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HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE

£19

COUNCIL.

THE HOUSING PROBLEM. OUTLINE OF GOVERNMENT MEASURES.

on. Mr. A. G. M. Freresen, C.B.E., (Colonial Secretary).

Hon. Mr. H. E. Potock, K,C., (Alter- ney-General)

The COLONIAL SECRETARY Seconded and the Hill was read a first time.

to say that the large firms in this Colony are also beginning to realise that it is to their advantage to house their employés The Objects and Reasons state:-This in a suitable manner, and the Govern- Ordinance consolidates and amends the law ment will give them very encouragement relating to Places of Public Entertain in the matter of acquiring sites. The Ter remains, however, the third class to whom I have referred to, to whom the problem of

obtaining & reads 4

residence at

&

ti

rions one

Snow!

reasonable rent is THE POWERS OF THE GOVERNOR IN COUNCIL and so far as can be seen will blom long

become

an insuperable A meeting of the Legislative Council

action is definite is taken. Married men in This Colony

with incomes below some 8600 was held in the Council Chamber, yester to 8700 a month cannot get houses at day, at noon, There were present:- present of the size and convenienge essen- HIS LAUKELANGT THE OFFICER ADMINIs tial to health except at rents that are TERING THE GOVERNMENT (Hon, Mr. CLAUD of all due proportion to their in-

somes, It

2 c be said in England SAVERN, M. (I.).

EXCELLENCY MAJOR-GENERAL Frdinarily prudent man she

that the rons paid for his house by an should not exceed VINTRL (General Officer Commanding

eighth of his

I have n indow. rs in China).

hesitation in

ịn saying that there are mar- ried men here, now who are paying as much as a quarter and in some cases even through the operation of what was third of their incones in rent and taxes, C.M.G. known as the Local Shipping Control

Sche, whereby the Admiralty requca OB.E., tioned under its tar powers'bertain small Vessels employed on local trade routes, a (Captain-solerable aura of money was endised, This money represen: rofits, thrivel from ships owned by British subjects of British and

of Chinese race respectively, and it is proposed to use it for the direct

benrit

fit of the local British

tish and Chinese communities. The Secretary of Stat, has now authorised the expenditure of a portion of this money in the erre The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command tion of housing accommodation for per of H. E the theor Administering the sons of the British race, it being felt that

the money Governant laid upon the table Finanz; be

devoted to no better cial Minute de to bs and moved that use than that of endeavouring to mitigate the housing difficulty that has arisen.

rish. 3. W. CHATHAM, (Director of Public Workaj,

Hoo, Mr. E R. HALLIFAX, (Secretary for Chinese Affairs). Hon. Mr. E. D. WOLFE Superintend nt of Police).

Hon. M

LAU CHE PAR

Hon. Mr S. H. DODWELL

Hon. Mr. G. ALABASTER, O, B.E. Hon Mr. E. V. D. PARK

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Mr. A. D. BALL, Clerk of Council.

FINANCE

cas

ment, as contained in The Theatres Res nance being called The Places of Public gulation Ordinance, 190s, the new Ordi.

Entertainment Regulation Ordinance,

1919.

The principal aventions affected

Council then resumed and the Attorney, General moved that the Bill, as amended, be read a third time,

The COLONIAL SECRETARY seconded and the Bill was read a third time and passed,

MARINE STORES, PROTECTION ORDINANOR, 1919.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the second randing of the Bill intituled "An. Ordinance for the more effectual penter- In doing so, hes tion of Marine Stores, by this Ordinanes are:

aid:- It will be within the recollection C. To render public cinematograph of hon. members that on the last cension displays subjects to permit in when this Bill was before the Council it writing from the Captain Super was referred to the Standing Law Com intendent of Palies who shall not ittee and hon. members how have before of the proceedings of the report of them the give such jurit unless and until Law Committee on the Bill. H, the films and posters have been hers have also before them an amended censored and passed in accordancs copy of the Bill, dated July 8th, 1918, with Regulations to be made underbodying in italies the amendments. this Ordinance by the Governor which I propose to move in committee on in l'ouncil (lause 1.) (Clause G this BAL I will be remembered that (S)).

there was some discussion on the last occasion, raised by my hon. frionil who represents the Justices, on the correctness

62) To give statutory power to pre serib for to be payable in respect

After of such censoring (Clause 6 (0)).nl the use of the term hawker, (The opportunity is alser sker to consideration it was decided by the

Standing Law Committee to substitute

the fill up Ceer Clank 6 (19)) a lacapa

word collector for "hawker throughout in the power of making regulathe Hill. Another point I propose to move tions given by section of the Theatres Ordinance, 1908, That an amendment to clause of the Bill, the limits within which un- section makes a general referred drizing in prohibit of rather than before, and so that they shall enee to the prescribing of condi-wid

wider tigns of licences and permits. It include the Standard Of Company's seems obvious that this powerworks at Laichi-kok and the waters should exist Sch

Hon members will power is fadernt thereto. al in Ordinances which give also have before them the for

which it is proposed to bring power to isna licences.

now relating to dealers in marina -Clans 7, like Clause of the The also were considered by the Stand Theatres Ordinance. 198, ontains an ing

they be referred to the Finance Compit one of the greatest trials in a small bouses excription in regard to Chinese publicing Law Committee and ny hon, friend

ten.

tu.

of HE the Deer Administering the invernment, laid upon the tables the re port of Finance Committer No. 6 and moved that it be adopted..

The ATTORNEY GENERAL seconded, and this was agreed to..

*PAPERS.

..

"

annded draft of this Bill which shows

From

theres Regulations pro-

to charge rent for a fat alonk 6, for Won. Members will have Before them there for the

certain amendments which I propose to Bill b

The COLONIAL SCRETARY secended.

WILE

who represents the Justiers raised

chas The Arros Ciseau, spoonded, and hold is the maintenance of a staff of satis- therical, planes, which are dead polat dat there should be an omission this was agreed

with under of of the servants, and it is proposed to

_bg__no_escapes__ The SLONIAL SECRETARY, by command devote a considerable portion of the under-the-regulationsma-thereundering from

the roofs of the premises occupied money available to the erection of flats.

THE CHINA COMPANIES" CUSTODIAN

by the dealers y hon. friend pointed which, whilsproviding the conveniones of

ORIINANCE, 199

but that the chance of such escapes might this same time private house, will at

ATTORNEY-GENERAL Th kitchen

thebe dangerous in case of fire and the moved render it unnecessary to bavirin It will be possible to take men's in a comand reading of the Bill intituled an Government accepted the suggestion of mon dining room or to have them served Ordinance for the appointment of my hon. friend and the Clause in the flat. Arrangements will be made Special Custodian of my inter midwin, that the Regulations will suitably

Interests in omitted

from the Regulations, I think, Chice Companies, In doing so

interests under the Bii. The COLONIAL SECRETARY, by command monthly payment to include both rent

these remarks

I beg of H.E. the Offer Administering the and board. It is also proposed to build

to pave thatsthe rend

tame Government, land upon the table reports an hotel where both martied people and of the Standing Law Committee, No. 1 hachelers will be able to obtain suitable when we go into Committee on this

Bill. the Public Works Committee Nex and recommodation.

ought.

Hoh, Mr, 1, (1, ALABASTER-Hom. piep- in to explain to the Council that

the cheet if thi

this Bill, withers will observe from the report of the 4 and the reports for 1918 from the

The site on which these buildings will Director of Education: the Director he spected is on Salisbury and Nathan

Committee on this Bill" to hina Companies as defined Standing Law t Clauso 2 of this Bill, is to work in that reserved in my small a

the right lay of di the

Roads in Kewkoon. It is within a very Barnious arrangement with the placents to Claussa. As these small Royal

Committy certain in Land Offers the

which has been followed in Shanghai ments Prisons: the Captain Superintendent of benefit of almost every breeze that blows Potier: the Botanical and rulestry throughout the gear. The amount to be

Orders in

*ia Councils Under that panati partment the New Territories; and the expended may amount to one and a half

inciple it is right that I should refer to case of China Companies,

them DE the second reading. The first Kowloon-Canton Railway.

million dollars, but until plans have been finister at Peking has appointed a Cusof the proposed amendments will be that.

the prepared it is, of course, imposible to give any useful estimate The sildings will codian of enemy interests in China, That the Regulations, made by the Governor- in Connell, will not become operativn be of the most modern construction, degistrar of the Supreme Court in Shang until

lieve, was originally the in

received of signed as to the sont, Legislative Council. Three quarters far to the lowest Geure

the

T

short distance of the Jerry and has the tickewhere in China under the China famendments involve a question of prin-

in

amendments which

fed to be "a fair and reasonable the scheme may have an important heer-80 bgc legislation in this Colony, we con ·

Dar

architect." commission, amounted to $209,560 or,say. $20,200

house. After fully discussing the matter, thes Committed agreed to recommend that the lowrat tender be recepted and that the work he proceeded with...

QUESTIONS BY THE HON, MR. ALABASTER, The Hon. Mr, C, G. ALarakter asked thes following questions, the answers in each lease ing rend by the Colonial Secretary.. (Q.)~With_reference to the report of

A Supplementary sure if ve million, that we

ment

170-147.27 108,075.37

powers

islative

81 conferred on that Customerment of the Colony. was im

this

At the meeting of the Public Works Committee held on July 9th, the Cha. man reminded the Committee that they erection of quarters on Leighton Hill far to the Junior European Officers of the Civil Although public funds in the ordinary as is well-known, the China Companies of a century ago it pleased the 'rown t Service should be referred to them. He submitted

war Charter provided the Councils to advise desire, by a list of the tenders received this of the word are not to be used in are registered in this Colony, and we grant to this Colony a Charter, and that I feel that the statement italics in this Bill, to make it clear the Governor on certain matters he was

ader and informed the Committee that the have

is not out of place in this

if I may use the Executive Council and the other the lowest tender had been carefully scrutiniz- Council where the house prehlen has that we in this Colony.

Council,

No. legislative orempied much of one time,

phrase, concur in the Te is true ed and that, where considered necessary, this new departure touches onlyon and that, so far as we can lawfully do Charter to that Executive Council The

Custodian of Enemy Pront of this

in China,nathority whatever was given by the the contractor had been requested to

hia. prices. The tender was now part of the problem, but the steps of

entire duty of advising the Governor as firm the

to the laws, pones orries and one. After eliminating the cost of the ing so the policy of the Government in diag I am not sure that the powers of Gun approach rond and paths, which would the future

that Custodian require any such formal on the Legislative Council, and if they serve for additional blocks of quarters to

FINANCE BILL.

surrender that duty in any way to at all events, be erected in proximity to those under The COLONIAL SECRETARY Ioved the it is desirable, in view

confrmation from us, but the fact that another Council they are. I submit, com- consideration, the estimated cost of the first runding of a Bill intituled, an Ordi. the companies are registered in this mitting a breach of trust. There has ben, a tendency in recent years 8 houses about to be bailt; including nance to authorize the appropriation of Colony, that we should make it clear unfortunatneil to pass Ordinances

for intend that the Custodian of four hundred and sixty-six thousand Enemy Property in Chira as regarrishiwhat regulations, they pleased. Thereby Governor-in Council to make .cabling the.. three hundred and twenty-seven dollars Companies, should be the same

publie were deprived and sixty-three ents to defray the charges has been appointed by His Majestyuard, fur with the Bills which are passent of the year 1918.

intend, so far as China Companies are in this Council it is the prattien to red This sum is to be expended as follow:: concerned, that the Custodian who has them a first time. publish them in the Miscellaneous Services 80,900,871.2been appointed as Custodian down here te so that they are open to public

cl. Nessica,

Bring then up at another web- Judicial and Legal Depart

Treasure--should sessi -namely the Colonial be Custodian of Enemy Property in of this. Council, discuss them openly China. It is desirable, therefore, in case in full Council before the Press and the there should be, any desubt raised here public, refer them wither to a Comunittes alter, that this point should be made of the whole Council e to the Standing

Cunraition, and then read them quite clen og the Legislature in Hong third time in Council and pase, the kong, where the Companies are registered. That was not so with the Regulations of that we intend to support, so far as the Governor-in-Council which are Inid

the title Custodian Enemy whi Property

when published and then Comi Chin

public for the first time.

I fock sure KUNG CHAU (RESIDENCE) ORDINANCE, 1919,

remove order panies.

Lhy

possible

dair that the principal reason why the greatest. couLt

charter of English Iberty, which WFLM sion of suitable pier

The Arronssy-GENERAL moved the first able to pass this Bill It has been asked

to the English 700 years ago te modation would be efficient?" "eading of a hill-intituled, an Ordinance for by the General

of Chian and I is the intention of General Managers and us that the duties and obligations inrposed your chair, is placed there is to remind rectors

of certain China Companies if s to act under this Bill with on this Council by our own Charter are not to be

anida Therefor lightly thrown reference to shares held by enemies in

When China Companies.

this Bill goes into Committee F This Bill makes it The COLONIAL SECRETARY Reconded and quite clear, so far as we have power tiens shall not come into force unless

Tove in clauses 3.and that the Regula the Bill was read Arst time.

The Objects and Reasons state:The the Custodian of Enemy Property

the matter, that we intend legislate in

approved by the Legislative Council. іп object of this Ordinance is to provide in China, as regards shares in China CVERNENT With reference to what the H.E. THE OFFICER ADMINISTERING THE that no person shall reside in a certain Companies, shall have full power to sell

hon, member who representa manage and otherwise deal with And

the Justices of the Решся Кся transler auch shares.

just said 'respecting the power given The COLONIAL SECRETARY-seconded and laws to the under practically all our Governor-in-Council to frame the Bill was read a second time.

regulations,

only remind him. The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved that the firstly, that Buch Council go into Committee to consider it in their operation Nothing can be done regulations are restricted Bill clause by clause.

under Huch of the

Regulations which is con Upop the motion of the Attorney-Gen to the

contrary whatever

Public Works, recurrent..... Charitable, Services:

Totaf ver

the Committee of the Sanitary Board appointed to consider the question of scavenging, is the

..85,106.327.63 Han. Director of Public Works correctly reported to have the Bill was read a first time,

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL Seconded, and The

system of collection

and

is economical and with the provi-

ed

acecm-

car

"Chin

in

11:

10

it

W

BESTI

the

If so, what steps down the Govio provide that no person shall reside I Companies in Shan Manager believe in Puede and which is framed above

ernment propose to take to pro- ithin the southern portion of the Island vide the suitable pier accommoda of Cheung Chau, otherwise known" " tion which would render the pre- umbbell Island, without the consent of rent system efficient?

the Governor-in-Council... (A.)-The quotation is correct.

It

forms part of a minute written by the Director of Public Works, as a member of the Sanitary Board, on the circulating cover of a Sant tary Board file. The whole questions is under con-

of the destruction of Cheung Chau or Dumbbell

Iland without the conront of the Gov | tion of city sideration, and in the circun- rnor-in-Council, which content would in stances it would be useless, to em- lude the family and employée and past bark on the construction of expen-

the applicant for permission to re- xive piers which may not be ride. quired.

THE HOUSING PROBLEM.

степ

they are

RATING (SPECIAL WAR RATE) AMENT MÉNT.

The Attornou geest moved the fernt the title of the Bill was changed to which

made. Become under ending of Bill intituled, an Ordinance An Ordinance relating to the Custodian be thoughts of delegating such te mirand the Rain de al vranes of Enemy Interests in China, and the fai-ingislative, Powera to the ine ich quasi- Ordinance; 1017.

foring clauses were substituted for lauren a custom which has existed for very many and 4 as originally printed in the years--I should imagine ever since Crown Bill

Colonies started and is practically uni- the term "Custodian" means and ball as Government to aceept such a motion as (3-In the car of every China Company versal. It would be impossible for the from the commencement of the Trading the with the Enemy. (Second Amendment) B3), and

member proposes to make in this would suget to him that as Custodian of Enemy Property in shortly in this Colony, who has not only China

great experience of the working of many (4)-All shares, stock, debentures, ste-Colantes from the time he has been in the Colonial Office and who has also served tions of every China Company (including

H. E. the OFFICER ADMINISTERING THE (GVRENRENT. I have from time to time during the past few months referred various aspects of the housing problem in The COLONIAL SECARTARY seconded and this Colens, and I desire to-day to make the Bill was read a first time...

short statement regarding one part of The Ojects and Reasons einte-The the problem that appears now to have abject of this Bill is to amend the pro reached a stage where definite action cons of ruinanco Nv. le v 1917. take the place of mere proposals. The European population of this Colony may hot & Spies, Buy

roughly into three categories. Per cent. from the July, 1917, until Firstly, those who are in a position to the end of the quarter during which the build houses for themselves at a consider prevent war shall have come to an end. able Scondly, those who are employed able only up to and including the second by the Government or by large Companies Quarter of 10.0, because, although Peas ur firms who either have made or are has been signed, no proclamation has gr making arrangements for their housing, heen issued by His Majesty in Comaci

be

the hon.

Ordinance, 1916, be deemed to have meant a new Governer will be arriving

table cust provided suitable kites are avail- so na to make such Special war late pay, bentures stock, annuities and other for some Years in the premier Crown'

any rights, whether legal or equitable, in Colony of the Empire, he will, no doubt, Dr arising out of the same) held by, or be able to give us a good deal of informa on behalf of, an enemy or enemy subject, tion on the subject and, if he so pleases, and the right to transfer the same shall will be able to refer the matter to the Secretary of State.

bc

those who though in per under the Termination of the Prevendected to have vested or shall vest (as consideration of on this occasion, as and, thirdly, cannot reasonably look

nent

houses for themselves.

.

OMB

from

to their War (definition) Ordinane, 19.8, is thema and have not the means to build a date to be treated as "the date of the any further conveyance, assurance or the hon. member knows, we are going to termination of the present war" and be other document, in the person appointed,k this Counel to rase the first set of The Government has had under con- cause it is thought tesirable by the nong whether before or after the commencement Regulations under this Ordinance On sideration the provision of sites for the kong Government that the special War of this Ordinance (as the case may first of these classes and I hope that be ato should not be enliected ter аду Custodian of Enemy Property maybe), previous coension, with the Ordinan

imposing compulsory service last year fore very long efforts will be success- period subsequent to the decord Quarter and such Custodian shall,

our

the Government took the same stop. The ful, but

but I can make no definite statement of 1019.

the dato of his appointment

Regulations were of such a nature that on the subject at present. As regards

LA such Custodian, be deemed to

they plected a the second class, a great deal has already PLACES OF PUBLIC INTERTAINMENT-REGULA-have-bad-and-shall have full

rent many Europesas in powere this been done by the Dock and other Com-

TION ORDINANCE, 19.0.

of selling, managing and otherwino deal that the Legislative Council should par was thought proper panies and the Banks to house their em-

ing with and transferring such altres, them. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the first stock, debentures, debentures atock, annui- to bring up such a motion as that the Council always has the power ployés The Government has not so far reading of a Bill intituled, an Ordinana ties and other obligations of such China regulation under any particiar Ordin done nearly all that it might, but it in- tends to proceed as rapidly as possible to consolidate and arend the law relating Company (including all such rights asance shall be passed by the Connel and with the erection of quarters, I am glad to Pinces of Public Ectoriainment aforesaid).

this in the second time, in the last few

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