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·FRIDAY, FEBRUARY. 8, 1924

MILITARY

LANDS

TRANSFER.

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tence at certainty the number of years which will elapse before the Colony, by re-sale of the lands, will finally recover its money, with interest. That the period will be a long one is certain, On the evidence of past history, which is Take the old Post Office site of the only definite evidence aval- $36.09 a foot. Now the presentable, the period will cover so very -value, at 7 per cent, if it was to be many years that interest upon the sold at that rate after five years, Colony's disbursements becomes would be $25.75 a foot. The pre sent value of the old Post Office sits, if it is to be realised in ten years, would be $18.34 & foot. Take Murray Parade ground on the same principle. Taking that 122 a foot, the price given, taking off for roads, the value, as I have said, is $34.50 a foot. Take off the half dollar to allow for Crown rent, which will be reimposed for the

THE CHINA MAIL.

The Colonial Secretary: For 1921, 1922, and the first nine months of 1923 they were seven million dollars. That is up to the time of Sir John Oakley's arbitra- tion.

Hon. Mr. Pollock; Then does the cost of reprovisioning include the cost of laying-out?

The Colonial Secretary: Yes. The definition of reprovisioning a predominating factor most is: "Reprovisioning connotes the rales placing of the troops in a position materially affecting the which are now fixed as represent in no way less advantageous than ing the ultimate cash return from their present position as regards, the Military lands."

primarily strategic needs, and also houses, communication, light, recreation and

Matter of Guesswork.

does not differ much from that of The agreement arrived at locally Sir John Oakley's figures, except as regards Murray parade ground, Murray barracks and the small

of Queen's Road to 100 feet. The

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money for ten years we must get difference in the two rates for may be in a position to advise the charge of having forged and uttered/on Wednesday, The Present won UNIVERSITY 18T v. C.R.C. 1st. $17,000,000 will not, of course, be/ Murray Parade ground and Murray Government in regard to putting utterer were, I declare upon my

"the same time it must necessarily, and it is most difficult to make any ring to the laying out. Un 1910, chained to a Chinaman and C. Choa. c Ponsonby Fane,

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decent man

chance to make good, VARSITY CRICKET. and therefore I have made up my Laying Out the Land. Hon. Mr. Pollock: I suppose the mind to quit. Seven years ago I

PRESENT DEFEAT FAST. ` was unjustly sent to prison in | military authorities-assuming we

The following me the scores of Shahbuddin land, that leaves a value of $34 areas fronting on Queen's Road.support this resolution, and it another inan's stead in one of the

'Balbetchet carried will allow the Public cruellest cases of deliberate, organis foot. If we are out of our money a large part of which small areas Works staff of the Colony fullied perjury which the law courts of the University Past XI. versus the for five years we must get $47.69 foot for it. If we are out of our will be wiped out by the widening liberty to survey this land so that I was wrongfully convicted on the University ground at Pokfulam

New South Wales have ever seen. University Present XI. played on Ng Bow-poo Works Department $6691 a foot for that area. Our

a tolegrain. The actual forger and on the first innings :---

PAST-1st Innings. barracks was very large. Your spent at once. It will be distribui optimist might no doubt tell us

up the land for sale.

solemn oath, the two principal wit-A H. Rumjaho, c Balhetchet, HE: the Officer Administering esses for the Crown, but I went to

b Yeow ed, as I have shown, over a con- that we shall easily get our money the Government: You do not mi, and not they. I went there in "Sze-kwong, b Shabuddin siderable period of years; but at back. That is a matter of opinion, mean surveying; you are refer take us very long period to get definite statement.

Rumlaba Russian Finas. In prison I behaved The inhabit doubtedly the military will grant back that money which we put out. ants of a few years: back would all facilities.... When the resol like a man, and, never lost a single W. Gattina, b Yeoward

H. C. Hung, Shahbuddin, when I In the 20-years, 1901-1920 in-

b. Rumjahn clusive, we got altogether five and Card as Incredible the present tion has been passed, it will be good conduct mark and

came out again in 1918 I believed a half million dollars from land day prices. It is merely a matter the first thing to consider.

of guesswork what the future has Hon. Mr. Pollock: I mean, Sir, the world would be willing to exteuil Wei Wing-lok, b. Rumjaho.....

Yew Man-tsun, o Osman, b sales. How long will it take us to in store for us. I submit, however, that I suppose the lay out could be 10 me its kindly toleration, if not a Yerw gel back $17,000,000 from the sales it is of immense indirect benefit to made almost immediately, and deceived. No matter what I have

helping hand.

I was soon un-w. Hall, b Yeow of these military lands apart from

A. J. Kew, not out the ordinary land sales of the the Colony that we should get there will be no necessity to wait tried to do it has been smashed PJ. M. Jack, b Yeom Colony? I will read extracts from possession of these military lands until the military have removed.

attacked, or misrepresented by some H. E. Sir Chaud Severn, b H.E the Officer Administering inhuman hound." per through communications and the Government: Quite

Osman develop the Colony on its natural

Gran Madison Hervey, domain

Extras lines. It is perhaps fortunate that like to ask whether, in the event agent, walked into the Central Hon. Mr. Pollock: I should now ontor, journalist, and publicity. The Government's Case. these lands have been held so long,

Total "Evidence has been called as to as it were, in trust by the military of this resolution being accepted, Police Station on November 29 and the probable period which must authorities, so that at the present the Government will consider the approached the sergeant in charge of elapse before the whole of the land time we have learned from the question of bringing out consider the station. I want you to take surrendered can be disposed of by severe lesson of the mistakes of the able staffs in sufficient time for me into custody," he remarked,

Balhetchet them to deal with this very con sale or otherwise. It has been past and are ready to lay them out siderable quantity of land which body else. He was in an excited Shahbuddin

"As I might kill myself and some- shown that in the years 1901-1902 for the development of the Colony will then be at the disposal of the state, and the sergeant realised that Bujahn ...... inclusive there were no great on the most up-to-date lines. The Government. In this waya certain it was necessary to be tactful with Yeow fluctuations in the sums received Government confidently recom- from land sales, which totalled in mends to this Council and to the amount of interest would be saved. him, "Do not do anything rash. HE. the Officer Administering shell do what I can for you,' the twenty years approximately Colony adoption of the

the Government: We are prepar added the policeman, who tele-

PRESENT 1st Im $5,500,000. It has been shown that resolution before us today.

Ing.

phoned to police headquarters. The A. A Bumjahr, b Ng Sze in the years 1921 and 1922-and-the-Before-1-sit-down-i-wish-to ex-

The Colonial Secretary: There matter of sending Hervey to the

-kwong-wowtrenyi first nine months of 1923 the press the great obligation the is one point which occurs to me, retention house was discussed, but B. N. Balhetchot, e Severu, b

Hunt. receipts, from land sales approxi- Colony is under to His Excellency mated to a total of $7,000,000. The the General Officer, Commanding though it does not arise directly it was decided to wait till later M. H: Roffey Hall, b Ng Government submits that, when and Colonel Davy, for their in-out of the hon. member's question. hefore deciding whether or not to the demand of the present boom is valuable co-operation in bring- Various persons have asked me do so. satisfed, there is no ground foring these difficult negotiations to why there is no separate charge in supposing that receipts from land what I might hope to be regarded this valuation for buildings. The sales during the following twenty a successful conclusion. (A reason is that the land, with, for years, will be appreciably greater Than the receipts during the years 1901-1920.

a statement of the Government's case which was put before the arbitrator.

plause).

the

The Attorney General: I beg 10 second the resolution.

Questions in Committee.

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example, Murray Barracks on it, is less

valuable than with the Barracks removed. The Cost of removal is about equal to the cost "Sales during the years after the

of the building. In the case of a Military lands are ready for the

The Hon. Mr. Pollock: I under-bullding such as a hospital, how- market will not be confined to those stand that if this Council goes in ever, if we were to take it over and lands, but will, as heretofore, be

to Committee, unofficial mem-use it, we should have to pay for spread over areas in all parts of the bers might be allowed to put a the land and the building separate Colony. A proportion only of the few questions. A number ofly. proceeds, namely that part of the questions have occurred to me The 1922" Agreement." money which is received from the and I will now formally move sale of the Military lands, will be that the Council go into Com Colonial Secretary tell us whether Hon. Mr. Pollock: Could the available for re-imbursing the mittee.

Sir John Oakley, in making his Colony in respect of the cash paid Hon Mr. P. H. Holyoak second award, took into consideration the Marketing the Land. In Committee, the Hon. Mr.question of the interest the Colony would lose by not having posses sion of this land for many years.

The Colonial Secretary: It was

out for Military.reprovisioning.

ed.

"If, when the land is ready for Pollock said: My first question sale, the Government places any relates to the plan of the military I should like to know large quantity upon the market at lands.

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such rates as it will fetch, there will whether the plan was that sent for/put before him in an elaborate Walker was a woman who would be A. H. Rumjahn, b Rumjeln 45 Toi. Reserve: Andrew Cheung,

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cide was the result of seeing a play were made at a Paddington inquest on Mrs. Mary Johanna Elizabeth Walker, 26, a Dutch shorthand-

C. W. Lam and R. Ponsonby writer. of Talbot-road. Paddington,

filled room in her bouse. W.. who was found dead in a gas Fane did not bat.

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Yew Man-tsun..... 0. 22 matinée, of the play "Outward Ng Sze kwong....19.1 0.69

Mr. J. T. Grein. the dramatic. Choo.....

4 ritic, who had occasionally employ. H. C. Hunt ed her, said that in his opinion Mrs.

FAST-2nd Innings.

series of figures.

HE. the General Officer Com- much affected by such a play. It Ng Sze-kwong, b Romijnhn...... be a general slump in land values the consideration which will upset all calculations! members?

manding: Mention has been made was an exalted allegory, an attempt C Chan, c Osman, b Rumjahr.. based upon the past records of land The Colonial Secretary: Yes.

of an agreement of 1922. That to picture what happened to human W. Gittins, & Lam, b' Rum-

jahn sales; which records could not

Hon, Mr. Pollock: The next agreement was not really an agree: beings after they died. Two of the

4 characters were persons who were H. CHunt, b Balbetchet...... therefore form any criterion as to question 1 wa wito ask is what ment. It was a recommendation supposed to have committed suicide Wei Wing-lak, ahent the values which would be received approximately, will be the cost of from the military authorities here

Yew Man-tam, b Ng Bow-poo.. 9 in a League match against the Royal by gas poisoning, for the lands in the circumstances reprovisioning?

to the War Office to accept as a suggested. If on the other hand

The Coroner (Mr. A. D. Con W. Hell, b Rutojaha 9 Navy Rnd XI. at Soukampoo to The Colonial Secretary: It is basis of negotiation certain figures: Does this play hold up out.J. Kew, e Lam, 6 Rumjahn. oo at 21 D. DR. the Military lands are offered at rather difficult to

say. The agreed on for valuation, and also a wrong thing? the prices then prevailing in Government's estimate is that it the question of how much percentens & Yes, it is calculated H.E. Sir Claud Severn, not out. J. M. Jack, c Yeow, b Ramjaha respect of similar property, the will be less than this sam

age should be added to that old to convey a deterrent impression, for Extras $17,000,000. We have on the one valuation to be acceptable. There it tells there is no immediate mercy Government contends that past experience goes to prove that side the $114,000, and also the was no actual agreement drawn up for suicides. They are not allowed The land will be taken up very credit of this land beyond Laichi- would like to make that point

to appear before the Great slowly and that very many years kok; setting against this the 17 clear.

Examiner. They are compelled to must elapse before it can possibly million dollars owing, that leaves

The Hon. Mr. Pollock: I would travel back and forth between the a debit balance of about 15 million like to ask for an adjournment for world end the hereafter until ane recover from sales of the Military lands the money, with in-dollars. The total cost of repro- week. My Unofficial" collea- terest, which it shall have laid out visioning will be less than that gues will meet me at 12 o'clock on day they have to take up again their i in Military reprovisioning. Ex-sum Lought also to mention that Monday next, and by ThursdayThe Corner said that after hear pensive Crown land has never it was partly arranged with the we shall be in a position to laying what Mr. Grein said it seemed found a ready market in normal War Office that we reprovision

H.E. the Officer Administering times. The Old Post Office site was fully whatever the cost may be. If our views before the Council. on the market for a numberof years, we do not use the whole of the the Government: The discussion and it did not find a buyer until debit balance on this reprovision on the resolution will continue at

meeting late in 1921. In 1910 the Governing, the military authorities will the ment proposed to put the Cenotaph call upon us for the remainder of Council, which will be site up to auction as a marine tor that balance for future works.

Thursday next. The stands adjourned.

Finding the Money.

of

The Hon. Mr. Pollock: I should Mke to ask if the 15 million dollars will have to be paid out of current revenue?

at $30 a foot. The prospective purchaser would not bid. at this rate, and it was decided that $25 would be a sufficient upset price. The prospective purchaser's agent was uncertain whether he would bid at this reduced rate, and the matter was allowed to drop. There has been very little demand for Hon. Mr. Pollock: Is it then vacant Crown land at Kowloon proposed to reprovision out of our Polat, which has been unoccupied reserves?. for many years.

Other Land

The Colonial Secretary: We have reserves to a very large amounti

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EX-CONVICT'S FLIGHT AND BATTLE TO HIVE.

The Colonial Secretary: It is not "I am weary, and recent with a matter for putting up any very blazing fury the lot that has been "Before the Military lands can large sum at once. Payment will imposed on me the burden of be ready for the market, very large go on of course, as buildings pro- carrying, the guilt of others; so I areas of new building land along gress, and will no doubt, be put have made up my mind to quit the Eastern Praya and to the north before the Council in due course Jesus Christ bore his crose for seven of the Kowloon Peninsula will be We have cash in hand.

hours, I have carried mine alone for available.

Hon. Mr. Pollock: Yes, we have pire than seven years, and now, Any estimate of the value that cash in hand. The point I want with the salt tears and sweat, of should be fixed upon the Military particularly, to emphasise is that deepair upon my face, I throw it lands depends mainly upon the understand that it will not be a down. opinion which it formed regarding book entry. We shall have to find These are hot lines culled from a the future course of events in the the money somehow. Another Brema, but are contained in a letter Colony Past history shows a point is, can the Colonial Secretary dressed to the Sydney City record of steady and continuous give us the figures relating to the Coroner, and received recently progress, with temporary booms Murray Parade Ground Marray The letter is signed Grant Madison and reactions, and no argument Barracks and the land across Hervoy, and was written from has been advanced to show that Queen's Road,In the agreement Bank, Chambers, Goulburn Siset, future progress will not be of March, 1922, were they consider city I am tired of being the along similar lines. I is ably less than the figures now put scapegoat of this fraudulent co possible to estimate with pefore unt Could The Colental spiracy against a

pecalled Secretary give us these figures? women, and chik

The Colonial Secretary: will|elviliantion, send them to you.

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proximate accuracy both the period of time, overwhich the Colony will be disbursing money! and so the period of time, Jian which the fitar land wil handed over, but I hardl "possible to gauge with any

Hon Mr. Pollock. Then, Sir, ing another question to, what were the posed totals for the land sales of test made 1923 and 1923 respectivel

earthly existence.

desirable that he and the jury should attend a performance of the play,

Edwin Walker, a jeweller's sales- man, the husband, said he could not suggest any reason why bis wife should take her life. She, returned from visiting some relatives in Hol- land rather depressed.

A verdict of Suicide while of Un- sound Mind, was returned.

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