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"PRICES OF FOOD AND OFHEL VICESSARIES.

The senior unofficial member asked whether the Goverment would look into

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THE BUIR-PESA HIND ANIS TRAFFLU

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THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 19TH, 1923

The hon member made some remarks in reference to Garden Road with which

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H.F. Tmx Clovgayon: Gentlemen,

in

the matter of fixing the price of food and

of our hm to be some small cemeteries have to thank you for the kind manner other necessaries. I am afraid I can I am in entire concurrence "I am an typhoon weather. These proposals are in which you have received, the Colonial hold out no hope in that connection. We owner driver and I know how dangerously outlined ant they will be put Budget and for your criticisms-with ponibly one or two exceptions which had an unfortunate experience during the that road is. It was largely due to my

were certainly made in a very helpful war. The thing was useless to us but instrumentality that the trees hare gone, Tu rather beneficial to the compradore bend I am in touch with the Director of Thers in one other point in endnection with spirit. Although I cannot entirely agree cause once the list came out they at once Public Works on the question now. As Shing Mun which comes again into the with them, I appreciate the goodwill anything below to the price the to the hair pin bend, that has been most general question of loan which will which hon members have shown in the

Carefully considered. The bend by touch on it at prosent sreept in my that

matter to the full The Colonial Secre list notified, and anything above the list Government. House, opposite Kennedy work will be carrive on piecement and sas

with most of the pointe they ignored. It is purely a question Road, is a place where all the water large sum will she required. We have tary has dealt with

wires seem to money enough to maka beginning and to raised, but I should like if I may-to think of supply and demand. Our sup-ins and electric

add one or two remarks on certain parti- ply is seriously curtailed owing to the congregato more would make the descent carry on for the present. disturbances in the neighbouring province too steep, A car went over, there

REPLY TO HON, ME. LOWE,

cular points As to the Police Forss, I and our demand is immensely increased only a fortnight ago. The same applies Now I come to the remarks made by the think the Colonial Secretary has shown by, the influx of wealthy refugees and by to the other corner. If you eut Hou, Mr. Lowe. (I think it is hardly fair for the good wages now being drawn by the way it becomes steeper and any to throw a lot of gurgs at my head with that the situation has improved materi working classes. You cannot control reckless driver goes straight over into out any warning and I confess I am quite ally and, of course, it is only within the prices unless you can control the supply te House Street. It has been consider unable to deal with them offhand.1 at its scurve. You might make the Dairyed. Personally I do not agree with have taken certain rates. He referred to last few months that we have got our full Farm put back milk from 15 to 12 cents the bon member as to the necessity the reduction in duties and I have attemp strengde from Weihaiwe, and we may

bottle, if you are prepared to face the fur employing European police on traffic bed to show that we are not overtaxed and hope for further

improvement At the subacquont lawsuit, but you cannot make duty except at centres where there is that, there is good reason to built up a Chinese farmer sell you a 60 cent likely to be a rush of chairs and ricksha reserves and to build up a steady rescue same time I am bound to say that it is chicken for half a dollar, and I think it coolies. Our motor trafic to us in this in order to make his figure more intelli. almost impossible to expect the Police. would be useless to do anything on that small island may seems immense, but if gible he gave a simile of a married man Foree to deal satisfactorily with crime line. The only alternative is for the you to any other city in the world must confess it may be perhaps because when the general public looks upon erine

in Hongkong who makes some money Goveromcat to buy in a dear and sell in you will find that it is merely nothing I have not a mathematical education a cheap market, anil'alter our experience at all. The real danger, is the slow-that the simile leaves me are confor

as a harmless amusement of their neigh In the rice crisis. when we found it essen-moving trucks. rickshas and so on, but than before. His pint is that a married bour which is no concern of theirs. !! tial, to do so, we cannot contemplate it is hoped that before long the fast man has a rising salary or som use the general public would support the undertaking anything of the kinit again. moving traffic will tend to drive them off test good fortune and he goes back to this

the street. If any driver of a car pro- wife, and we were stuck to his Police it might be possible to do more With regard to the hon. member's pre- and sounds his hora. I do not think clothes or something of that kid. That stantly find, when a robbery occurs, the

ceeds with an ordinary degree of caution get some of that money in the shape of than we do now. At present you con ferences for omnibuses to trams, I must there is any danger of any sort what being as prudent man would partie sadim inclined to agree largely with ever. That is purely a personal expres- spend his money on that, and would Chinese adopt the attitude of the priest what he sail, but there are various sion of opinion.

the partly invest it against his old age. If and the Levite and leave the matter opinions on the point, both for and

that is admitted take the Hongkong strictly alone. Then when you do get a against, and after very full consideration

Government In some cases, the Houg-† the matter has been put out for teader. The tenders are duo shortly and then we The senior unofficial member repre- kong Government makes profits, some of criminal almost in the act you have the shall see how the land lids. It is quite senting the Chinese referred first of all which, perhaps, due to exchange are not utmost difficulty in getting anyone to possible that the discouragement given to to the question of rent allowances for expected. What does it do? It pro- come forward to give evidence against frams in other parts of the world, accord the non-European staff and asked that a ceeds to embellish the Colony with piers him, and the number of people who inter- ing to newspapers. sent to us, may lead to beginning might be made for all officers and various, public works on every side no satisfactory tenders being given and of over ten years' standing. I do not sad like a prudent husband takes part fere either to persuade or threaten is then we shall have to resort to omni- think the Government can contemplate of that money and puts it by, like some larger than. I think. hon. · members buses. In any case the Government going quite as far as that at prescat. Unofficial members advise, for a rainy realise. I was somewhat startled by the undertakes to consult the Council before The subject is under consideration, and day. Take the opposite advice. The figures with regard to the proportion of it takes any decisive step in the matter, the Treasurer is working out certain hon member advises us that we ought recovered and stolen property, but it has figures in that connection. I do not to reduce our transactions and uses this, to be remembered that it is unfortunate- WIRELESS STATION." think we can do more than extend the simile Docs ha expect that man to go so extreme easy to get away with The next speaker was the member re-system which already applies to the back to his employer and say: "I de]

property here. Articles stolen presenting the Chambers of Commerce, senior European staff, namely of grant not want that extra salary: I have ton Hongkong to-day will be the next day in His main point was in connection withing rent allowance to a man who has his much money already coming in Or he Macao or Canton. Unless the theft is the high power wireless station. He family in the Colony. A man living pats the case to the manager," will reported immediately the chances of find- gives ca the history of the subject. but alone with his family in the country cannot handle your goods any more. I am ing it are negligible. I think therefore in its present phase it dates from a re-get along quite cheaply and is not hit making too much profit on it." I think that, considering the disadvantages under solution which he proposed in this Coun- 80 much. The question will be sym- that simile is entirely in favour of the which they are working, the police do cil in March 1010. The matter was then pathically considered.

course taken by the Government.

extremely well. referred urgently to the Colonial Omec,

The hon. member then said we had The Hou. Mfr. Pollock went on to refer REMOVAL OF THE UNIVERSITY. who had appointed a committee to study

no balance sheet. I can only say that to the question of fixing the prices the whole 'question; and in 1920 that com- The question of the removal of the this seems to me absurd. Our accounts of "food" Well, I think it is gener mittee reported recommending an Im-University will receive careful attention. are not keep in the form of a Bank's ally admitte that any Governmant perial wireless chain of State-owned At the present time the Government has accounts, naturally, because we put all our which has endeavoured to fix the xtutions, one of which was to be in Hong- no knowledge as to what the University cards on the table. I am sure that there prices of food within recent years has kong A commission of experts was then authorities think on the subject. The is no public company, bank or anything burned its fingers rather badly, and 1 appointed to advise as to technical de suggestion, to turn the hostels into Gov- else that does the same. They do not should be very sorry to expose the fugers Lails. They sent us a questionaire and ernicent questions has for me, tell you the salary of the chief manager of this Government to a similar fate. we gave them particulars as to sites and seat attraction, and the main build-or the cashier, as we do. We put these The Colonial Secretary perfcatly rightly so on, and they even got so far as to telling could no doubt be used for Queen's details in the fullest form and as clearly says it the maximum in this matter us of two stations-one for transmitting College, but what strikes me as an wo possibly can before the members. tends to become the minimum. Worse and one for receiving. Meanwhile de obvious objection is the fact that the If we hid All our working expenses and that that, when you are fixing the maxi- velopments in India, South Africa and University is so closely allied as regards salaries we then could easily presentoum price-unless you are controlling the Australia led to a modification of In its medical department with the Govern-to you a balance sheet which is exactly supply you have got to fix it at a price perial policy and the question of a Hong Civil Hospital. The students, of course a copy of that very loan account, but I which will enable the middleman to get kung station was postponed In March have their lectures in the University and am sure it would not be satisfactory to his stuff to the market at a price which will pay him I had some Inst, in answer to a question asked in their practical work in the hospital close members,

the House of Commons, the Prime Minis-by. So closs is the conection that it is ter, said that recent develop cat in the

touched on by three members, of loans, |

Then he came on to the qucation, trying to keep sales down to the figure slight experience during the war in science of wirless telegraphy, and changes

1t is suggested by the Hon. Mr. Lowe provided by a paternal government, and in the conditions in the Dominions and

that we should pay off our 6 per cent listine failures of the war, and the Hon. am boat to say it was one of the most Colonies, had led to a modification of the

loan. That question is under conside Director of Public Works will probably views of His Majesty's Government in

With regard to the Confucian schools ration but he is wrong, I think, in saying support me in that statement. connection with this State-owned wireless chain, and they no longer saw any ren- this is a matter which has always had I misrepresented the position to my The senior Chinese member raised the son why private enterprise should be the Government's warm support and Irrcent answer to his question. Our point about the removal of the Univer debarred from participating in wireless find there has been some little misunder Sinking Fund is well above the perity.As the Colonial Secretary says, telegraphy within the Empire. The standing on what has transpired. The cent margin and most of the money is there are very considerable practical Government proposes to take steps to Government in putting forward the Bill invested at 5 per cent or over. I was difficulties in the way because it is almost ascertain upon what terms private enter for the employment of children express referring in answer to that question, essential-in fact almost entirely essen- prise would work and operate a station the hope that the representatives of simply to the state of the Sinking Fund. tial that the medical school should be here. I may say that in 1931 the Mar- the Chinese would come forward with with regard to the inscribed stock I can close to the hospital, because the students coni Company approached us as to proposals for the education of the very see no reasons whatever again I am not get most of their practical training in whether we would grant them permission poor which, if satisfactory, it would a mathematical man-why we should pay the wards of the hospital. Moreover, we to mdertake this work, and we referred support, Well the Confucian schools in off a cheap 33 per cent. Joan in order to are bound by our undertaking given to them to the Colonial Office.

certain parts exactly met that want, but borrow at 5 or 6 per cent. for our public the Rockefeller Trust to provide them it is the practice of the Government to works. Why not record that as money with a number of beds in the hospital, THE LIQUOR "AND TOBACCO DUTIES." equip school and if the school is con- borrowed at 3 per cent, and continue The only way that I can see of getting The second point was in connection ducted in a proper manner to give half the public works out of the balance in over it is to leave the Medical Faculty with the reduction of liquor and tobacco the cost of running it, subject to our hands? We have these large fands where it is and move the others, a mes- duties, with which the Hop. Mr. Lowa report from the Inspector of Chinese and it seems to me quite senseless to sure which would probably give satisfac associated himself. I really think that schools. Well, there was a minunder | pay off a very big amount of money at tion to nobody. The matter is one to be hou, members do not know when they standing with regard to this when the law rate of interest and, on the other considered by the University. There was are well off They pay practically no last voto of $10,000 was made, and this hand, borrow a big amount at a high another point to which I attach much taxes here at all-no income tax, and money was applied partly to the opening rate interest. There are farge costs of importance and that is this: I believa even when they pay on their liquors and of now schools and partly to the ex-foan Rotations and our anime would force that China presents a remarkabic field on their tobacco they are happy in the penses of the old schools with the result up the market so that we should have to for educated women in the near future. assurance that they are paying consider that when it was spent certain schools pay much more than 1 per cent. for and I consider that the Hongkong ably less than they do in London. I am had to be closed That is not the inten- it

University is the source from which the astonished at the argument that an in- tion. The Government is prepared to He referred in passing to Constitu- supply of educated women should be very direct tax is a bad one. I thought it grant money to equip new schools and, tional Reform. I do not propose to be largely obtained in the first instance. If was generally accepted that one of the subject to their satisfactory management, drawn into argument on the subject. He that is so it is necessary to enlarge the points of a good tax is that unless you to give up to half the expenditure upon suggested that the official members University by allowing students to live you wish to emphasise the fact to the the cost of education. But you czanet frowned upon the movement. I for one, with their own relatives, course, for people an indirect tax is best; especially expect the Confucian Society simply to certainly do not. I was not aware it which I have always argued. I entirely ono easy and cheap of collection, and that open the schools with this money and was an Association to be frowned upon, agree with the arrangement made in the desideratus in exuitly fulfilled by this then leave the Government to pay the His last remark was in to the Widows first instance thr it should be a resi- tax on liquor and tobacco. It may in whole cost. If the Senior Unofficial and Orphans Fond. Mr. Hutchison dential University and I should be very quite another connection, the directors of put himself into touch with the Direc-what it is. With regard to Mr. Bray, which it is not necessary that it should forest hon. members to learn that, in Member representing the Chinese will has an ordinary pension-I cannot say any to see it cease to be one, but I

think it has now risen', to status in the Nanyang Tobacco Company--they tor of Education I think it will be poss- I may point out he was formerly in bare no objection to the publication of this to bring definite proposals before Hongkong, but left the service for six the wholly rea dentini, and I think we are the figures inform me that in the first the Council

or seven years and came back in 1918-losing a certain number of students be nine months of this year they have paid

1910, and therefore bis pensionation. There is no reason why we should in case of the cost of hostel accommoda nearly seven lakhs of deliurs in dupa KING'S TARK

to

naturally affected thereby. He was I Li (lovernment. No doubt your arge for Chinter in Kings Park. This request some other pension from there. I am cots and guardians subject to satisfac Then comes the questions of recreation believe in Nigeria, and I believe he has not allow young people to live with par- why the tax should be reduced. Take will receive consideration, but it must be not sure on that point either, but at for asurances especially lady students the duty on the more expensive Kowloon have, anifestingar, Subs in any rate his service for pension here was but the idea of having Lady students cigarettes, 31:30, and the cheapest 20 conts; they work out at three hundred the with all the have been

They are the Kowloon Cricket Club gery short. I think, Sir, I have, now University, on the south of the Island,) to the pound, and that gives less then a of which are being duprised swing The Hon. Mr. Foto: May I ask and the alternative of Cromen's hostels

raised in the discussion, ARNA Id on the better quality and less than one-tenth of cut on the inferior Recrin

is less practicable. I maclf should be one question arising from what has been be it turned out of quity Well the good wages paid en premises om Nathan Rond, and the Kaw said, with regard to the Railway-whe 2013 to as the University moved from able the poorer classes to Binoke icon Football Club,

its present position. The main objection, railway land. held on the Chinese section 1 The Hon. Mr. HOLTOAK My argu- These old-established clul as the pioneers The COLONIAL SECRETARY:

locality. As to that, it is not beyond mont was that you were charging a 50 of sport in Rowings. They have spent they are being continually detained. As tions may be removed before the students. Yes Sir the bounds of possibility that the distrac to 55 per cent, tax on liquor, which is great deal of money on their grounds and lately as yesterday urgent messages had For other reasons Unre is something to not reasoriable at all

Park as a present The Chinese back and we wanted then on Ocount I should like to add something to what ing to that point. It is considered ad are nowemurs in the field, and while we of the Chinese Festival. They managed the Colonial Secretary said as to the visable in view of the great uncertainity welcome them in every possible manner at last to send four coaches. as to the Opium revenue to lay down a we are providid fr large playing The Hon. Mr. POLLOCK: How many are astonished, equally with the Colonial taxation of drink anil tobacco. I was foundation of stealy taxation bringing grounds for them in Kowloon, as well as being detained now? w Secretary, to hear the sugation of the in a large sum of money so that if the for Europeans,

The COLONIAL SECRETARY I cannot Hon. Mr. Holyonk that indirect taxation oplum profits suddenly fall away wo PLOPOSALS AZ TO CARTELIES Bay of band should be in a position to view the situa As to cemeteries the probouk of the LE. THE GOVERNOR:

was bad. I think it in hion with equanimity without any sudden Government are at present in a very ten about a dozen. The Railway authorities torference with the Iron trade of the The Hou, Me HOLTOAK: It is an in- dislocation of our firmness. I will deal totive state. They ens practically that allure us they are not being used for port. Jater with that

burials abould take place on Lama 1 military purposes,

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deemed necessary to build a hostel right up against the Government Civil Hospital.

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