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MAIL SUPPLEMENT TO THE HONGKONG DAILY PRESS.

THE CIVIL SERVICE DEBATE.

TAXATION OF SHIPPING.

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HONGKONG, THURSDAY, LEORMBRE 108, 1891.

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HONGKONG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. A meeting of the Legislative Council was held

Mejor General Q. Dreny BARKER, C.U on the 4th instant. There were present

HES EXCELLENOS ran ACTING GOVSBOB" earstar

Hea, W. M. GOODMAN, Acting Colonial Hon. J. LACH, Acting Attorney-General. Hoo HSTEWART LOCKHARI. Registrar Hon N. G. MITCHELL INNTE, Colonial Tree. A

Han E. A COOPER Acting Surreyor General. Hon. W. C. H. HAIGE, Acting Harbour Master.

Hon. P. BRIE.

Hoài Ho LaL

Boa. J. J. KESWICK,

Hea. T. II. WATTIHEAD;

language for the Hongkong Legislation but the cheapness of thing trade, and in a general meting of the meratatesble criminals. The supermandents of Gavarner and Legislature, Cotarial Secretary, wholly unjustifiable. I have no dust whaterer list this departmentia very moch overmanned, Would he rather surprised on reading his trade at present passing through our har-an extent publie opinion Tereed. To what the Glad as evidence in support of the caseAudit Departient, Tressury, Strøsyor-Gangai; that the geal accommodation just now is un₤1., therefore wave a reduction of 10 par esnt. in

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nothing that should have excited anger. In at present might be levied here, to the relief of the name." That is the opinion horseflect would probably be slightly against vertain items and a divisior bad taken apan some time ago,

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Crown land's had been properly administered disappeared, as the stations are now fo THE PROPOSED NEW GAOL. The report of the debate on the Civil Ser. never have been necmary to lory a penny Foreign Customs and acontate statistics ar

{pared to enterstones into tās financial position of || Hos. T. H. Wertemuan—! rita la zona a from the foundation of the Colony it would under the administration of the Chinese

the Colony, as the hon, mezber opposite wishes, reduction of 10 per cent, in the amount voted vice at Manday's mooting of the Legislative of taxation of

His Excelicnoy the Acting Gareroor may

I am also sta dimdvantage in not having been for the Treesarer's department Tire Trea Council will have been read with anussent however, is another question, which it is un-Bo far as that branch of the local trade in the Secretary of State to obtain, a prslimi

any kind whatsoever. That, the junk trade are selfooted and published. congratulated on his skill as a special

present at the recent dobstes on these evtizantes. - Incar's dati s formanrly were performed by the pleader. Having received the directions of

understand the question at present is whether Featmaster-General on sallowance of £200 por by the frivolous and with pain by the necessary to enter upon now. In advocating concerned any statistics that might be col-

the items thoughtful The Hon, T. H. WEEKSAD the Pausmical administration of the Civil lected by the Colonial Gowtament would aty vote for a new gaal, oneral Bawan made

without debate at all aco to be stated for gistrates on an allowance of $450 per amam, passed in Finance Commistas annam, and afterwards by one if the Police Ma. proposed that

disuasion or only the items opponad 1 bare Nown new office in orasted and the som required commission should be ap. Bervice we do so, not a Mr. Wa92 amply be a duplication of those collected/out the best case possiblo in favour of nuder poiled with full powers to enquire into READ, because we think the Colony is du by the

taking that most ouncessary and expensive.

not that experience of the Council that world for this departament has steadily risen from aad report on the working of all the De- the road to Tain; but because we hold than the Customs Authorities, and no doubs work. That the present gaol is not an ideally Gazeral.

entitle me to speak with anchority, and in nine 311,500 in 1880 to $27,376 for the Avening year. I partraents of the Government with the view the ratepayers, whether the Colony be pros-arrangement would be made whereby one

order to avoid unnecessary trouble perfect structure we know, and His Excelleney

the decision of the members of the Fiance C cases out of ten I would be prepared to accept therefore move the reduction I pro ploto. f retrenchment, oni to this desirability or perous or otherwing, have a right to gut fail set of retures would be made to serve, skilfully dwelt on the measure by which it

·The acreudment was not sovented. ntherwise of the redistribution of work, value for their money and because economical There remains the trade carried by for

mittes. Be that as it may, to come to the Hoa. T. H. WHITEĦELD-1 rise to move 5 short of ideal perfection, ignoring

Items they took exception to, the audit depart-reduction of $2,100 in the vote for the Past the amalaration of certain offices, the in- government is a principle to be supported sign vessels, and it the matter be again everything that could be said in favour of

most, gaol, and one or two others, 1 thick Office department. It seems to me innecessary erensing of the home of the official day, pri- ou its own merits independent of fortuitous thought forward we can hardly think fast the practical sufficiency for the useds of the vileges in the way of leave, ke. The pro- ciroumstances.

anything which would obstract reconsider that the cost of all these durartments of the Go- ation of those questions would be very rerurient should be deadly inoressing. I can- posal was resented with more warmth than

this branch will meet with the opposition anehed out on a limony we would. the collection of statistics in regard to Colony. It nothing short of ideal perfection discretion by the Acting Colonial Secretary;

were to be tolerated in the

unfortunate. In redecanes to the undit departust but thick the oadat syston how something wan allowed himself to fall into a GOR

ment. I have no oplation which would enable me to do with it. Billets amat by Found for the expenditure it did on the former ocossion Legisla

and bs in state of

ler befors wo temptuous tone very unbecoming to the

to speak upon it. In referons to the gual. I ondats. I think that thin departmel abrald be Fankruptey tion on the subject was originally recom

FER APPROPRIATION DILA, 1802,

(Link I any my that. I have always regarded, very easily carried on without the vary large dignity of his office. Mr.. WEITERBAU

mended by the Committee of the Chamber of

where

we wore.

would all only

The AUTING COLONIAL SECESTART moved this expenditure as most anteossary, regarded expanditate which attends it. In no other port in the world, with the Commerce, and Mr. MAORISTOSK, the of was told that his remarks were sicken exception perhaps of Bingapore, is emipping the strongest supporters

existing

to departments be provided the third reading of the Appropriation Bill, it more or less as a mistake to which this The amendment was not knooaded ing vant" and that gentloancu would so lightly taxed as in Hongkong. In no

of the Bill, with new quarters and increased establich

The COLONIAL TREASUREN Bunded.

colony has been committed by the views express- Hou. T. H. WHITEDEAD-I also move a re I now she Chairman of that body.ments, but now uns would have to be added.

ed on the sul rot of tim geel during part duofion in the departeous of the Registrur- not come out from Engmaid to join the other port in the world has the granth

Hor.. T. H. WOTIEREAD-I rise, your Expert, and by the authorities at home consider General Formerly the Registrar General draw Hongkong Civil Servico if they were to be the shipping trade bon so remarkable of If the Bill were re-introduced in the might not unreasonably be suggested, for sellenay, to manva that the Bill be recommitte

ong thing,

ing that the grounds which made it so desire, a salary of $3,840 and had no uraismut. Now Legislative Council doubtless it would

that free concation should take entirely under the thumb of the Hon. T. geographical position of the island is pain receive the support of the Chumber, cadence of the expenditure of a largo sum state the items of the Bill for the discrasion of build this now gaal still held rond Now Lam existant at a salary of $2.410. Bid co

HIS EXORLLANOT-Will the hon. member ahla hefore that the olony should proceed to the salary has been increased ta 86,904, with an H. WHITERTAD." This is somewhat unnenal doubt the prime factor in

to the • hopalèse attempt to reform irrecisim which he wishes the Bill recommitted ?

quite satisfied in my own mind that the expendi- the department has risen from 319.000–ía 1980 port has also had Council, and posibly. Mr. Cooman limsel mach to do with it. There i

computer,

Hon. T. H. WHITEHEAD-The Hems are the tara on now gaol of $50,000 or 3600003 is to 85.940 in 1882 The geval opițiva is Acting Governor made the Tote recorded in March, good deal of 1888, would probably be A

Lee of the reports of

of the speech to find bow far he had allowed him- bour which would be diverted by the im-dification during the last four years may to These reports, it may be remarked, were all Magisiray, Police, Gaols, Military Expandiraived by resinstraction of the gast. In re has undergone mo he felt it his duty to try to make out eral, Harbour Master, Ecclesiastical Educational by a much smaller expenditure than that in

Water and Drainage, Post Office, Registrar Gen-atisfactory, but I think that could be rectified the vote. self to bo carried away by the hens of the posidon of very little further taxation. Alm

The amendment was not sesanded. Have Mr. WarTRUBAD's action may considerabis quantity of merchandise brought some extent be gauged from the fact

Hon T H. WHITET AD-In the vote for ference to the military expenditure have been somewhat exasperating. He had here for transhipment would be sent to the Hon. T. H. WAITSERAD's proposal for written after the Secretary of State had es- faze, and tg, Polion Gaols, Militar

the Harbour Master's departraant I move a no- been told that Generat BARKER, the Acting destination direes if it cost much to land opian has been resolved almost without a saying this we do not mean for a momone to point out to the kon. mmmber that each Bill fromtitiod; I think that would be more bear Master when wo sea that dwing the shaenco

the establishment of a bonded warehouse for Fressed himself in favour of a new

gaol

HIS EXCELLENCY-The remarks of the bon.duction of $1.000. It sooms strange wo should Governor, could not entertain such a resoluit here, and vessels plying between Canton word of dissent.

The ACTING COLONIAL BECERTARY--I should member would be more appropriate after the bave Harbour Master and an Asistant Bar- tion as that proposed by the hon mem-and the North would often be deterred from

to suggest that the wntera did not conscion-f thesa itemis was diromod in public rery regular. The question is now whatier the Bid of the Harbour Master the Assistact is za to tiously hold I the opinions At Singapore atatistics of the imports and

they expressed, but ber when brought forward on the very entering fees. At present a vessel, eamquity in that port, so far, from regariling bave reference to increasing the importance was takea upon these, and in the report of

if they had to pay any on ave of the arrival

discharge the duties of bath does and those of exports are collected and the mercantile courofficers za trally adopt very readily the views fully in Finance Commilles. There were a to be recommitted for further consideration. a new Governor,

of their superiors, especially when those views to in the Finance Committee and a vota celleney, then I will resume my seat,

two or three Items which wore objasted Hoa. J. J. Kawior-Very well, jour Ex-Superintendent of the Water Polies Under the circumstances it might have been afford to call here either to land or take in it as a hardship or in any way undesirable, of the department which the officer called the Committee it is duly recorded that the un- Excellemey, that there would be considerabie ad tema and come to the Magistracy. Itipat

The amendineut why not moondað. considered that it would have beea more in an almost amount of care highly appreciate it, as is shown by 203a to raport happens sq be in charge of, official mombora voted against these items. In rautage to be gained from the discussion of vari-here also: "aving could be effected. At present Hab. T. H. WRITEREAD-I still think, your Hon. T. H. WarrGREAT pass over Bea! tas public interest to

to postpone the resolution and it is to the of the Colony to do forts of the Chamber of Commerce to secure! for a week or two, and Mr. WRITERAD'S enters the port pute money in should have no similar returns is certainly partial and unbiased. We all know from (read in Committon, and it was only when the When the Hill was read over I took it that the satisfaction of ovary and converted. Therefore action in bringing it forward on Monday vessel

essel that caters the port pute mere the perfection of the system. That Kunglong an opinions expressed but Ceneral Gossos siristuces the hon. member at his spportunity ens items, and I would entrout gear Brosiseney we have ews Me satrate doing the finty of two might be construed as being dietatad

and contributes to our general unfortunate. Sporking at the

slip on the last coasaion, because the to give an opportunity for that now. Magistrates. He does his well and to the entirely it accepted desire to sunoy. However this be the

It is easy to

to imagine that a hon. gentleman did not approach to suy

. looking at the immense stien offing held in March, 1888, M meet observation how the Chinese working estion of the third reading arose that he asked Council would return to each item. No smokI cannot but regard it sa napeosssary to have thing in the nature of personal rudeness in shipping constantly passing in and out, and I think it a standing disgrace to us that in Victorie del, to talk of the latter being Bill recommitted was that he might beuansistent, amandments with view of carrying out the

to have the Bill reconsidered. The hea. member opportunity was given of expressing our two Magistrates and I move the reduction of MACHINE eksseslire, and when wo dompare their homes who then sat opposite (fr. Chuter) now absent, Tows on the various items 1 fully intended at this sute by $5.183. said: This is a civilized community, and with the nccommodation afforded to prisoners wid the reason why the hon. member wished the the second reading to bring forward certain bis remarks and was entitled to expect bearing in mind the large revenues derived

The amendment, was mit sebouded. civility in any reply that might be made to from shipping elsewhere, might be disposed out a record of what the unds with overcrowded is simple ridiculous. That the and that as be bad voted in Finntos Committee policy which the unofficial members disolved other items sad come to Use military expendituro.

e should have existed so many years with-in Victoria

Hoa. T. H. WRITERED-I will pass ofarthe Him Arul in the resolation itself there was to think that toll to a larger amount than out even a vestige of a record worthy Parte

Imove the reduction of this vota by £30,000. As the recitals with which it was prefaced there of the ratepayers in general, many of of the head of one of the leading ship-formation may be frankly aliuitted, but in an of his which to bad done in Finance it is recommitted for the purpose of definite A division was Laken, wind fiel. P. Fyrly

then the associated sysical no thaw it, so when the Bill was in

HIS EXUKULENCY--After that explanation I mol Les bean said on this subject I will hot and as deterrent

Committee of the whole bocas, which here con will not oppose any longer the recommittal of make any further remarks at presset. means of ro Dot think will command the assent of the gen. (shipping though indirectly they all derive the Bill would entail trouble or expeuso affect of the two Breference between the Committee. namely, record his vote against amendments. were statements and inferences which we do whom have no jmmediate connection with firms of the Colony, and so far us either respect the

same members; he might the Bill I will only remind the hon.

Hor. Ho KAI Boondul. ping

if a comuesion were appointed to inquire shipping being the life blood of the Un Mr. MIOMIETISH's firm would soffor ins to make the expenditure of a large tone for the recommittal of the Bill for the parpose the expenditure under the head of Gorerror Tha amendment was therefore last, eral public, but that it would be a good thing their

their living therefrom. The phrase about

would be so slight those ltema. I was under the impressise the on a defuitos.mendment.

Anything that is said wont be Whitehead, Hon. Ho-Kai and Hon.

voted for the swendment and am Ban. 1. J. into the working of the Civil Service i

samoanthoc member was about to move to-day proportion to the magnitude of its busmess, is becoming somewhat hackneyed, but Mr. Madison showed in his speech of money to attain it proposition that hardly admits of dispute.

The

Hen. T. WHITEHGAO-Then sa regarda Koswick and the official members againėt. is literally true. Shipping ** ** 1 however, how little the trouble foula can very well get alors presens mentioned on the last ovusion. I was not and Legislature. It is a Several surt: commissions have sat in Eng. portant element in the trade of

very thaukless and Hou. T. H. WHTEHEAD-I mare that the land and it would be an excellent thing it country with a seaboard, but

amount to. At the same meeting the Hangol for many years to one, and we trust that the for raped to hear him more to have ungrateful taale which falls upon mo

vota for $10,000 for gani éxtension be bibited. the Civil Service of every country in the unique in being solely and kong A. P. Miowe said it bad bean represent duty to support the decision of the Secretary the items he has now mentioned. There was to order. As we have groated such permission bou; friend, appusite, Mr. Koswick, and share his

sent General Bazken, though he has felt it is the Bill recommitted for the discussion of all B

The ACTING ATTORNNY-ENERAL-I rise I cordially agree with the remarks made by iy world were subjected to a close and formal pendent upon its shipping. In other places tial shipping Erins in the East, if State as regards passing the vote through vote and the military item, but I am not aware what his amendment is. He has got my and ever for a new cool. Fisory taxpayor in the

ed to him by one of the most influen-

somo mention on the last occasion of the prison to the hon. member ho ought to say at cres opinion that there is really no necessity what investigation periodically.

there is a producing zed a consaiming poot in the world, that General BARKER, Whose remarks on palation, and goods must be conveyed to statistics of the trade of the port should be Ksprayer the true state of the case and the to have the Bill recommitted-which would be le loading up to it all. I think the hoa, member could be shown I have not the innaf doubt the

some official Council, will not fail to report to Lord anything was said about the other things, and cammenced a speech and we don't know what it calony, I think, is opposed to it. If gund s Monday could not have been in briter and fro, however illiberal the regulatiorus kept that similar requests had been address extreme irritation felt in the Colony at the favom to the ben, member, because in strict should state inis amendment at ones

antial members would be prepared to alter. vernment was alive to its duty and gave we have practically to products to

But that order to enter on the brge and wholly un-

Hon. T. . WHITEHEAD-I more tast the their position. but wo kars befors us the feat one instance ia which he himself had and only a small population for whose satovishment had been

expressl in recommended an ardalgamation of offices consumption goods must be brought, and total absence of utatistics respecting its trade-

one of the leading British colonics arch a a new, gaol would involve

thing gone over again, to have the same same es it was previous to this year. My roomms less than it has beau in recent years, and thore But while

speeches wa listened to with great attention for doing so, your Excellency, are these Looks reason to anticipate that any addition to we have no doubt His that there is any population at all is due

A POST OFFICE" BINGLE. should exist.

weeks ago, and to have fresh opposition on ing carefully into the estimates for next year I the number of prisoners will shortly pear, I Excelleney would speedily correct abuses solely to the fact that reasols find it con-argu

With be exception of the

an that were not opposed in Finance Com- that obtruded themselves on his notice or renient to call here. In our case shipping system might have on the Chinese, she only ment and the Hongkong Canton, and Hop. Chater Dexpansion of

argument as to the effect the proposed The orrespondence

Caunot feel at all satisfied that the revonne put think it would be nothing less than wanton mittoo at all, seems to me to be reducing the dors, namely 59,144,000, will be realised. I extravagance, in the croisat position of the So Govora thing to obstraction to the Bill being passed hope I am greatly mistaken sud that it will be Colony, to enter or the building of a LOW suggest improvements that occurred to hit, does not follow the population; it is the other respectable argument put forward was Steamboat Company, Ld with reference to very dussary the Bill should be home before be derived from spina paxt year steeds by score same little time age for the expansion of we think he would hardly claim to have son- population that follows the abipping. Un-that it would impose considerable trouble Macono lettory discloses an initance of how the end of the your Committee; and if we are Thera is also another very large incrasse of robe carried out, and carried out at the cast of ne ducted any searching and systematic investider these circumstanous the good govern and some expense ou gation into the working of the Service with meat of the harbour and the maintenace The trouble and

the community. not to do. Hitherto unstamped letters sent meetings of the

We had three separate $181,600 that obtainon daring the vast 1851. the peosont prison, which I firmly beliers.cat the view of ferreting out abusos and effect of low taxation on vessels entering of would be a mere nothing as compared with courtesy of the Company been delivered in it boompi & qocation what is the way of the of revenue from the sap of land is estimatalanoss I more that this pots holandand s

expense,

however, on board the steamer stacio have by that are the whole of the items fought out stain, same nuder the fall for larga expuliture Under a circum we all know how apt things are to ran on inparantly, that the Hon. T. H. WHITEERAD trouble and expense bave to l

Hongkong

time to allow of their bacon Committed at all and having the rotesel at doable the mount of that obtaining Government osa at any time, when plans and os the same groove long after the circumstances proposed at the last meeting of the Tagis every other port in the world. The real same day. That, this is a

be borne in almost ing

on the corded on the minutes so that it appoare that this year. I hops, sir, I am greatly mistake timates have been proparel sums the Cennoil time useful have changed. There ought to in the Merchant Shipping Bill for the ap-belief that it would interfers with cortain legal is a fast which admite of no dispute, her if he would set limit his request for ream

useful have changed it one Intion Concil that proping at to do ad Issais of the opposition to the Bill was the the Post Office monopoly and therefore the male thing over again? I then me but I think in view of the precious nature at got the moon. I bag to sen

infringement of ha un objection on the pan of the Govern poiutuent of a Lighthouse Board. Un contraband trade. This was not openly ad. but in consideration of the great convenience mittal to the items he mentioned on the last ment to letting light in on the working of fortunately the hon. gentlenian had not ar-vanced in argument; but at the public menting it affords to the mercantile community it is occasion, the Service. i no aluse or wastefulness ranged any concerted action with his Mr. Maatwes taxed the opposition with it a practies that might well have beun to- are discovered so much the better, but if on leagues, who, being taken by surprise, were and the imputation was ant resented. Dis. lerated in the futuro as it has been in the past. allowed. the opportunity to slip of having ach submit it does not require a first-cines Gevarner. heau sanctioned at home upon the mistake zotion Hoo. T H. WHITEHEAD It is true that I now to face. This is bat a small islan, and I to this rote. The building of a new gaol has the other hand it is found on investigation sunwhat stres 8 KESWICK agreed creditable as this ground of opposition WAR The Government, however, insists that all item discossed in fall Committen of the Council. or at all events Gorornor with the pay of a that the soparate system should he carried out that ecoumy can be affected or efficiency be question: The Hon. J. J.

as to the bearings of the promoted by making certain changes surely that it was important to keep the light duas Customs took over the administration of the and as that office appears to be unable to the different items being strack ont. The idan class colony is sotitled to receive. The ranson very much upon the Chinees criminal class. They must have disappeared since the Foreign letters must now pass though the Post Office, means of the official vote to prevent any one of pension which a Governor is charge if a first that I did not think the solitary system would tell It is within the power of the Government by first clans official to entitle him to receive the bere. I raade the remark co ono occasion before no one will deny that those changes ought as low as possible, but said he did not see Kowloon stations, so that it is difficult to deliver the letters in time for them to be of referring the whole question of the Appro-which Ford Knutsford gave for the laurons are a very patient set of people and the estate to be made. Mr. WarTEREAD, however, in the necessity for a Board The necessity, see where the opposition would now come auswered the same day the mercantils com pristian Hill to the Finance Committee is in of the salary is one which I should say is a system would be cutirely wasted sublug coure the recitals to his resolution and in his we think, is not far to seek Whor

peech fell into the error of exaggeration, light dues were first imposed it was not if a Bill similar to that sondemned in munity will be subjected to very appreciablender. I take it, that the unofficial members gusat in favour of the reduction of the salary, upon them. I think perhaps something more He might have spared as the ancient joke intended that they should be mainİMİD-

1888 were squin brought forward.

lots and inconvenience which will be in no should derive information in connection with It was stated in this Chamber is April last, by in the nature of severer corporal punishment about the sad fate of the inhoud of Sted at a higher rate than wis neces-

degree counterbalanced by the very insignia itam of expenditure and be prepared to the Chairman of the Finance Committee, as fel- would be better than the soparate system. It is Thomas, which is surely entitled by this sary to pay for the lights. But they were!

simply waste if wo hara to throw away half ficant revenue that will be derived by the dotato vach item of expenditure in the fall low THE AUDIENCE QUESTION. Lime to be ranked as a chestnut." Passing so rasintained, and when it was decided

Government In Shanghai, with its ad-It is true that I innocently allowed my oppor- ment of the estimates with respect to the Gover-on a new gaol; and you will admit that if the 18Council when the Bill octans up for disonesion. The wort mints recommendet an amends million or thres quarters of a million of dollars this by, however, we coins to the aerious part to erect another light additional dues were

mirable local Post Office, every latter tanity la alin. The Bill was read over, there was nor's salary, which had out lasa iugarted in the present vote in passed through the Council the The statement that the French and Eussian is delivered within fan-hour of the only one claque, and 1 understood after that had estimacoal the manner groposed by the Secretary mainder of the monoy . In vat. the matter. It does not vessarily folow imposed to pay for it. A solemn promise Ministers to Peking are insisting on being arrival of the steamer that brings it been done the unofficial members would have of State. The Scoretary. State in his despaten that because now appointments are con has been given that when the Gap Rock received in audience in the Imperial Palace even though half-a-dozen steamers arrive at the opportunity afforded them of discassing of the 19th Jane stated that he had droided wade by your Excellency at the last meeting tinually being tale those appointments are light is paid for the dues will be reduced to itself is welcome news if true. The general the same time. There seems so good reason each item, and not be told that the Bill had pras that the salary should be voted at $32030, la- of Council I understand it is almost impossible annecessary. It is not to be expected that their former leral, but the probability of reception of the Foreign Ministers last spring why the same efficiency should not prevailed through Committee. I would entrust your clusive of entertainment allowance, and that for the Government inat sow to refrain fro and twenty thousand can be aluinistered there had been a Lighthouse Board from the but it was arranged that before the next Crown Colony with a burenneratio form af of golog into the various items montinued.

Colour with a population of two hundred the promise being fulfilled is remote. If took place in the Hall of Tributary Nations, is postal affairs here, except that the zooloney to permit us to have the opportunity when on balt pay the Governor should rocain passing this voto, in consagros of the instruc with the same staff or for the same cost as coustneroment shipping would never have audience a more suitable ball should be get government, whereas in Shanghai the rori-it from what the ban womber has stated that he won on vacation pay he should receive $25,000, the absence of any necessity for a ver Fol

$12,504, the remaining $19,500 to be drawn by tions you have received. That is a state The ACTING COLONIAL SECRETARY-I take the Osar Administoring the Government, and affairs which, holding the views. I do as to was only balf that bean called upon to contribute to

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Ross he has no right to have it recommitted-con

lante, endeavoured to show that the Go. affecting shipping may be In Ho shined to him from commercial centres, necessary expendituro which the building of a sort of roving commission, to have the whole Gorrior's salary be reduced to $33800, or the that the number of prisoners in gaol to-day is

ing economies. This is whatis required, for prime Importance. It was in this view, ap-she resulta to be obtained, and the same answered by the return boat on the he. members opposed certain items. What in supposing this revsune will not be obtained, aud by means of the very numerous official vote

of

bid

when its

js a

whole ask mem- the revenue derived froea it be well

Hon. Ho KAI second the atmond-

that a notes of warning should be conated that ment. It is u prat this may not be able in the near future to boar the Government that the ratepayers of this

we

the Jurge amount of expenditure which we hare Colony and all the unofficial members are opposed

Ho. 3. J. Keswick-From the remarks

of

the staff of the Government Serein we have having been inserted, there would be of France, Russia, and Austria were not this kind for thewalvos. aumber.. Corth the inervaso ́in révenus, and the thin and be general ready. At the last nadicuce the Ministers Beats are permitted to arrange matters of wishes the whole of the items recommited. In In the satimaton the salare had been put dong regard as very regrettable, and I woull be

bit ao present,

capital

suen an inoroned in the staff of the Bauke danger of ire being driven home. The prim-recently for the purpose of prestating thair

all arrived at the they and the other commercial institutions. Parn-

ciple

contribute

REVIEW.

ing to the Directory we saw that whereas the ping she been once admitted that ship-orodentials.. Baron, vos BizoELEBEN, the] eta of the Hongkong and Sharghat Bank succeeding Governor the general revenue Austrian Minister, was in a hurry to return Things Japaness. Being Notes on Various Sab are present, and the whole matter istallydians it were, in the shape of allowance. The reason and that if they can be branght to view the

has been tached by the depression that hae

tinu

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OF HONGKONG TRADE.-

Amongst the nowe brought out by the mail shift, arrangement, and they app theag enlarged by the insection of over twenty newsəgozdėd the resolution sounded it, for a recomand es they were aware the pensions of Gover-mission is suggested. It way he thought that in

the sious

The Hall of

that I do not really a wont object is gained at so much and the alkware at a mach, much relieved to bear there in some mazus of in rofurcing the Bill to the Finance Committee. In What the Secretary of State intended was that getting out of the difficulty. I am quite satis that Committee the fullest explanation is given to the whole amount should be played a noe anra, fed myself that this is a very great error which hon. members, the votes are recorded, the Press although part of that sum was to be used, as the Colonial Anthorities at booehave actio at the Hongkong branch numbered twenty pressed for funds to throw away on now of Japan) and the circumstances did not are not unlikely, when to Tokyo (being also accredited to the Court

jaots roanected with Japau, for the use of ed. It really seems to as to be making a fores of why the Boretary of State desired the smonet position in the light in which we ses it they Travellers and others By BARIL HAGL the whole thing to do as the hon. member wishes to be stated under one bead was explained in a will not go on. I am quite satired the ex in 1881, in 1891 it numbered thirty-five gaols and other absurdities of that kind, to admit of much delay in the

CHAMBERLAIN, Emeritus Profesecr of lapus and gu through the whole thing again now. In letter to Bir Willing des Year. in whira La paditure isnonary. I will certainly record Mr. WHITEHEAD Els alepted bit usual think that shipping could very well bear an for his

Arrangements

and Philology is the Imperial University staid of making progress we shall be further back said that it was important that the whole my vete against this item when called upon to lubrious tone with regard to the financial extra charge of a csat or two per ton. And to be received in the Hall of Tabutary Na-

Hc Acption.

rightly declined

of Japan. Seurod Edition, revised and so then we were three weeks age. I act sertain amount should be voted as salary in order to se vote, but I very greatly reset there is not ontlook, on

a which point he was to some ex under the Morchant Shipping Bill the tirns and rather than submit to suda a in-

larged. London: Kegan Pani, Trenek, Trubrer ly ank your Exoslenor aut to permit any further care bis position as offer in charge of a fira means of deferring this expenditure The lent supported by the Hor. J. J. KESWICK, Governor in Council bes the power to fix dignity was prepared to leave without predict editios of this useful work ap- specially as this is is question of recommittal salary he was not considered to administer a necessary experi

Co. LL. Yokobsmu, Shanghai, Hoogkonz.ioassion on thoes items that have been passed close Cloverament under the Governor Pension, matter has been ventilated in a way, which who says that our reventa

and Singapore Kelly and Walsh, d. 1891 without opposition in Finance Committee, Aots. Unless the Governor received a vertain will show the authorities at home it is an not elastic, the dues at whatever vale he likes. rather a vague teren. It is true the Colony

senting his credentials, It was therefore

This might perhaps Arranged that the audionos should take place poured we anticipated that it would meet with a It is retrogression rather than progression. frd-clue Government, and if he did not al-be done by a new coumission of inquiry into of late Lean experienced in almost every THE NECESSITY FOR STATISTIUS Western Park. The French and Russian bank is entertaining as well as useful, and its to have su opportunity of discassing in the fall of the first class, and therefore, this vestites made their reports it is two or three years bo

in the Chang Koan ter

temple, situated in the demand and we are glad to zoo that a Hon. T. H. Wara formar years it miniatar a Brat-class Gornmost for a certain the matter. I know commissions and cu

second edition bas so soon been called for. The bus been the custom for the nonficial members time he could wat get a pension as a Géverace horsema, they take time, and after they have. commercial centre in the world, but to our mind few placer

Ministers, not being pressed for time. are companionship will add largely to the plecare Connol Etams to which no objection was taken tion of the votimates was required It made fore they are acted upon, and then no DORSONS hure amore: cheerful outier than Hongkong. With

under no necessity to fall in with any make of any one making a trip in the charming land in Finance Committen. our geographical position and the Inge on the 3rd inst. is the statement that an iu object to being received either in the

no difference as far as this Colony was co-are atending to the matter and carrying of Dai Nippon. The present odition has been HIS EXOx-The hon. member who corned, as the same augant would be spent, out the recommendations, and then a ser com and yet very imperfectly exploited mar- portent decision has been come to by the de- Kuan temple or any other outhouse, hozatalos, while the old have been corrected ap to witted of the Bill, which is the motion now before nors were not paid by the coloris hat by the what I am suggesting: but I would very kets by which we are surrounded, the partmental joint committee of the Colonial, ever digudied its name. They rightly claimed reviews toes, matantly raming as to what itens it was the bau, member wishel Sir, I submit it dos make a difference, it makes el to see if it might not be pesulla trude of this Colony is bound to increase and India, and Foreign Offices and The Custom to be received in the palace itself and it is through fat, new solltions of Professur huu. to discuss should like to know now a difference of 99200, and 1 -bink for a small to sarry eat some more dconomical ecome than

re-written in many parts. With the He ended it before I put the question Imperial Government"

much like to see commission appoint there is nothing extravagant in the predic house authorities to the effect that, at the to be hopad they will persist in their domand. burbain's work will, it is safe to predict, ba fra- whether he intended to second the motion for pleos such sa Hongkong is that it is somerbat that of building a new gaol. I must record my

That its population will within the best end of the prevent financial year uniform Tho attitude they are said to have takes up quantly called for. twenty-five years reach half a million.

No reasonable maa can iske stock of our established in all the Crown Colonies, and seamed by the whole Diplomatic Corps

registration of experts and importa

reopening the items that have been praand by extravagant, absurdly extravagao, to pay this vote against this expenditure. to be is the one which ought to have beau

tho Fianuce Committee without question. large salary to the Governor, motu espesinily m HIB EXGALLENOT-The item under disons- conditions and tail to c

to come to the conclusion that it will be recommended that the same from the commencement.

̧A TRAVELLING HOSPITAL. Hon. Ho KAI-I seconded the rosolation on the Governors during the last niun or ten years sign is called "gal extension," and all those who that the place is bound to grow. It is import system beadopted by all the British poses. Tributary Nations is adinitely an improper

the spderstanding that the most important items barn vory seldom been with us. It may be bare spoken against it at prasant have, I think, BONDAY, 19th November. were to be diss. As the bou. member very great privilege and a very high bosuur to unanimously expressed their opinion ia faroar ant that we should not nuduly fature and increase our expenditure beyond "all" would lead to the supposition that of independent and equal Powers, tad toy, with Her Majesty'a mails. The ship hal objection to any item to lipouss the same in fall Govorner is very seldom in our midat. I thar sont site or by eresting a separate build-

Over Sex.

The P. & O. steamer Rural, Captain RJ.my right state; Lowever, it has bona the custom have a first dass Governor, bat do not think of the necessity of extending the gaol. The use of the word rises in which to receiro the representatives Sleemas, left. Hongkong on the 29th October at to allow the unoffoil sumber it they have ang we can afford it, mora especially, as I say, as the Whether it should be extendit band- what in warranted by the natural growth of Hongtong is included in the scheme, and even ask the Ministers to go there was to fire out plossent passage, bat ebs had to face Connoit as well as in Finance Cominittee, even if fors, in view of the uncertain sature of our ing on another site is a maitse of the Secre the Colony, but with an increasing trada aud such we hope is the caso, but it is possible offer them an indignity. The Ministers, a head wind all the way and at times was rolling they havenot voted against it in Flange Commit fatars revenue, move that this vote be redmoed.at prosent we have the instructions of the Secre growing population we may be unfished that that the expression is used in a qualified Lowever, meekly submitted, stipulating only tremendously. Passengers the carried in good tee, and I have no objection to all the demar the revenue will andfice to meet the legitimate sense and that the intention is simply that another hall should be prepared for zubers, and there was one feature worthy of tud by the hon. member being discussed now.

tary of Biata; but the nequssity of real extenTM demande unde upon it. Mr. Keswick says that those colonise which already collect fature receptions. The intention we, waspadal notice. The ship some to bave been

HIS EXCELLENCy-That not being seconded sion in some form has hitherto, I have the revenue is not elastic because we have trade statistics shall do so on a uniform believe, that an entirely new building should destined to carry a host of invalide, and that too senior uuoffeinl member, whose expariease of thin resolution.

HIS EXCELLENCY-I should like to ask the it falls to the ground and we pass on to the next soos by all the documents I have pernsed, ne those numerous sources of income which plan. Hongkong, we believe, is the only be erected, but so far we have not heard of hat, the first port of departure, thoro was a little top bar, whether he considers is consistent with reduction of the Colonist Beoretary's salary year to year hy the Superintendents of the Geor

frota oh of the parts called at. From Shang- Consoli is for larger than that of any other per

been admitted. I tuny sar. by almost orecy are found elsewhere; but it should not be British possessions of importance where no a comencombat having been made with European girl auffering from consumption. former presedente if, after the whcle of an Ap. Formerly the salary was $7.200 and them, in ad who have seen the very urgent nestssity for Hon. T. H, WATERED-I rio to more the ano. The nocassity of it has bus segal from forgotten that this is only because we have such statistics are collected, and it

| not thought fit to tap those maurces, and wo possible that she may be allowed to re-shall A new ball specially erected for the perfect invalid, and a victim to paralysis, mitse and all the itains diagnod and only a few of the Anditor-General feli upan the offior. Sir Becretary of State from Lard Carnation Lond the work, and we sincerely hope we nerer From Hongkong there was Pareo passenger, propriation Bill has heat through Finans Comdition to the Colonial Ecoretary's work, the daly it. It has been recognised by each soseding hope they never will be tapped. If our aim sain that unique position, to her own deti- reception of the Foreign Ministers would be sang other mufferings. From Singapore thers opposed, and after the Bill has been brought into William Marsh discharged the duties of both Kimberley, Lord Derby, Mr. Stanhope to the were simply to secure elasticity of revenuement. The general utility of trade statistics arded by the Chinees as only a second was Baropoan invalid and from Faung & The Commitee of the whole house and passed and Auditor General and Coleais] Secretary at the present Searstary of State, la fant, each succeed we might resors to Custom duties, tonnage no one would be fourd to dispute, and edition of the Hall of Tributary Natione, and ropean Indy, also a victim to paralysis--a curious the third reading is moved, that than the Bill salary of $7200. Tha datics of Auditor General ng Sacretary of State has not only spokua in dues, income tax, and various other sources there is no reason why they should be lass by whatever name it might be dignified it soloidence. Atsoa a Exropean lady was delivered should be recommitted to reopen a discussion on wore talon away from the Colonial Secretary and favour of it, but most strongly arged it of revenue which are made use of in other useful in Hongkong than elsewhere, The would still be places. Increased taxation, however, would only argument possessing any weight which Falece and not the Palace itself. If the invalids it most not be concluded that the pass

an outbuilding of the of a still-bos.child, but the mother was doing numerous items passed without discession or the salary of the Colonial Secretary, st of We talk of the narcsisted system and the separ

well noder medical treatment. From this list of opposition in Einau Committee? atrike more or less severely at the

remaining at 87,200, has been incr andata system. We have heart from the hon. mɔm- གང་

PIC was

was used against the

Hon. F. BYE-1t has been stated in this to 89,720, and the post of the departmen has bor who represents the Chinese that the or Registration of T- Ministers are not deemed worthy to enter the angers but not a pleasant time of it, or that the Cranoil fraca the chair that quofficial mambers gone on steadily increasing fin-397,000 in 1880 ate systent will not have any deterrent upon the sperity of the Colony, and it is there porte and Exports. Bill in 1888 was the Falace they ranaut without indignity to the invalids lacked comfort. The captain, the offers are autitled to vote against any item in to $35,000 this year. I cannot but regard this good what this musician Sars at a matter of importance that the cost of Gur-probable affect the collection of statisties nations they represent capt na audience the doctor, all were very kind, courteous, and fall Convoil. The late Mr. Johnson said Suomeass as pipessive and therefore I move this Chinese Tast ho only knows a matter of erument should be kept as low as is would have on the Chinese traders. At that elsewhere. It is stated that the action of solicitous for the comfort and convenien ca of that a member had a right even if he voted amendment souably possible. But some expenditure of time the stations on the outskirts of the the French and Russian Ministers is in pur- every ons. The captain would carefully see in favour of so item in Pinsoos Committee to

opiatori from his general knowledge of tie ocun- course than must be. Mr. Kawior, al Colony had not been taken over by the sunce of an entente between the two nations that the passengers had proper commod vota against it in fall Council, but I have maver

The resolation was not-accordet

trymen. On the other hand the Superintendenta though he thinks the Due in not elastic, Foreigu branch of the Chinese Imperial with regard to Chinese affairs genstall, lot and would often visit the invalids and on known it done.

Hoo T. H. WHIT) The Andit depart of the Gaol, who have been close cbservere of fally recoguises this fact and says he Maritime Customs, and it was considered in including frontier regulations,

quirs after their bealth. On Sundays: service HIS EXCELLENCE-After that expression of vata be reduced by the sam of $10,000..

meat comes at and I beg to move that the the Chicas prisonere conftand in the gaol, havo a Bussian was held in the morning and evening; for the pinion by the senior unoficial member, I love does not think a shrinkage is to be fearsome quarters that the collection of trade protectorate over Korea, and other matters.whole of the day the crew had almost no work, td to the heu member ty whether ha wishes tion, Eaving already done so in the Finsnes should like to road one passage from the report all nanimously stated the contrary. And as su ed to that point at which par necessary statistics in Hongkong itself would give the Whatever differences of opinion may arise and were allowed to take a holiday. The ship's docto propon his rusolution or not.

Ho Ho KAYI beg to second this resola. ounce of praation is worth a pound of theory. I expenditure will be in exoses of our revenue: Chiness the impression that the. Egues with regard to the other articles of the tar was also sealous and painstaking, devoting bris

Committee and all the reasone having been stated of the Superintendent of the Gaul for the year We do not think there will be any permane might be used for squeeze purposes and agreement, the one relating to the Audiences and attention to the invalids, and praring to hear whether the hon. member opposite (Mr.

Hon T. II. WHITEHEAD-I should be glad there, I will not detain the Cenacil further. 1885--

A ilivision was then taken with the result ent shrinkage at sli; fuctuations bere may that even in this free port the Bative trader question, if it be of the character represent-melt af great use and assistance to them. Re Konridk) desires an opportunity of expressing that the Hoa T, H. Whitehead and Hou. Howards are not very deterrent I hate fair grid- and no doubt will he, but the general tous would not be free from the clipbes of the ed, pannot fail to sommend the approval of the Parsos invalid, but it is a metter for my little of the Colony, and in regard to its reapons and 3. Keswick, Hon, B. Ayrin, and all the offcial 90 prisoners of the Griminal class, confided for "That shark sentapices passed in saciated had somewhat a serious case nuder him, as regards himself in connection with the Enansial position Kai voted for the amendment, and obe on, J. anon. oney yet inevitably be towards expansion, Mandarins. Whatever forge there might be all Furorezne of where nationality red porratulation that by constant sudasteful aften, its heavy and constantly increasing expenditure member palast. The agendant was therefore short periods for want of finding security There are getiorally in goal from 20 to open wichuak tapping BLY LOUNGER "XL" ** PALA. MYANMART #1 Maʼdar Bal" pince line in the Fay 201??

(perally caly for dollers) for good

fore

The action was not recorded.