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AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIA-

TION.

MOTORISTS' 'TROUBLES

DISMISSED:

PROBLEM OF THE CHAUFFEUR,

THE

CHINA MAIL.

which cost $100 a month and was not made are : The third resolution he wished to bring forward was that the

books supplied by the Police. I regret would like to learn to drive their cars that little use is made of the Police and I would ask any members who efforts in this. The arrangement would be willing to teach other mam was made with a view to controll-bers to send in their names The Association should make arrange ing the conduct of chauffeurs. Committes would also like to have meat with us or more of the local Members should make a point of the opinion of the meeting on the garages to undertake repairs for keeping these character books question of issuing badges to drivers members at a reasonable cost and

I suggest, after members have had of Commerce Room at the City Hall an opportunity to discuss matters, yesterday afternoon. The Hes. Mr. that, if the meeting considers it Met Messer presided and the advisable, a special committee de members of the Committe pre-nt formed to consider the question of included: Dr. G. M. Harsign, Mr.J.: chauffenre' wages and any other allied Bell-Irving. Mr. W. E.. Roberts, Mr. | matters.

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guarantee satisfaction, the association

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SPORT.

FJÖFBALL.

KOWLOON F. C. TEAMS.

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servea: Lasmussen and Estorffe.

SATURDAY'S FIXTURES.

K

2ND DIVISION.

mer added that he knew the objection

South China "B" v. U.A.C., South to some of his resolutions would be China ground. that the Association had no but he thought that if they went ground.

Wilts v. St. Josephs, Navy "B" about it in the right direction they RGA. v. "Cariew," Sookumpoo would 6 obtar all that was needed. ground. It seemed to him that if a central University v. Ulab, Club ground. garage could be found and members Kowloon v. Penjabis, Kowloom were prepared to make use of it, it ground. would be more less self supporting. Mr. Komer did not think there was

South China "A" v. "Carlisle" Navy"A" ground.

themselves. Members should co- I was recently asked as to the usa of

First Division, Club on Saturday, operate with the Police in their the lower rosd, viz., Victoria or undertake to investigate any com Murrison and Oswick; Coupland, on Club ground at 4.30 pm-ke endeavours to control and assist trathc Jubilee Road. There is no regulation plaints. He had personally experienced Werman and McKelvie: Millard. Proposals for regulating the wages and keep their chauffeurs to cheat present but the general understand-

a very great deal of trouble in getting ese chauffeurs were discussed at a sideration of each others rights and only be used by cars coming into he knew of a good many others who and promoting the efficienes of Chin etiquette of the road in mutual con- ing seems to be that this road should repairs satisfactorily carried out and Pasco, Townsend, A. Dancan and resting of the Hongkong Automobile į comfort.

Hongkong.

Second Division v. Panjahis on H Association held in the Old Chamber i

had complaints to make in this I have also received several com. plaints as to the way cars are driver that more frequent meetings of the Hower, & White; Donovan, Palmer, respect. His fourth resolution was fuskett; Spary and Adams; Roberts, ground, Happy Valley at 3.00pm- in Hongkong. I do not think Association should be held to enable Masan, G. Duncan and Preddy. Re- motorist in Hongkong would like to members to express their views and give cause for the other users of the receive reports from the committee. road to think that those driving He thought that whilst, if he might cats consider the roads are for them say so, the Association was in its in- J. McCubbin and Mr. C. Lauritson I would take this opportunity of re- only. I would ask all who use motor fancy, they might derive more assist- with Mr. F. Bevington (Honferring to the Club Room in the cars to insist on drives driving at the ance by obtaining the views of mem- Secretary) Amongst The general Hongkong Club annexe, which has speeds allowed by law, namely 15 bers on various paints. Mr. Plum body of members present were less been opened since August 1st. Most raides an hour in Hongkong and Kow A. Stevenson, D. G. M. Berzand, W... of the English motoring periodicals loon and 10 miles an hour in Control E. Mackenzie. P. M. Haden J. are placed in this room and arrange. Areas. I bave been particularly asked Smith, T. Oliphant, A. Fothergill ments have been made for them to be to mention Caire Road, where there J. A. Pazumior. C. B. Bug, Ho sent ready. So far the Club rooni are nine schools. No one can expect Check. H. A. tro, C. D. Marl, Sha oy been little used and it support children to have much knowledge of Kumor, A. K. Henderson. O, Marriott continies lacking, it is proposed to the pace a car is being driven at, but and H. E. Smith.

close it at the end of February. It if they see a car coming along at a The Chairman sa:-Te Com was opened because several members fast speed, they are very apt to get mite has prived. ftora time to expressed the wish to see the motoring frightened and lose their heads. All time, compla,urs inoma muumbers as to papers and that a room be provided the control areas are given in the the condnet zal pay of chauffeurs, where such might be read. You will Association's year book, and I would and the Committee has come to the notice that under Rule of this also draw members' attention tor possibility of obtaining a garage. He suggested that they might make opinion that the best way to deal Association. Clause (f), that it is the note in the Year Bock on the with this utter would be to have a stated as one of the objects of this principle of Safety First" and the arrangements with one of the garages meeting of members to fully ass Asociation that a Club House or remark regarding Garden Read. The He supported the idea that all chauf to house their cars on special terms. The matters. A ciretlar was isced. Garage shall be provider. The Club Poire have not an easy task in con feurs should be compelled to pass an together sita a drd; agremear, and Rona is open from 9-12 noon and trolling the traffic, and do not stop seismication and obtain a certificate meters were asked to forward their from 1-7.30 p.m. and is available for car or speak to the driver unless before being allowed to take charge views in writing to the secretary. It me by members, both ladies and necessary. Any complaints as to the is a matter of disappointment that songe tlemen.

Police should be sent in writing to the C.S.P., and members are asked not to enter into any argument or discussion with a Police Officer or to try and make excuses at the time, palice and to say that the Association even the occupants of the cat have A view to amassing the interests is always willing to cooperate with told the chauffeur to drive at a of members and forming a starting the police in matters that concern the higher speed than that allowed by base for further discussion. Many many safety of the community I will now the law. think that the local chauffeurs should ask the Secretary to make some re be capable of attending to mure mate marks on the letters that have been ters than thuse given in the druiar received, and other matters that have and draft agreement. The cup fitkos been brought to his notice. put forwani in those do amerits were The Hon. Secretary made the fol. intended as minimum requirements, lowing statement:- and there can be no objection to any person agreeing fur additional servie, 18, for instance, the suffer to do

few members hate. recorded their I would like also to take this oppor. views but it is hoped that at this turity of expressing on behalf of the mecting many may give us the benefit Committee their appreciation of the of their opinions. The eitentar and improveden: in traffic control by the draft agrosticct were distribut, i with

In regard to the new namber plates that have recently been issued, a thin fiere of board should be fixed to the holder on the car, and the plate screwed on to the board. This will obviate ratting and save the enamel plata from breaking.

A car.

of

Kick-off at 3 pm, skarp.

TENNIS.

ship of the Civil Service Club was played off on Sunday last between E. Fincher and B. W. Bradbury, and

The final in the Tennis Champion-

resulted in a decisive win for the former: 6-1, 6-2, 6-3.

Mr. H. E. Smith said that the Hongkong Automobile Association was an organisation formed solely for the benefit and protection of the owner-driver and as such it was uo- Mr. Lauritsen: I did not say trades- satisfactory that any member con-men. I said the general public. pected with the motor trade should Mr. Bernard doubted whether the be identiñed with the Club's affairs, meeting was in order in passing the He knew it was somewhat difficult resolution. No notice had been given to bring forward a suggestion like this of it without sorne slight indication of a per The Chairman agreed that notice sonal grievance regarding the existing should have been given. He thoroughly state of affairs but he could assure appreciated Mr. Bernard's point, and members that was not so in this case, he thought it better that the resolu- It was impossible for the providertion should be brought forward at a and customer to see eye to ere in subsequent meeting.

tioa: "That the Hongkong Automo- as their only reason for joining, ed by moving the following resolu-themselves against the trade. That bile Association is an organisation Mr. Bernard, referring to the classi- formed solely for the benefit and fiction of drivers, considered that protection of owner drivers and as drivers should be called upon to pass such it is undesirable that any mem- an examination and obtain a certi- bers connected with the motor tradelicate which they could present for should be actively identified with the employment and which might also control of the Association's affairs."

Mr. Plummer seconded.

The Chairman pointed out that if the resolution was passed it would debar several members from sitting on the committee.

who garages

were

The question of a garage has been considered, bat it is not possible at The Chairman, having invited dis present to get a site or rent suitable cussion, Mr. Planner referring to the was not fair to strain the generosity which practicaly altered the constitu regard to the finances of each. It Mr. Hodgson said that a resolution all th washing and nut to claim the premises, and the Association is not suggested classification of drivers. assistance of a coolie. The sa pusition to expend the amount aid that classification was all right if any trade member of the Association of the Association could not be mentioned were also intended for which would be necessary even to fit they were in a position to enforce it. tion as to expect him to forego his brought forward without proper maximum wages, and it is to be hoped out premises for a garage. The ques- In the first place, he thought they own profits by suggesting means notice being given. that, as the local supply of chanteurs tion of appointing official repairers would be faced with a boycott, which whereby they could obtain cheaper Mr. H.E. Smith expreased a desire increases, that scale-which has been considered, but the Com-he very much doubted whether they re elsewhere. Either he had to to withdraw the resolution. appears generous romazed to a place mittee du not at present see their way would be able to stand. In the second lose or the members of the Associs Mr. Smith said that members like Shanghai- may decream. The to make a definite appointment. ple, he did not think they would be tion had to lose. Mr. Smith conclad-joined an association for protecting wages question is a very difficult one In regard to the question of teach-ath to carry out the classification, and I doubt if we can come to any ing drivers, I had, on reference to the considering that there were something definite arrangement at this meet files of the Association, that some time like 400 or 500 chauffeurs in the jcg. Motoring in Hongkong is as the V.M.C.A. did put forward a Colony. With regard to the agree in its infancy. There have been di- scheme, and I now suggest that they ment which had been proposed, he exities in the supply of drivers, men be apprarled again on the matter. doubted whether they get drivers to were obtained from Shanghai, putting The Association could, of course, sign it, and even if they did, whether up immediately the rate of wages, engage a teacher, but I doubt if it would prove any great value. I above those obtaining in the sister aay

enable them to obtain higher wages. member would have

suf- think their mothers, would die just as port. Cantonese are now becoming dient time, if willing to give they do to-day and they would be

Whilst he agreed it would be highly Available in increasing nutribe. but the attention necessary to ensure going back to Canton and neither

desirable to reduce the wages in some the wages are kept up. Up to the that everything was being done in the you nor your agreement would be

as he felt that they would ex- present there has been competitios to best possible manner. On the other able to stop them," Mr. Flummer

to do so. It seemed to him that the perience great difficulty nattempting obtain good drivers; in the future hand the Y.M.C.A. could possibly in- added. hupe there will be competition for clude the teaching of motor-ear driv- Mr. Plummer said that his ides was; Mr. Lauritsen said there were the question was by getting a larger only way they could deal with drivers to obtain good employers. in: in their syllabus and from what I to assist in arriving at some means owners of Every member desires to pay a reason know of the YSLC.A., I think if they whereby they could obtain a general also priv. te owners and they were as

number of drive and then when the able wage but there is little reason took the matter up it would be done reduction in wages and with thin Association as the other members regard to the suggested agreement, he why the wage of a particular class properly and satisfactorily. The ques-view he had given notice of the fol-

much entitled to the benefits of the Ply reached the demand the wages question would solve itself. With should be higher than that paid to tion of terms, etc., should I think, be lowing resolution; That the Asso The Association was not started for did not think any member would like persons skilled in a similar degree and left to a special Committed to arrange, ciation should take practical steps to

the berefit of motor drivers alone to enter into an agreement with the higher than that at Shargiai. Littie, In regard to the question of classify promote and encourage driving by but for the general public as well houseboy, and it seemed to him equally however, can be done in this direction ing drivers, I do not think the scheme private owners and that the Associs in order that better traffic reguls-uceatisfactory that they should make unless the members unite together suggested would be found workable,tion should promote a school of in- tions might be obtained. With re-one with the chanteur. His own and form an organisation with rules and I suggest as an alternative, two struction where Chinese drivers, par. gard to tyres that was a matter which am kept and saltered with, per-classes of drivers only, driver atticularly members' nominees, could entirely for individual members.

experience was that drivers had Laps, in some uses pursunal incur $30 40 per month and fitter drivers be taught at a reasonable cost. He The Chairman spoke of the ex-structions but where they had not always been willing to carry out in- at $10 50 per month, the latter to thought that a good many private cellent pioneer work Mr. Lauritsen done so they had been."sacked." If It is important that car owner, take | have a full mechanical knowledge and owners, if they had better facilities, had done in the Colony for the bene-everybody dealt with them in that an interest in their cars and gain antero be able to do all ordinary repairs. would learn to drive themselves. He fit of motorists. Mr. Lauritsen was way they would get no trouble from slight-knowledge of their mechanism It will probably be possible for the certainly thought the Association in the business and, of cour c, in-that source. (Hear, heat.) and condition. Attention to the petro Association, with the help and vil consumption is well with the Pule, get chaufeurs at promoting a training school for entirely to the meeting as to whether wages it seemed to be the general of might take some steps with a view to terests clashed. He would leave it The Chairman said that as regarda whde. In many cases a good deal of these Iates Liter oa. I would Chinese drivers. vil purchased never finds its way fatul suggest that employers treat

garage owners or persons connected view of the meeting that they The second resolution, Mr. Plummer with the motor trade should be asked should allow the law its agner's car, and a howledge part, say $10, at the monthly wage,said, he wished to bring before the not to serve on the Committee.

of supply the engine and its working says many as a bonus for satisfactory conduct meeting was to the effect that the

and demand to take its course. sa item in the repair ball. I may ay and driving, turning up to time for Association should take steps to Mr. Lauritsen's remarks that the not been so many care imported a Mr. H. E. Smith took exception to Wages were coming down. There had that, later on, the Losmittee hope to appointment, etc., that is to say, if establish a be able to arrange for lectures on car driver was receiving $50, he would members, particularly owner-drivers, the benefit of members but also for the this continued that they would get central garage where Association was formed not only for last year and the result would be if] driving, mechanism, etc., provided on y receive the full amount if his could safely leave their cars under public, including tradesmen. sufficient number of members are will-conduct had been satisfactory in all cover during the day and obtain was for the benefit of members could members would agree that if they What drivers at a cheaper rate. He thought ing to attend.

pects. I understand some of the supplies of petrol, etc., at reasonable not be for the benefit of tradesmen.tried to force wages down there would You will notice that, on the circular,garages here work on this principle.rates. He suggested that that would The two interests were diametrically be very few who would fall into line. reference is made to the character I am told that several car owners

be of more use than a Club-room opposed.

The meeting then adjourned

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