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No. 10.
COLONIAL OFFICE DEPARTMENTAL COUNCIL. MINUTES OF THE THIRD (SPECIAL) MEETING OF THE COUNCIL HELD ON FRIDAY, THE 4TH JUNE, 1920, AT 3.0 P.M.
Present:
Mr. G. E. A. GRINDLE (Chairman), Mr. A. FroDIAN,
Mr. H. F. DOWNIE,
Representing the Official Side.
Mr. W. H. SCOFFHAM (Vice-Chairman), representing the Association of
Clerks of the 2nd Division.
Mr. L. B. FREESTON (representing, in the absence of Mr. Wiseman, the Asso-
ciation of 1st Division Civil Servants).
Mr. S. R. PUGHE (representing the Society of Civil Servants).
Mr. F. KENNEDY (representing the Assistant Clerks' Association).
Mr. F. H. HARPER (representing the Civil Service Union).
Miss E. J. ATKINS (representing the Civil Service Typists' Association). Mr. J. S. HOLLAND (representing Government Messengers' and Attendants'
Association).
Mr. D. CALLAGHAN (Temporary Clerks' Association).
Mr. P. R. CLIPSHAM (representing Boy Clerks' Association).
Mr. H. T. ALLEN,
Mr. W. H. BICKLE (in the absence of Mr. Emmens)
A bsent:
Mr. W. H. EGGETT (Official Side).
Secretaries.
THE Chairman stated that he thought it was understood that this meeting was called to enable the Staff Side to explain their attitude as regards the Report of the Committee on Staffing and Organization, but that the Official Side were not in a position to express any opinion on it, and were there to hear what the Staff Side had to say.
The Vice-Chairman moved the adoption of the Report of the Committee. In the course of his remarks he observed that, while the Staff Side had agreed to limit the recommendations in the Report to posts carrying salaries not exceeding £500 per annum, it must be clearly understood that they did not admit that the Council was precluded from considering the revision of the salaries, etc., of higher posts.
Mr. Kennedy seconded the motion.
After expressions of views by various members of the Staff Side, the Chairman said that the Report would be most carefully considered by the authorities; and that, after consultation with the Treasury, the scheme, while still in a provisional form, would be communicated to the Council for discussion at a Special Meeting to be called for the purpose at an early date.
The Council then adjourned.
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No. 11.
COLONIAL OFFICE DEPARTMENTAL COUNCIL.
MINUTES OF THE FOURTH (SPECIAL) MEETING OF THE COUNCIL HELD ON MONDAY, THE 28TH OF JUNE, 1920, AT 3 P.M.
Present:
MR. G. E. A. GRINDLE (Chairman),
MR. A. FIDDIAN,
MR. H. F. Downie,
representin
enting the Official Side.
MR. W. H. SCOFFHAM (Vice-Chairman), representing the Association of
Clerks of the 2nd Division.
MR. R. A. WISEMAN (representing the Association of 1st Division Civil
Servants).
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MR. S. R. PUGUE (representing the Society of Civil Servants). MR. F. KENNEDY (representing the Assistant Clerks' Association).
MR. F. H. HARPER (representing the Civil Service Union).
MISS E. J. ATKINS (representing the Civil Service Typists' Association). MR. J. S. HOLLAND (representing the Government Messengers' and
Attendants' Association).
MR. D. CALLAGHAN (representing the Temporary Clerks' Association).
MR. H. T. ALLEN,
MR. W. H. BICKLE (in the absence of Mr. Emmens),
Absent:
MR. W. H. EGGETT (Official side).
Secretaries.
MR. P. R. CLIPSHAM (representative of the Boy Clerks' Association). THE minutes of the Third (Special) Meeting of the Council,* held on the 4th
of June were confirmed.
The Chairman said that it had been hoped to communicate to the Council, for discussion at the meeting, provisional proposals for applying the recommendations of the Joint Committee of the National Council to the Colonial Office, but he regretted that, owing to the matter being dependent on the reorganization of the Service generally, it would be necessary to defer the question to another Special Meeting to be called at some later date.
The Vice-Chairman drew attention to the fact that since the last meeting of the Council the Administrative Establishment of the Colonial Office had been fixed. As a result there were ten vacancies in the junior rank of that class, and, if the Council were not at present in a position to discuss reorganization affecting posts with salaries not exceeding £500 a year, the Staff side claimed that the filling of the above-mentioned vacancies should also be deferred, as otherwise the question of giving effect to the recommendations in paragraphs 45 and 51 of the report would be prejudiced.
After discussion, it was agreed that the Staff side should submit further representations in writing on this point.
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No. 12.
COLONIAL OFFICE DEPARTMENTAL COUNCIL.
MINUTES OF THE FIFTH MEETING OF THE COUNCIL HELD ON MONDAY THE 28TH OF JUNE, 1920, AT 4.15 P.M.
Present:
MR. G. E. A. GRINDLE (Chairman),
MR. A. FIDDIAN,
MR. H. F. DOWNIE,
representing the Official side.
MR. W. H. SCOFFHAM (Vice-Chairman), representing the Association of
Clerks of the 2nd Division.
MR. R. A. WISEMAN (representing the Association of 1st Division Civil
Servants).
MR. S. R. PUGHE (representing the Society of Civil Servants).
MR. F. KENNEDY (representing the Assistant Clerks' Association). MR. F. H. HARPER (representing the Civil Service Union).
MISS E. J. ATKINS (representing the Civil Service Typists' Association). MR. J. S. HOLLAND (representing the Government Messengers' and
Attendants' Association).
MR. D. CALLAGHAN (representing the Temporary Clerks' Association).
Secretaries.
MR. H. T. ALLEN,
MR. W. H. BICKLE (in the absence of Mr. Emmens), Į
Absent:
MR. W. H. EGGETT (Official side).
MR. P. R. CLIPSHAM (representative of the Boy Clerks' Association). 1. THE minutes of the Second Meeting of the Council,† held on the 26th of March, were confirmed.
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GHE (representing the Society of Civil Servants).
EDY (representing the Assistant Clerks' Association).
ARPER (representing the Civil Service Union).
TKINS (representing the Civil Service Typists' Association). HOLLAND (representing the Government Messengers' and nts' Association).
AGRAN (representing the Temporary Clerks' Association).
H. T. ALLEN.
W. H. BICKLE (in the absence of Mr. Emmens),
Absent:
GGETT (Official side).
Secretaries.
LIPSHAM (representative of the Boy Clerks' Association).
the Third (Special) Meeting of the Council,* held on the 4th
d.
id that it had been hoped to communicate to the Council, for ing, provisional proposals for applying the recommendations tee of the National Council to the Colonial Office, but he to the matter being dependent on the reorganization of the would be necessary to defer the question to another Special t some later date.
an drew attention to the fact that since the last meeting of nistrative Establishment of the Colonial Office had been fixed.
e ten vacancies in the junior rank of that class. and, if the resent in a position to discuss reorganization affecting posts eding £500 a year, the Staff side claimed that the filling of acancies should also be deferred, as otherwise the question of commendations in paragraphs 45 and 51 of the report would
it was agreed that the Staff side should submit further iting on this point.
No. 12.
AL OFFICE DEPARTMENTAL COUNCIL.
HE FIFTH MEETING OF THE COUNCIL HELD ON
/ THE 28TH OF JUNE, 1920, AT 4.15 P.M.
Present:
GRINDLE (Chairman),
LAN,
>WNIE,
representing the Official side.
3COFFHAM (Vice-Chairman), representing the Association of f the 2nd Division.
VISEMAN (representing the Association of 1st Division Civil
GHE (representing the Society of Civil Servants).
EDY (representing the Assistant Clerks' Association).
ARPER (representing the Civil Service Union).
TKINS (representing the Civil Service Typists' Association). HOLLAND (representing the Government Messengers' and its' Association).
AGHAN (representing the Temporary Clerks' Association).
H. T. ALLEN,
W. H. BICKLE (in the absence of Mr. Emmens),
Absent:
GGETT (Official side).
Secretaries.
.IPSHAM (representative of the Boy Clerks' Association).
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