No, 1197-August 27, 1880.]
The Minutes of the fast Mosting, bold on the 15th instant, are read and confirmed, (1) Road the following Despatches in connection with the first formation in this Colony of tho Finance Committent
0.0. Despatek, No. 5, of 8th January, 1870.
Governor's Despatch, No. 68, of lat August, 1972.
0.0. Despatch, No. 145, of 8th October, 1572
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A full discussion took place when the ab. fully and freely. He quoted in support of his nagor of the Cha Co.) in hore, and I under THE SCANDAL OF THE GUNS, had given her in the inmensa stores of Before bringing before the Executive therefore been no minutes or records of
Administration, as we have constantly soal and iron which she alone in Europe Council the resolution proposed yesterday these informal incotings kept. It is im- sent members were present, and I am bound view of thembject the opinions of Me Kos. stand from him that the meaning of the by the Finance Committed, which resolu possible now to say how many of these in to say the result was pretty much the same wick and Mr Jackson, both of whom had promissory note is as follows. When the insisted, in the first duty of government. possossed, and from being the first who was tion involves the serious question whether formal mestings were held. Einco I have as before. My hon, friend Mr Keswick expressed themselves in favour of contina books were made up in June 1885, thero The proposition ought to be a traiam; and enabled to take advantage of the revolution the practics of many years nok is to be boon Asting Attorney Gonoral I have not before the left the Colony statoil distinctly, ing the sittings of the Finance Cominittue in was an amount short paid of about set for the last twenty years, at all events, ia industry from the discovery of steam, de- now suddenly changed, I wish that ques called the committed together.
committee together. Besides that he was in favour of matters being dia private. Ho also thought the present 2500 Mr Martin agreed to take an if has been the working cloud of the activa elopment of railways and ateauiers, do tion to be considered at a full moating of the ordinanoon I introduced which had cussed in public, and also on votes for large system- gave all the publicity which was I.O.U. for this amount from the pri- section of Liberals that legislation is the while the rest of Europe: was split up into soner and to allow him to pay it back true business of statesmen. Meer ques. litla potty states subject to revolutions, was
pay it actions inistration depends, the Fiance Committee as I am afraid that passed the Law Revision Committee, the soms of money, but he also stated that he necessary.
During his remarks the Hun. P. Ryrie by instalments. Prisoner pund various tions of routine, upon which in the last able for a while to distance all her coopeti. the resolution is for from expressing the principal measures introduced by me have, would be sorry to go the Finance Commit been the Bills of Sales Ordinance, the
the too done away with. Now, Sir, to point may interrupted him by saying that on no ac instalments and reduced the amount to the resert oficient administration depends, have tora. But all this has been altered. Germany. viowe of the By request the majority of the Marabera. Iben al mesures introduced by me have, wont of money, but he also stated that vetem gave all the publicity went 2500. Mr Martin agrid of about yet for the last ought to be a frais; and enabled and from being the first whe request the Finnnes Committee therefore Peace Preservation Ordinance, and the Ra-argument, we have heard it stated fro count should any information be withheld sum of $323, mentioned in the depositions, boon deemed unworthy of a Minister. His Italy, Russia, and the rest of the word request the
was of quently in this Colony by the best legal from the public.
and in June or July of this year when they mission is to slabomto naw laws. The have boon formed into streng and united to meet again on Tuesday next, the 20th Formatory fchools Ordinance. instant, at 4 pm when I trust that all opinion that there was nothing in those authority, namely by the Attorney Gonetal In proof of his assertion that matters balanced the books they found out the more of them he can produce, and the more peoples, with strong and settled Govern- the Members will Snd it convenient to at ordinances which required them to be dis- and the Queen's Counsel who is at present might be discussed fully in public, the Larger deficiency of about 81,157, and there- hercio, dramatic, mud generally startling merits. The bulk of these nations, espo tend, and will consider the proposition cussed in the Law Committes, before being abeunt, that these sacret meslings were und Asting Attorney General cited the discus upon took stope to prosecute the prisoner. they are, the greater will be his fans. To cially French, Germans, Italians, and
Mr Leach the was charged them made by the Honorable A. P. McEwen or considered in Committee of the whole Coon constitutional and against the Charter and sions on the Stamp Ordinanco, Lan Ordin- Mr Leach naked his Lordship not to for concoct startling policies, to derine Ingen Belgians, are man for a better educated, ery other that may be made in Hou there. sil, and therefore I have not called meet. Instructions of the Colony; and that has ance and the last vote on the fortifications got that by the information to which the aus sophistries in their defence, to justify more thrifty, and willing, to work much
f-Governmont House, Hongkong, 16things
nesar bocn contradicled.. I entoavoured to He encoded by proposing the following prisoner had pleaded guilty he was charged them before vast audiencse of half-trained longer hours, and able to live for half the
henger July, 1886.
sung That it is now with embezzling kan sums only in Decora rainde in Boods of washy rhetoric, this has money that Englishmen of the same aless Hon. Mr Ryrie-Have you any record of get the legal members of the present Fin arzendtucht these four meetings? Who wore presont anca Committee to give some expression of competent for any viomber of Council when ber 1885, and that it did not appear in sy been the royal road to greatness and to require, and have consequently more than and who were not?
pinion, but beyond dealing in vague gone a motion to refer a matter to the Finance way that the balance which was found this power. The Department with which the made up the leeway they laboured under; Hon Mr Sassoon said that during Mr ralition I could got nothing definite out of Committee is made, to move that it be dissing in June, 1885, was embezzlement rising politicians is nouinally saddled is, and as all English goods is goods O'Malley's time he bat een very often them. I have been told on very good afficial cussed in Council, that it is not.necessary fle was instructed that it was not, and that under theas circumstances,
an
is rot. necomsary on Juno, 1885, was embezzlement power. The Department with and to require, and hage cons
mero burden are heavily taxed, while we admit thoirs to invited, and nearly all the bills brought for authority that one reason why these moot to interfere with the present practice of Mr Martin had impressed upon the prite him. He has not time to do its business compete with ours duty free, they are ward in the Council wore discussed in the ings are held in privata and watters of in. Onung which has en in oxistence for sober that he was responsible, and the priol to keep himself offestually before the growing ciclier whilst England's wealth is Law Committee.
public, He must choose between his toni- rapidly vanishing. The farmers, and con terest to this Coly are not discussed in many years and which was unanimouslysoner believing him had given this note. Hon. Mr Ryrie-I do not remember of public is, that if they were, it would give approved by the Council in 1834.
His Lordship Wa are not trying him porary duties and his career. He does not soquently the landlords, ate without ex- them
certain members of this Council an op- The Colonial Treasurer euconded the now. Who were present? I was not.
commcoly feel called upon to sacrifice his coption almost ruined, Sir James Caird, resson Prisoner, through an interprater (who prospects, Hon. Mr Bassoun-I was present; almost portunity of talking to the pross. Now I amendment. He oxplained that his
the great nuthority on agricultural matters, everyone was present.
state, as I stated in Finance Committes, for supporting Mr McEwea's motion in amid pot speak English so duently and The inevitable consequence of such a has shown by figures that there is an Hon. Mr MoEwen then asked: How that if that is the only thing the Govern Financo Commitles was simply because necurately as the prisoner himself), pro-mothod of administration has been to make antial loss of forty millions sterling
How that if that fated in Finance Commio amendment. Hures sucunded the Lordship-Wa are on this noto. red Neoralary of Stato a Despatch, H. 4370! mittoe have taken place since the Comtalt it is a rotten oue and onglit to be given ratilated. His opposition to the motion the $500, and that Mr Martin himself was The frequent change of offco, susoparable in England within the last six yours; and of 19th October, 1878, and extract from many sittings of the Bublic Works Comment have to hang their argiment on, that he wished then the abje thoroughly tested that he was unt responsible for the departments practically irresponsible in the value and rants of agricultural land
to 9th May, 187 following Minuto by the times, nought to beers of the row, with regard to the impression
tee was formed in 1989 7
up I don't believe the Secretary of State was mainly because it would provanteponsible for that, only he, the prisoner, apparently from our staten of government, as the imports for the same period have de Road also His Hon. Mr Price-They have mot five would permit auch an alps to prevail. them getting a great deal of informa- put his name down for it. The $1000 that must at all times make the permanent stalleronsod eighty millions and the exports thirty
ios Exosliency the Officer Administering the tithes, sind in connection with this have also been told that in this 1am tion which they would not otherwise were missing Le took to pay off his father the real manters of their nominal head, millions, while the population (exclusive question it ought to be mentioned mately advocating the views of tho pross receive, nad because if any, neausations or and mother's debts in October last year. The ablest and most assiduous of politicians of omigration) has brou and is increasing at W. H. MARSH.
that the whole of the members of the und of two or three agitators in this Colony, insinuations were made against individuale His Lordship--You seem to have taken cannot possibly learn more than the rudi- nearly 400,000 a year, it dora. not, I think, I think that the Honoursola Member Public Works Committes are members also Weil now, with regard to the agitators, if when questions of departmental policy were money from December to April. You com- mants of his departmental business in the require much, gift of propheos to predict who made Une mottore in Proieiros Com of the Finance Committee, and-also-that the Guvenment are under the impresion crusideed, the blow-would-fall-heavily-on-rienced fuking monny and continued to few-years of his incumbency. But with the there must be a change before long... Be mittee on the 15th instant, that its most all questions connected with projects of that the discontent and dimtisfaction them if those were to be published in the take it, ings should be held witt, that its mit all questions committee, and also that the Guver, with regard to the agitators, insinuations were made agay cusationis or and mother's
progress of democracy, with the now dogme sides, there is this Irish question to bo Prisoner-I hope your Lordship will take at the business of Government is to legis settled, and, worst of all, new power given ings should be held with opan doors, his public worke, involving the expendi-prevailing for many years past have been papers.
admin-under mistaken the bed with opan debra, has phations connected with proto Guveniment, are to it against debta mistaken the object of the Finance Com-bure of money, are as rule to carefully confined to two or three people, I am The Chief Justice also spoke in favour of into consideration the long time I have been lato and the business of clerks to admin ander the late extension of franchise to the mitteken, the object of topan dcore, hus questions connected, and also that tel now, with rogitators in this Colon, receive, hud by would not oma put his no that, only hg.
inquired into and thrashed out in the of opisin that the dissatisfaction has the amcigiment. He enggested as an im-employed by the Company marl that I am a ister, the rising politician is no longer new democracy, the bulk of shout consists
whom seriously tempted to try oven to master of a class ground down for centuries ander ittie, Finanen Committee that really the larger been universal I can wall understand provement on the present system that when family man. 2. The object of the Finance Committie, ance Committee
Commit Commsitten leaves very little for the smaller that in a colony like this, wliore-every little the minutes were introduced to the Coua
tempt his ocial work. Spee which has prevailed here, and under than His Lordship These cases are always the substance of his oReial work. Spee the feudal and class aystem of Government as also of the Committees of Laws and of as also forks, is as stated in the uper occasion have took
Couce he must consconite their condition has been little better than Public Works, uporing
one to do. That is the reason for the tow matter of expenditure has to be referred oil after being passed by the Finance severely punished. Where a man who is in chifying and caucusing are the real arts which has prevailed here, and under which
which the Public Works to the Colonial Office for confirmation, that Committes, the member doing so should employment a dierit and necessarily of succoes, and
£ Speech of Bir George Bowen, on 28th Feb. occasions on which the Public Works to the Colonini Office for confirmation, that
a cartsin amount of dissatisfaction must state the reasons which induent the Combas opportunities of embezzling, avails most of his time and labour. The result shot of suddenly given the power politie that of serfs. Faney three millions of such ruary, 1881, to examine, in the first in Committon have mot
Hon. Mr Ryrie wished to nek a question exist, but when it has been so general thore mittea to come to their decision,
when it hissatisfaction at Committes, the passed by the
himself of them the law always sovorely in our great offices is just what would occur people of stance, the details of every proposed vote with regard to the Law Committes. Ha most have been a screw loose somewhere..
overy proposed vote
On the suggestion of the Chief Justion, punishes him. I take into consideration in any large business oncern, where the cally swamping the upper and middis and measure. It is with the view of saving Hamast a
caluable fee in Conn vil that the wished to know if there was any récord of Something is at works which has caused the first part of the amendment was left out. lat. you have attempted to sorcen your owners left everything to the uncontrolled glasses. " It will, of bourse, take them surtze much time Committees were appointed hora, ns in meetings. The names of those who had pe progress
in the names of those present at the four suspicion of the Government and stop.
His Excellency also spoke against the self and have apparently given gorrect discretion of their managers. There is no years to understand the power they have
responsibility Now, Sir, motion, and mentioned that a new system information as to the various amounts effective control, no effective responsibility; been put in possession of, and to be properly other Crown Colquictions that fubordoner been present were read by the Clerk, when i would mention twe matters, which would be employed in considering next 20 far as is known at prosent, and 1 everything guet wrong, and nobody in organised by their polition leaders; but
They perform in the Colony icely the same Board Comit turned
i mittens do for Banks and Publie Con- it turned out that Mr Ryrie himself had are regarded as unsatisfaotary. I would year's estimates.
take that as an indication that you are particular is to blame for it. To all these the day ie within measurable distance buen present at one and absent at the other take the subject of the votes for
It was then put to the mouting, when the surry for what you have done. I cannot things in a lesser degree this long-suffering when Ragland will be shaken to be very panies, and are, as far on my knowledge
the fortifications. On the first vote of following voted in its favour: The Chief take as an exouse your length of service, or nation has been used for generations, and foundations.
xouse your length of service, or is and iron, which alone have given har
Mind, all this time the tenda, never held in public. In uruss, three.
Hon. Mr Ryrie said there were no notices £55,000, I believe there was certain Justice, Acting Colonial Secretary, act, the fact that the accounts were negligently for generations it has borne them with a sole sources of England's wealth, her cont from which Colony the practice was first
be borrowed as far back as 1872 by Hongkong, Bent
amount of disolve a car of following amount of discussion, but apon the Colonial ing Attorney General, Colonial Tres kept. The fact of your having been so long passing growl. Hon. Mr Luster said he always received Offlos asking for the larger sum of £60,000 surer, Surveyor General. Captain Thom-in the Company induced people to treat We have suffered much from the Depart-commercial superiority, are being rapidly the system has worked admirably for ovoz thirty years, and the mcotings are nerer them with the greatest regularity, and he had so far as the public were concerned the
Against you with confidence, and yon abused that ments, and we have suffered it without drawn up. The output of coal, which was e. note no doubt Hr Ryrie must have received them public had no information whatever. I have Messra Ryrie, Sassoon, McEwen and Bell-confidence. It is not as if a man with a revolt, because we have hitherto had the only 10 millions of tons at the beginning of held with open doors.
it on the authority of my hon, friend, the Irving.
life-long good character had been led satray fullest relingco upon their integrity and this century, has grown to an output of 160 Hon. Mr Sazoon also declared that ho senior unofficial member, that when the
in a moment of temptation, it was deliber-honour. Slow and pedantic we know the millions of tons per annum, or 8537 robe was taken inti Connoittee he wea The Rew French and Gorman quail straately dous and continued for mouths. The tube, and it has gone near to be thought 500,000 tons per working day; and although opposed to it unless on certain conditions ordinances were introduced and passed patence of the Court is that you be kept in that they were intolerably stupid for sundry there are still immerse fields left, the ensi- What these conditions were he bas never through their various stages, and the Sup. penal servitude for five years as a warning generations. But we have complacently est and cheapest got coal is naturally being What these conditions were he bas never through their to a certain extent pressed into voting. He read a first time.
were that he was
bo was to others.
balisved that, by dint of costly experiment extracted, so that before very long, when told me, but I do know this, that he was plementary Appropriation Ordinance to trusted to field so the Secretary of Sta
and a steady fire of criticism, 80 coal in naturally being and a steady fire of criticism, our depart this has been exhausted, they must fall ments did somehow or other in their own back on the deeper and more costly worked was requested to yield so as to show the Secretary of State that the Council were
lumbering fashion contrive to reach sound coal, so that England will have to face an unanimous on the point. · Well, Tam bound
that they conclusions at last. We knew that they increased price in her coal, while America, inex. to say that looks very much like coercion."
blundered, and we know that their manners China, and other countries have their ine 1 would take another subject, that of the
were portentonaly dilatory and pumpous. haustible Gelds comparatively untouched, Po Great incial stimulus of Hon. Mr McEwen moved--That fu-Loan.
in fu- Loan. That matter was settled, and I can
But we believed both Blundors and delays The population of Great Britain has like- the reprticularly the rot Couugil, and The Committee, altho would be pre- ture all matters of Public interest, and only describe the minute circulated at the
to be honest. We never suspected the wise grown, under the artificial stimulus of 4. Onu very important reason why the more particularly the voting of Public time as being the most foeble and weak that
least taint of dishonesty or fraad in the alcard and its results, from tou millions at the dishandalous rumours of Lious, while from bisutely dependent on Finance Committee meetings should not funds, be dispusand openly in Council, and over emanated from a public body of mer:
public service, and scandalous rumours of beginning of this century to thirty-six mil- be pubilo is that the Government would be not, as heretofore, at privato meetings of
still thinking
the kind were very generally resented as a lious, whilst from being an exporter of wheat wholly precluded in that caso from cout the Finanga. Commitee, He said-From that for many reasons, it would be pre-
slay on the nationor supple. Did over the world seas
honour,
and grain, she is myairsting information of a confidential reasons, usht
VICTORIA RECREATION CLUB. confidential the nature of the resolution which stands ferable to raise the money locally, especial-
Now we hear, for the first time, charges foreign supplies for three-fourths of the food. nature. As a rule, most of the Secrotury
AQUATIC SPORTS,"1886," of State's Despatches containing instructions pass, to briefly allude to what has funds could be obtained here at 44 por in my name, it will be necessary, I supy as there is now reason to believe that
sat
in the case in which Mr C. Ford, Superin- of a sort that cannot be ignored against the of the people. Dil over the world sea & First Day.
tendent of the Afforestation and Botanical honesty of, perhaps, the most important nation in such an unnatural and artificial condition 1 The Sthe bulk of the people can be communicated, when necessary, taken place at the recont meetings of cent., thus avoiding all risk of loss ou Ex-
mitte
Friday, 27th August, 1880. Department, ated the sureties of a conocer of all. The break-down in our se condition? The great wealth hers in in confidentially to the Finance Committed the Finance Committee, because there is change, nevertheless unanimously assent to the Finance Committee, of though the Governor cannot publish them:avory possibility of this rosolution being the proposal of the Secretary of State that shire Regiment; C. S. Goodwyn, Esq.; F. The Judgment is as follows
posibilites,
Umpirenajor Ellis, Northampton. tractor who had failed to fulfil his contract.atments can no longer be concealed. Guus vory few hands, and the bulk of the people
brutalk which burst, risks and cartridges which are pauporised and brutalized by the strug- by laying them before a meeting when re- put to the vote this evening, and there are the Lean should be issued in Londos, pro Grimble, Esq-
ben re-put to the era present, these meeting that if they
This is an action brought against a surety, which will not out have been reveals she can unite all her great dependencies is This is an action brought against a surety.fan, bayoneta which bend, and swords gle for existence. Such is the glory view portere are presont (Ses Col. Rule 188).
per cent. Losu, can be issued
revealing take strug- 5. Sir John Pope Hennessy informed certain austbara prasent, who were absent vided that a 4 3. Sir John Pope Hunnessy informed from the Colony at the time these meetings nut below pat." Now, Sic, I muistain
"Now,
Starter. N. Thompson, Esq., A.M.D. The plaintiff is a Government Officer in which will not out have been revealing I take of old England's future, and unless
aho Official Time Keeper T. Glass, Esq.
charge of the Afforestation Department; his their remarkable properties in all branches she can unite all her great dependencies in 1878 that he was considering were held. Some few weeks ago papers that if they were of opinion for various the down not he should show reporters word stating aumon to investors
Council
were tha
loatim tenere, bir Westland, entered into a of the survico, and men of character and seran great federal Zilverem, like our cute whether 1878 that he was informed certain membera prering, and there the proposal of whether or not he should allow reporters were Com-reasons--reasons to be present at fature meetings of the mittee suggesting a vote for a large on earth did they not stick to that 7. It (First or Second Prizes.)
will be allowed to take 10th December last the rate of $4.40 per the public sets of fraud and perjury with nations, as 1. No Competitor will be allowed to take contract with one Cheung Fuk Lee on the exition came forward and declare that the friend Bismarck did with Germany as the to be present at fature meetings of their sont round to the Finance Com reasons reasons I have never heard stateit Finance Committee, but the Secretary ofmittee sum that the loan should be raised locally, why
10th December last to make 124,000 tty all very well, but, depend upon it, if she Finance Committee, but the Secretary of of money to be applied to a certain par save
more than two prizes during the two days, 10th Decoruber last to make 124,000 tree defects in our national armament are direct- prelude to an amited people, I think the old my to t
pits more at less at the rate of $4.40 per ty due to the corruption of high officials country has seen her best days. Sentimens he referred the question pose in this Onlony. I carefully read State, to whom
Coultres on TY thought it undesirable that the question of money to be applied for a laige aum that the lens I have never heard aus thought it undesirable that the practici pose in this Colony. I carefully read would have been a great interest to investors (First or Second Prizes.) thought it undesirable that the practice of these papers and thought that it was a in China and here, I prosamo the loan by the Umpires.
2. All Races, Diving, do, will be decided 1,000 pits. No exception is taken as to the public service. They offer to adduce is all very well, but, dopood on it, if she parties. The pits were to be completed by proofs of speciic acts of fraud and perjury wants to keep her colonies, there must bo the Finance Concident to Bonourable pablie. I wrote Accordingly, expressing tom whatever, at 43 per cent, the honour of be
Committoo should be altered. It must be must be
matter that should be disenggod in would have extended over 20 ut 3 years, by the Umpires.
3. Excellence in diving consists in expressing this and there would have been no difically Form, Distanes, Eatry, and Kocovery.
the 31st July 1880, and in ones the work was committed by the permanent cficials to with nations, as with individuals, the great case England Ministeriactical and with disc, nud byuds, is the system of not completed a penalty of 625 a week was whom our new system of Ministerial irre- boat of self and mutual benefit. Bagind Members that, if Sir John Pope Hennesy public wrote socordingly, expressing this and there would have been no dificails in raising the Juan opinion.. I received a courteous reply from justifiope I did not feel justified in making the inna the Colonial Secretary, that there was no locally. So long as I have the honour of be-Four start.
4. No second prize will be given unless to be exeated for every week the work was sponsibility leaveascontrol whichis practicat. has still the best market in the world to
exacted for every week the week was at nations, as with individuals, the st tion which be recomiended, without pre occasion for discussing the matter in public, ing of
boundly not feel justified in making the inner opinion.. I received
eft undone. The contractor also bound by absolute over our national defences. The for, and with discriminating datica in fav riously asking for the manstion of the Suas it would be discussed in the Finance disposal of the Government as much as the riously asking finended, without pre. the Colonial Secretary, thus reply from whatever, at 43 p
himself by the specification, which is not foot that our artillery systems in particular vour of the colonies, nud by reciprocity on I ssonot paid free discussions on maters of evants :-
Byas it would be disco matter in pubile, ing in this my are the honour of be. second
radically defective han just received a their part in favour of Englah gouds, in the quite consistent with the above stipulations, is radically cool ef cretary of State, I cannot take upon my Comarittee. In due course of time that public. I have always been a firm believer
quite consistont with the above stipulation, The following are the winners the day's for in the specification the whole and scandalous proof in the complete collapse anly way I can ea for contederation to be
nam avif that reponsibility, especially when the Committee was called, and you will sue that in full and free discthink Borstary ability, especially when the Committee. In ad in the Financo disposal of Council my services will be at the Four start,nd prize will be given
ber is to be completed by 30th May if 10-of the heavy gans Secretary of State did not approve of the protested, on behalf of the Chamber of public interest, and I think the keep things resummendation of Sir Jehu Pape Ein- Commerce and of the public, against as sesummendation of Sire Committee, and resummendation of Sir John Pape En I ca
dark policy in a colony like
quired. The contrastar was to supply men most powerful men-of-war; and the dis. Lore are so wodded to Cobden and his the a colony like this, where the 1.-4.00p.m., DIVING FOR OBJECTS (TWO jointly with foresters in counting the pits cited the scarcely credible report that a May 20, 1881
werful meri-of-war ; and th Hoderation to be nessy. There is therefore no advantage to discussion of important matters in privato in duties of the Government are to a great
reaters in counting the pita, cussion provoked by this catastrophe has aries that the prospect is at present hopeless and the contractor was to mark with lines of ⠀ be gained by convening a special meeting the Finance Committee, and the resolution extent of a municipal nature, is a mistake. of the Legislative Council, sines the
pickets to the Aoting Superintendent's huge number of English man-of-war have isfaction at the end of each week, the pits, received imperativo ordura nut to fire their THE ACHILLE'. THE GLENOGLE fusion, if passed, must be refert und was carried by a majority of five to one. On What I say is this, if you wish things to if Excellency's minute rau xmouthly, if you wish to stop the dis-
the pits, received imparativo uzdura nu-war have Jution, if passed, must be referred hunt the following day your members of the word and dissatisfaction that have been ram 2.-4.15
cointed. Inoneof the conditions it is stipu guns except against an ouemy, and that On the 16th July the Lord Chancellor, The motion can be made, if the Honourable was received by the
lated that payments will be made on account several of these ships are in sole charge of the Earl of Selborne, Lords Blackburn, Members still think it desirable, at the Finares Committee, and in due course the pant in this Colony for yours past, take 2-4.15 p.m. RUNNING HEADER FROM of works in progress for which a claira must important stationis Facts like thisu, if Watson, Bramwell, Fitzgerald, Halsbury,
be next mouting of Council, which must be meeting you recommended be held took the Colony mors into your confidence,
ONOSS SPRING BOARD. (Twu Prizes.) be sent in, but out of every payment on ac-plained by the incompetence or the dia which it may be rekiombered and to be re- ent on acideed they are the truth, can only be ex and Ashbourus gava judgment in this case,
indeed they are the truth, can only be ex held in the early part of September, if not plaos, when a very important minus and
voima
let the light of day in upon yourselves
1. Gricable.
count 20 per cent. will be reserved as a plained before to discuss the Estimates and if also read and discussed. With reference and you will go far to dispel them. With
2.C. Corniab. carried, I will forward it to the Secretary to the part of that minute in which you those remerke I make this motion.
guarantee fund until the completion of the honesty of the officials responsible for the argued owing to lead but be re- 3. Frod. Laumert.
contract be certiled. In case of me found that the collision was due to the Hon. P. Ryrie-I would have much pre: 84.80 p.m., Hove RACE. (3 lengths). Superinte rock out of funds that may be oredible that
contract be certilled. In case of delay the guns. We are the greatest workers of seel the swing to differences of opinion. In
the original action allade to the Law Committed and the Com-
which was passed mittee Public Works, we have heard this ferred that the resolution which passed 3.-4.80 p.m., Hove RACE. (3 lengths). Superintendens will provide men and com- and iron the world has ever known. Is it too died in the Court of Admiralty
(Handicap) (Two Prizon.)
plete the work out of funds that may be credible that our adsinistrators, with all
adminiatsutura, with all negligence of
tuz, with all evening that the work connected with these at the Finance Cunnittee should have bean
of those un due to the contractor. The defendant be the resources of the State at their disposal, Glenogle, but the Court of Appeal coverted two Committees has not been very import brought forward to-day vir That the
1. Frank Lammort.
same strety for the contractor, Obeung Fat are unable to cast suund cangur, or to buy that decision. The Achills, with was an
cannon, le, but the C ante. My Hon. friond the Surveyor General Finance Committee should sit with open
Lee, fulfilling his contractor, Ubeung Fu are unable to cast suund can disposal, Glenugle, but then board the steamer Lee, fulfilling his contract, and more per bayonets and sword-bladen without s flaw Italian barque, was hove-to is the Chanust in believe Channel admits that there have been during two doors. My friend opposite has adopted the
cularly described in the specifications and The public will not readily Letters it; and waiting for a pilot when the collision years only five meetings of that Committee. alternative and rather than there should 4-445 pm, Smour RAGE (2 langths), conditions. It appears that the foresters in sutil the matter is cleared up by thorough occurred. The owners of the Achi is sued With great respect to Your Excellency be any failure of the object we have
ked too.
3. In 939 point, however, the practice in. Mauritius differs from that of Hongkong, duly received the notise, and I have long thought that the Mauritius practice might be introduced here, the Hon. Mr Byrie said the only meeting of draft minates of the Finance Committee are the Law Committee he remembered of was draft minstee of the Finance Committee are there either circulated for revision by the dif in the Club, which was quite informal. Two for three of us out, and we said 'Suppose
three of us the we are a moeting of the Law Committee,
and it was all right
therwithar bir or, for the forent members, or, in important cases, T
evised at a spesial meeting held for the methon road at purpose. The minutes are thon road as and
and on tho the next mosting of Council, and motion for their adpation, any Member may discuss them, and they mas bo rejest ed, as I have seen done in Mauritian.
of State at once
at
to
Luti-
THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION. OF FINANCIAL MATTERS,
.
of
the
the мени
got to deal with it openly before the
The Council was adjourned antil Friday the 17th September, at 4 p.m.
ECCLESIASTICAL GRANTS. The Secretary of Stato's despatch on this subject is to the effect that he is unable to see sufficient reason for reconsidering tho granta in Hongkong,
decision to withdraw - the' ecclesiastical
TO-DAY'S WINNEES.
Prizes)
1. Fred. Laurert.
3. F. Shepherd. 3. Scanlan,
2. T. Wallace..
3. Friederichs.
Open. (Two Prizea)
1. G. Grimble.
2. H. Arthur,
3. Theo, Lammert
Prizes.)
1. G. Grimble.
2. W. H: White,
Red Buoy and back. (Handicap). (Tov Prizes.)
1. Hayllar.
-2. J. Wallace. 3. Friedrichs..
6.00p.m., BORDLE RACE, (Bandicap). KACE. (Handicap).
(Two Prizes.)
1. Theo. Lammert. 2. Fred Lammert. 8. H. Arthur.
·IN SUMMARY JURISDICTION. (Before the Honner Mfr Justice Russell, Puisne Judge)
Friday, August 27,
A SURETY'S LIABILITY.
+
IMPORTANT JOBIMRNI.
CHARLES FORD 0. CHĂNG TÀI.
His Lordship gave judgment this morning
some
one of our newsat and '| brought about. I fear, howevor, poopla
t
2
leigue with the contractor or his men or inquiry they will be forced reluctantly to the owners of the Glenogle to recover the
they will be for waiting for both represented to the Acting Superinten went that the officials in question have loss of their vessel. Mr Justice Butt hold buth represented to the Acting Superinten accept the only possible alternative judg-damages ccensioned to the plaintifs by the dant that some 41,000 piis had been made lossesioned to the plaintiffs by the dont that some 41,000 pits had been made their own reasons for aratug our soldiers the Glenogle alone to blame, but this deci which were not made, and that this was Mr Justice Butt hold discovered in April last. In the meantime and sailors with unserviceable weapons.sion was reversed on appeal, and judgmont
ver!
to
AUSTRALIAN COMMENTS ON.
ENGLISH AFFAIRS.
of
7. If the public are to be admitted to meetings of the Finance Committes, the raison d'etre of such Committees seams to ste to disappear, and all votes for money night as well be discussed in Council, without the preliminary examination of detals, which has hitherto proved so con. venient both in this and in other Crown I submit, with reference to your compari. in view, I second the proposition, I bare Colonies.
My son with a committee for a bank or public been 2 years a member of this Council, 8. Feannot help thinking that the Company, that there can be analogy between and daring these 20 years 1 do not suppose the working of a bank or public Company that I have come across four or five des surable Member, who proposed this result, and the business of euch a Colway as this. I patches of the Secretary of State with regard 5.5.15 p.m., HEADS FROM STAGE. Two the contractor got the money for the work. St. James's Gazette. tion must have been under the impression, do not think it necessary to amplify this areas the slightest reason for keeping private. I suppose
given for the defendants. There was much pathe financat reason hard to the 8.30 and back. to the finances of the Colony that there
The stirety is now sued for $200, the penalty the time, that the functions of the I Officials and unofficials are here to sea that
conflict of testimony as to the circumstances igument, ance Committee were more important, and to every one. With reference to the com ance Committae were more important mi gument, because I think it must be patent was the slightest reason for keeping private.
in the boud, on the ground that the con-
which immediately preceded the collision, to every one. With reference to the suns more conclusive than they really are.parison between Mauritius and Hongkong the money of the pubes got to deal with 6.--0.30 p.m., LONG RADE. (Round the has been wrongfully paid to the contractor. tractor has not performed the work; it
but certain facts are substantially undisput to the
d. The Achille was, about eleven o'clock 0. I assure Honourable hembers that public is devoted to that
I Lose my wish that the fullest information should say that what may be suitable for Maari- public service. Wo have got to deal with 6.-9.30 p.m., LONG RACE. (Round the really is for the renovary of the money which
and deal with
The question is whether sa a matter of law
The following letter, written to a gentle p. on July 17, 1883, in the neighbour- be given by the Governaditure of públk cices observor of Gov be given by the Government in all mattera tips need not of necessity be adapted for money which is not ours, and we have
The question is whether sa a matter of law man in Sydney, by a colonist now in Eug hood of the Sovereign Shost Light-reasol, In fact I have been
beer there has not been such an alteration be- laad, although somewhat pessimist in tone, waiting for a pilot. Sho was heading about publk my opinion, connected with the public Jongkong.
tween plaintiff and Cheung Fuk Lea as to will be read with interest
N. E., with her foretopsail aback, making moneys, and that I shall at all times be close observer of Governors and off world. That has always been ready to entertain any suggestions that are that instead of endeavouring to consider Committee. At certain periods of the year it,-
certified as done. The contractor has the get one of the cid-fashioned sonsons being W. by S. Whilst on the cabece cisis, and I have invariably found resolution will do away with the Finance
have invariably found resolution wil do awriods
and I hold to it. I am very sorry that this
discharge his surety. In one of the con- I beard yesterday that a telegram had shout a knot an hour. The wind was blow of undoubted advantage, and that I feel the local requirements they invariably inconvenience; for instance, you will have
ditious it is arranged that the contractor been received in the city that further good ing a strong breeze from about N. W. The feel the that I am authorized in acceding to refer to other experiences in former till at
a Council dur
will not get paid until the work has been rains had fallen on May 17, so that I hope Glengle was steaming down Channel at fall ment House, Hongkong, 17th colonies. As to there buing confidentialing the recess should any deinanda for mon
the drought is for the present over; but un-speed-about 10 knots an hour--ber course Government call meetings of the whole Council dr
been paid by the Government, but it til we
this course the July, 1886
Considerable discussion ensues, when the despatches of the Secretary of State which ing the recess should any demands for non-
has been done in its own wrong. I of foods, ., to replenish the underground green light of the Achille was seen by those it ey it
think the surety was entitled to rely on the springs, one cannot feel confident that the on board the Glenagie a point and a balf, think the rot paying for word he hadla south Wales espec depression, produce two light. If the tie en manoeuven Acting Attorney General proposes and Mr would be dangerous to publish, I do not oy arise. I will certainly back up my hon.
marety was entitled to be s., being W. by S. Whilst McEwen seconds, the following resde think that in the matter of Euanes there friend in what he said with regard to the
Government not paying for work under that cycle of good seasons has recommenced. I more or less, on their port bow. The holm can be anything of contential a board of a bank.
The winner was allowed 5 acc. start, condition unless it was done, and he had a fer very much that Australia, and New of the Glenog'e was accordingly starboarded,
be the despatches to the Colony. In fact
་
a lump The functions of a Finance Committee and Fred. Laumert 8 sec., and H. Arthur was right to assume that if the nun gee South Wales especially, has to faca a lungo sa to bring the Achille's green light on Tast this Committee, having board would go further and say that 99 out of those of a bank or public company are to zeratch.
Committee, having board the despatches to the dential nature in Finanso Committee and
having board the deanything of of Luures that arise. I should way denouncil de
money that it was after due exzuination spall of disaster and depression. The ab- the starboard bow of the Giesle, and the after duc examinationormally low prices-anchor, the absurdy her ourse without any read curtain Despatches and the explane
In the General Screw Steam Navigation Co. normally low prices of wool and all produce two vessels worn than brought green light, nude Geht on to tions of the Cairman, withdraw the resolu: 100 departmental despatches received from tally different, and those who suggested
W. on tig the Colonial Office Ebould be published such an idea inast have known nothing & 615 p.m., TeG OF WAR the Colonial Office ebould be published at
e. Rolt, 6 C.B., N., 550, it was ich form our sheet-anchor, the absurd to green light. If the Genogle and continu tion of the lith instant, and resolve that
I
Lockhart, Goodlad, Youngield, Ander that in the building of a steamer payments extravagant cost of government, and their ed her course without any. Ben manœuvrs The Meetings of the Committee be carried for the general public and that this chout the boards of public companies
steamer patch form our sheet-anchor all produce two vessels w bow of the Glewile and the The Meetings of the Committee be carried
overnment, edgreen
directions to the vessels would have gone clear of each one were to be on as heretofore, until the question of might be done without disclosing any see no reason why discussions on votes son, Thou, Lammert, and Davidson-poll that in the building on as heretofore, until the question of very great secrets. Your Excellency says of public money should not take place ined against the following: F. Grimble, work. Rolt was security in the contract.secure votes and perpetrate political Jobs: other, and the disaster would never have
a heretofore, until the meetings be very remove marks and they are reported, he
gainst the following:-F. Grimble, work. Rolt was security in the contract occurs, the heims of the Glengle was
following:F. Grimble, were to be made during the progress of the rackless expenditure in all t, and theiced her course without any hea mano admitting the public to the meetings be I must have been under the impres public. If any person makes facetious ro-Class, M. Falconer Lawne, O. H. Thomp The Company paid one instalment, the last the new and unnecessary taxes which will occurred. It is common ground that, is considered at the first meeting of the Iouat
contract, secure votes and porget all directions to the verse heontinu- dered at the first meeting of the son at the time I made the rosoles nude them; but if they want to taik
marks and they are reported, he need not on, and W. Powell Legislative Council meeting of the must have boor Excelleney says of public mon way discussions on fot
before the work was complete. The builder frighten capital from the country, mast stead of this, the helm of the Glengle was tion tlust the fanctions of the Finance have made Carried unanimously:
tion flust the fanctiuade the resole marks and the person makes facetious ed against the
omplete the xpenditure became bankrupt. The Company had to inevitably bring the place and people to the ported, and that the collision was this then our solid business they need not be afraid Hon. A. P. McEwen speaking with re- they really are.
Committee were more important than
solid business
that absolute complete the work at a cost and t complete the work at a cost and sought 1,000,000 requiring an expenditure of which immediately precede. The Time, 1 mín, 9 sco.
render Rol; liable. He was hand sought to verge of bankruptoy. Fancy a population cessioned. But there was a s ference bus vote of £50 to Mr Hillier pr they really are. I am of opinion that to have good solid business reported. There
Roli liable. He was held discharged sething like £9,000,000 for care of up- tvre on the pose on board the Achille rander Rolt liable. He was held discharged of 1,000,000 requiring an expenditure of conflict of evidence to the circumstances pleasure in secundieg posed by the Finazos Committee, said the the public in general certainly do sunsiler fore. I have mach preported.
the resolution.
After the 4th Rave, a Soldier's Race look from liability as the Company by paying sunething like £0,000,000 for ordinary go- which immediately preceded this man
for on board, the Achille Colonial Secretary would recall that to these meetings of the Fuance Committee the resolution.
he
The Hon. F. D. Bassoon also spoke in entered:Staff Sergeant Mills, Privates charged, the surety: I think that case of things cannot possibly continue, and unless on her starboard bow, and that, therefors, place (& lengths), for which the following is distinct that the Genoge vas always soon place ( lengths), for which the following the builder before he completed the work verament, hesi fex a loan expenditure of up-uvre on the part of the Glenogle, The
the following the builder before made a few remarks on the subject in Com-portant. Every taller of public in-
F. Sassoon also spoke in entered-Staff Sergeant Mills, Privates had varied the contract materially and dis warda of £5,000,000 per annum. This state evidence of those on board the Achille terest which involves the expondituro of favour of the motion. He wished in the Council saw milles,
Wengi was always soon Howell, Oates, Sergeant Mills, Privates had varied thefore he completed the war suidething like £0,000,000 paditure of conflict of evidence he was absolute The Acting Attorney General spoke Abrahamia, aud Corp. Biddle
Howell, Oates, Sharp, Dad, Buckley, governs this, and at the surety, is dis the colony can get togather a Government on bur starboard bow, and that, therefors, or una futuh occasion to bring forward any ho invariably been settled at
athena trestings. I am aware that proba against the motion, and pro, osed an und
charged; see De Collar the surety is dis- the colony can go by continue, and unless it distinct that the board the Achille Goliyar on Guarantees. strong enough and honest enough to face those on board the Glengl never woulde Govern His Excellency You must give nutce by the argument of the Governor will ment. He did not think any sufficient res
The Crown Solicitor (Mr A. B. Johnson) the situation, we must go to the wall. have been the ten light of the chilfe. On part for the pinintiff, and Mr. Caidwolf The rather jobs of the like nature board the vessels were starboard to itarboard be that before anything is actually passed son had been given so far for the abolition of resolution
it has to be anbratted to stopalation offthe Comittee, which thamotion involved,
appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr Caldwell Thoro braach railways (political most of the other hand, the evidence of those on reprozented the defendant.
board them) and the Glenogle is equally distinon that It was aging stood cordingly soramientos who are cons It was agreed that the case of Mr Ford must wait ever, and I still hope there is after the vessels were starboard to atarboard
them) and other jobs light of the Achille uden to be anything is actualle will ment. He motion, and pro feneral spoke Howell, Oates, Sergeant Mills, plowing the builder before he Company charged f 1,000, bankruptcy, Fod people to the purdof this, the helm of and that, has Agalust that I would gislative of the Comittee, which for the abolition the ofthe been given so far any sufficient a
Again case against Tum Shing stood on exactly the patriotian enough in the Houss to act the red light of the Achille nuddenly ap sams footing as the other, and ac ordingly fem face against any farther playing at peared, and that it was on this account that que judgment will rule both casts.
**fututer:
resolution on that subject.
Hon. Mr. McEwen I beg to give notice Council Against that I would say that it Badenied that the offcial majonty bad eit
has been the practice of the Finance Com been used to coeres the unofficial winority,
för next meeting
ing of Council give notes
it
has
THE LAW COMMITTEE.
been
been the practice of the Financed bad always been open mittee when way sum of money was voted or that free and fall discussion had over been
am
for
Hon. Mr McEwan asked, How many to spend that money there and then and interfered with. It had always been open for
3. Lockhart's TeamD... 2. Grimble's doi
1. Dodd 2. Biddle.
3. Sharp,
SUPREME COURT.
IN CRIMINAL SESSIONS.
....
of
the red
Leaw Inst week, when lig SID hein) of the Glenogle was parted,
e
Mr Caldwell acked his Lordship it be town, several persons who are considered us The Lord Ch
The Lord Chancellor, Lord Watson, and would grant costs. His Lordship said the authorities on wool, and they speak rather Lord Bramwell were of opinion that, the old grant custs his Lerlap it he Government, en farther playin judguient was really against the Crown: hopefully of a change for the better before decision of the Court below in favour of the Mr Johnson said the surety had not taken long. I hope their anticipations will be defendants, the present respondents, ought
were
lings of the Law Committee have taken I put the question to the President of mombers if they chose to do so, to object place since the Commitee was formed the Finance Committee Supposing to any inatter being referred to the kin (Before Sir George Phillippo, Chief Justice. În 1833 |
carded Vote Cried against you in the Council and scoe Committee the moment it
Friday, Aug 27 The Acting Attorney General said-In the money already spent, who would be troduced into the Cutinail, and even Enavor to that I beg to state as follows responsible ! He replied the Governar after the matter had been discussed in THE EMBEZZLEMENT AT THE GAN WORKS, the slightest trouble to see that the con-realised; but I am not very aangulus my to be affirmed. Lord Fitzgerald Bud Lord
realised; but I res have been informed that Mr O'Malley ill would be held personally responsible. If that the Finance Committee; it has open Jamo Alongo, who pleaded guilty to struct was carried out, and Chinese sureties, self, knowing what a serious depression Halabey were of opinion that the judg ed the Law Commitise together on four is not unconstitutiorial I do not know what to any member to state their objections bezzling monies to the extent of over as a rule were very careful in that respect. hangs over trade in England. The fact is ment of the Court of Appeal should be 18 Comajons, which I would other on for at be held personally respone Governar after the at the Outineil, and
Iwonatitutional comajons, which I would call four formal in Iwould put it to Your Excellency, in the and give to the public all the information $1,100 belonging to the Bangkong, and Bir Lordship said that in the meantime he that free-trade England has to light, with versed, my d meatings; but besides there there were several event of a vote for twenty or thirty thousand they desired. Then again they could not China Glas On, while in their employ, was would made to order as to costs, but if the world handed against her, with hostile The judgment was necordingly armed, informal meetings. At these wootings the having been opposed and carried against possibly get the same amount of information again brought up for sentence, den Mr. Caldwell liked he might renew the and protective tariffs. At the cutset, when and the appeal dismissed with costs, the Clark of the Council was not required to you would you beye considered yourself 2 reportera were present as they could it The Acting Attorney General (the Hos, application neat Friday, and argue the free-teado was initiated under the Cobden Glenugie being than declared to be free from
havə ↑ as responsible 7. attend and he did not attend. There have you would you have considered against possibly get the same again they could not China Glas anging to the Hongkong and His Lord were very careful in that is solf, knowing what a serious glue my to be afirmed. Lord Frapondents, ought
they mat în private, nor discuss matters at E. J. Ackroyd) said—Mr Martin (the ma-question,
school, England, from the protection Nature blame.
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