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PUBLIC RECORD OFFICE

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C.O.885

21 PUBLIC RECORD OFFICE, LONDON

ALLY WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE BE REPRODUCED PHOTOGRAPHIC-

COPYRIGHT PHOTOGRAPH-NOT TO

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As to the suggestion that we should make them on gelatine plates to decrease the cost, we should very strongly advise against this, as the resulting slides would not be nearly as good as we now produce by the more expensive processes.

It is certain that a considerable further reduction could, however, be made

if they were all produced by the gelatine process.

We hope that the suggestion that we have to make now may meet your require ments, and that we may not have to lower the quality of the work.

If, as has been suggested, we are allowed to substitute our best coloured pictures for the seven slides which are at present produced by the three-colour process, and if you would forgo the commission of 12 per cent. which at present we have to add to the price, we on our part would be willing to make a further large reduction in our charges, in order to meet your wish for a reduced price for the complete set. At present the total cost is £50, and the amount of reduction by doing away with your 12 per cent. would be £6 5s.; we should be willing, under the circum- stances, to sell the whole set for £35, making the total reduction £15 from the present price.

You will see that by this arrangement all the slides would be of exactly the same quality as now, and there would be as many coloured ones, the only difference being that seven of the coloured pictures which are at present produced by the Sanger-Shepherd three-colour process would in future be painted by hand.

If a still further reduction is necessary, there appear to us only two ways of accomplishing this, either by doing away with colouring altogether, or by printing the whole of the slides by the gelatine process, and, in our opinion, if one of these is necessary, it would be better to omit the colouring, as some of your slides, made from indifferent originals, would be very poor indeed if made on gelatine dry plates.

The Secretary,

The Visual Instruction Committee.

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No. 146.

We remain, &c.,

NEWTON & CO.

VISUAL INSTRUCTION COMMITTEE to the EDUCATION OFFICER, LONDON COUNTY COUNCIL

DEAR SIR,

[Answered by No. 148.]

Downing Street, S. W., 16 December, 1911. WITH further reference to your letter of the 26th of October,* I am directed to inform you that the Visual Instruction Committee are prepared to allow the reproduction of 24 of Mr. A. Hugh Fisher's paintings for use as reward cards in the elementary schools of the London County Council, on the understanding that the Committee shall be at liberty to make what arrangements they please with the publisher, or with any other publisher, for the supply of cards for the Committee's own purposes.

Yours faithfully,

W. E. NOALL, Secretary, Visual Instruction Committee.

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pay the actual production of negatives, &c., and any work that has to be done in the initial stage, we do not charge you for the first set of slides made from the negatives so prepared or handed to us, but that we ourselves bear this expense in future.

You have, however, already a depot set of the Indian series and the United Kingdom series, which could be available for hire.

you, if In consideration of the fact that we publish all these sets for loan us the two depot sets we should be willing to supply sets of all the new series that you bring out for the purpose of hire, on the following terms :—

you

will

When hirers take only a single lecture we should propose to charge them 5s. (five shillings) for the use of the slides, and where they take a complete course, 3s. (three shillings) per lecture set, and to pay you 10 per cent. annually on all amounts received.

We should, of course, take over all the correspondence, which, if the slides are taken up at all, will be very heavy, but we think that it would just pay us to let the sets on these terms, and we believe they would be considerably used by schools which cannot afford to purchase.

We, of course, make this suggestion (as well as others with regard to the price of the slides for sale), on the understanding that all sets will be published only by us, and that we shall be allowed to make the slides by the best processes and not on gelatine plates.

W. Noall, Esq.

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No. 148.

We remain, &c.,

NEWTON & CO.

EDUCATION OFFICER, LONDON COUNTY COUNCIL, to VISUAL INSTRUCTION COMMITTEE,

DEAR SIR,

Education Offices, Victoria Embankment, W.C.,

30th December, 1911. Your letters of 11th and 16th December, 1911,† stating that the Visual Instruction Committee of the Colonial Office had been so good as to agree to the use by the Council of 24 of Mr. Hugh Fisher's sketches for the purposes of repro- duction in the form of reward cards, have been presented to the Committee con- cerned.

I am now directed to convey the thanks of the Committee to the Visual Instruc- tion Committee, and to say that the Committee will be pleased to accept the offer.

With regard to the condition laid down in your letter of 16th December, I have to say that the Council would not wish to do more than order from its con- tractors the number of cards it requires. Your Committee would, of course, retain the copyright and would be free to make any arrangement with the contractors for reproducing copies for their own purposes.

Yours faithfully,

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R. BLAIR,

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Education Officer.

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No. 147.

MESSRS. NEWTON & CO. to VISUAL INSTRUCTION COMMITTEE. (Received December 22, 1911.)

DEAR SIR,

3, Fleet Street, Temple Bar, London, 21st December, 1911. We have considered carefully the question which you put to us, as to letting on hire the sets of slides published for the Visual Instruction Committee, and we would suggest as follows:-

It has already been arranged that in future the new sets shall be published without a depot set being supplied, which we understand means, that while you

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