station on the Pratas: Shoal jahed." He (Mr. Sutherland) asked ; ven"- Bay,

was that there was not time to do it. It which the Government took up at once Can't you send up a man neut it Mr. SUTHERLAND referred to recent intakes about 20 minutes to rig up the and suggested to the Chinese Government dosa and the answer was I will see stances of difficulty in establishing 'n brooches and the ropes and in that weather that this Government right pay for it, what can be done. This in a time of numication with Expe: D'Aguilar. Mr. it would probably take longer. It was The Shoal was Chinese Goverment:teï- | Crisis with a ships ashore! It was not FLETqyes replied that the station was; doubtful whether the crew could stand on ritory and the idea was that the station until 1 o'clock or later that the signal recently out of action but Mr. ScTHER | dock. should to worked by the Customs. The was removed.

1 rejoined that some of these difficul The HARBOUR MASTER suggested that a Chinese Government unwavered. nt 01:0 Mr. FLETCHER': Mr. Sutherland brought ties had occurred when the station was vessel was needed which could he kept at acknowledging the letter frout the Lega- dat incident to my notice and I enquired operating.

a bor, preferably the Harbour Office tion and stating that the necessity of of Mr. Claxton. He said he ilid not think The Hon. Mr. FLETCHER mentioned that lay, and which could steam, into the setting up the station was established and it safe to take down the sign before 230 the Government had de very careful typhoon. The great difficulty was in get- adding that the work woukl be done by, pan,, ami then be achied what Mr Suther enquiry into the question of that station. ting a tug out of shelter against the force the Iydrographic Bureau. A great point hund had said. I have sent a Minute on It was under the Post Office," and the of the wind. His idea would be to have had been gained in the admission that the subject to Mr. Sutherland.

Postumaster-General had no special know- a powerful tug lying at No. 7 huqy, to such station was necessary and ought Mr. SUTHERLAND: There seems to be a ledge of wireless, so that in practice the Lethere whenever the black sigısal was to be installed at once.

weakness between the Director and the station had been in charge of an -N.C.Q. | hoisted, to be fitted with wireless tele. The Chamber also suggested that a 4 man who actually works the signals. It an arrangement which had not been satis phous, and get her orders direct from the K.W Wireless Transmitting Set be in is a "question "whether there is any roonifactory, and had not been conducive to Harbour Office. There should be a stalled at the Observatory. It was not for a sort of Yennan of signals.

the best use of expensive apparatus par-modern stnall lifebont attached to her generally known that an apparatus 'exist Mr. FLETCHER suggested that at the chased for the station. Recently, the with the idea of doing of rescue work in ed at the Observatory but very little bad Observatory Must, the only need was a station was taken out of the control of the Harbour. If such & vessel had been been done with it although considerable coolic to boist up a signal as directed. the Post Ofive and handed over to the existence during the typhoon of August sums had been spent. On this matter: Capt. Brocs mentioned that the staff Public Works Department. When the th, a great deal, of rescue work could the Government was waiting for an expert at Hoft's wharf hail often been called export arrived, he believed that a more have been done, and in the 1006 typhoon from Home.

to help the Observatory with the modern and more powerful system would any Chinese were picked up alive 5 ar The Chamber also asked that the siguals because there was no man who be installed, and the question of improved a hours after the atomic Authorities of the Zikawej. Observatory I could climb up.

nïeans of communication between D'Agui- Mr. SUTHERLAND suggested that a tug be naked to transmit their storm warn- Mr. FLETCHER: They must have some lar and the Post Office would he investi- such as proposed by the Harbour Master ings by cable to Hongkong. As to this body, obviously. Perhaps the Harbour gated.

could be designed so as to be suitable for. an application had been made through Master could arrange something.

The CHAIRMAN: a the high-powered service as a relieving ship for, the Protas the French Consul for permission to send

stationed at Gin Drinkers' Bay to be Shoal. these messages free-from-Indo-Chim, and

exported in the near future 1

The Hairove Waren thought that to negotiations were proveeding with the

In reply, Mr. FLETCHEE quoted an anbe à practicable suggestion. “ Telegraph Company who were in com

swer given by the Prime Minister to a The Ilan. fr. FLETCHER Asked Capt. munication with their Head Office. The

question in Parliament on the 5th of Davison to express his views on the ques Government agreed that it was desirable

March Inst, as follows:--

tion of rocket apparatus. to have more frequent interchange of

Mr. Hund asked the Prime Minister.

"Capt. DivEsox said he agreed with messages, and negotiations to this end

whether he is aware of the disappoint Mr. Fletcher that it would probably be were progress.

ment felt in the Dominions at the delirnught into operation too late t to be of in announcing the policy of any use.

In further discussion, Mr. FLETCHER mentioned that the tavernment-was-jut ting wireless into both Waglan and Gap Rock lighthouses, to avoid alle troubles, Mr. COUSLAND suggested a different form of warning then the three bombs fired when a typhoon strikes the Colony: they were not heard on the Peak

The Hon. Mr. Hozroak remarked that thero were now no warnings issued on the Peak..

The Chamber also asked that the time signals of the existing evtle be modified, and Mr. Claxton, agreed that that would

The CHAIRMAN Baid that the Peak he necessary if additional observations Residents' Association had this question, were obtained. That question was there under consideration. « fure bound up with the question of addi- Mr. FLETCHER that the utility of the tional reports. The Evening Weather bomba was doubtful, but the Harbour. Report asked for by the Chamber had Master and they were heard in the Flar- been issued. With regard to telophoning bour.

to the Observatory for information. it was The CHAIRMAN thought that the reason Inid down by Sir Henry May, that all no complaint had bech made of the with- queries should be answered,

drawal of the signal at Gough Hill was Mr. EDRINE: We have an example dur- that residents supposed that 3 better ing a recent typhoon of the contrary,method was going to be substituted. Once a captain goes to his ship, he is Mr. FLETCHER agreed that a signal on cut off from the land for the period of the Peak was essential.

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the typhoon. One of our captaine rang It was agreed to leave this ducation to up the Observatory and asked for in- be dealt with by the Penk Residents' formation and the reply he got was "I am going to change the signals; watch the signala Obriously the Director knew then what the position was,

It was agreed to address a further letter to the Government on the subject of typhoon warnings.

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Majesty's Government in regard to The HARBOUR MASTER said that the wireless communication and whether Captain of the Loungey had expressed he can now state what that policy is 7 - the opinion that no earthly power coul

The PRIME MINISTER: The Policy to have helped him. In the force of the he adopted with regard to Imperial | wind the crew could not do anything, wireless communications has recently The CHAIRSTAN Byggested that this ques been under review by the Imperial tion be left to the Shipping Sub-Com- Communications Committer under the mittee to consider with a view to making Chairmanship of the First Lord of the practical suggestions. So far as could be Admiralty, and the recommendations of seen, Commander Beckwith's scheme wil that Committee have now been ap un excellent, one.. proved by the Government

The Hon. Mr. FLETCHER: It is very- In view of developments in the science, much of the lines of what the Commis of wireless telegraphy and other circumsion recommended after the 1900 typhoon. stances which have arisen since the late Captain Taylor recommended a lifeboat, Government, decided upon the policy of and the Commission recommended a tug, State operated wireless chain, it is and Cominander "Beckwith's proposal is not considered necessary any longer to a combination of the two. exclude private enterprises from parti- The proceedings concluded with an ex- rination in wireless telegraphy within pression of thanks to the visitors for their the Empire.

attendance.