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al out the end of September. It was agreed to leave Mr. Mackinder a free hand on the understanding that the edition should be on sale if possible at the beginning of the autumn. In connection with the question of coloured slides, Dr. Heath promised to obtain for Mr. Mackinder particulars of a new colour process, said

be very satisfactory.

Selection of Artist in connection with the Princess of Wales's Fund.

The question was discussed at length. As regards salary, although no definite decision was reached, the sum of £20 per month with subsistence allowance varying according to the Colony visited, together with the payment of all travelling expenses, was considered fair remuneration.

Mr. Mackinder gave particulars of two candidates, Messrs. Low and Brett; Dr. Heath mentioned two, Messrs. Davenport and Pattison, and stated that Mr. René Bull, the war artist, might possibly like to be considered; Dr. Roberts gave the names of four likely candidates who had been recommended to him, Messrs. Brown, Butler Stoney, Morrow, and Sidney Paget.

After considerable discussion, a Sub-Committee consisting of Dr. Heath, Dr. Roberts, and Mr. Mackinder, to which would be added Sir Charles Holroyd, Director of the National Gallery, if he would consent to serve, was appointed to meet the candidates at the Colonial Office on the 29th July, Dr. Heath in the mean- time undertaking to send to each of them a note of the date, this note to be followed up by a formal request for attendance to be sent by Mr. Lucas. Specimens of the work of the various candidates would be received by Mr. Mackinder previously.

The Sub-Committee would report to the Committee at a meeting to be held on the 31st July.

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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE SUB-COMMITTEE OF THE VISUAL INSTRUCTION COMMITTEE, HELD AT THE COLONIAL OFFICE, JULY 29,

1907.

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10 days per annum, the artist would be occupied about three years. He also proposed six groups with six lectures in each, viz. :—

1. Canada.

2. India.

3. South Africa.

4. Australia and New Zealand.

5. West Indies, East and West Africa.

6. Miscellaneous, Ocean Routes, &c.

The Sub-Committee concurred in groups 1, 2 and 3, reserving groups 4, 5 and 6 for future consideration.

Dr. Heath's proposal that the artist's subsistence allowance should vary according to place visited, was agreed to.

The Sub-Committee concurred in Sir Charles Holroyd's suggestions that :-

(a) No detailed accounts should be called for from the artist, but that a regular subsistence allowance should be provided, in addition to about

which he considered reasonable remuneration; £240 per annum,

(5) The artist should receive a preliminary training in photography. Mr. Lucas considered that the candidate chosen must work under the direction of Mr. Mackinder, with no appeal to the Committee. This view was accepted.

Sir Charles Holroyd consented to inspect the artistic work of the selected candidate, after his probationary period in this country.

Mr. Lucas then withdrew,

After interviewing the candidates, and inspecting their work, the Sub-Com- mittee unanimously recommended that:—

(a) Mr. Hugh Fisher, 10, Hammersmith Terrace, Hammersmith,

he offered the post at a salary of £25 per month; he being informed in reply to his enquiries that, while the Committee reserve to themselves absolute control over the productions made by him during his engagement, they will do their best not to stand in his way, and that the question of a subsequent exhibition of his work will be reserved for careful consideration at a future date;

(b) (1) Mr. Butler Stoney, Portland Park, Co. Tipperary, Ireland;

(2) Mr. W. Todd Brown, 6, Holland Place Chambers, Kensington, W.; (3) Mr. B. Low, 175, Barry Road, Dulwich Park, S.E.;

be informed that another selection had been made, but that their names had been noted, should an opportunity arise of utilising their services at a later date. (Con- sideration was recommended in the above order);

(c) Mr. Coutts Armour,

Mr. H. W. Bennett,

Mr. J. Brett,

Mr. René Bull,

Mr. C. Davenport,

Mr. E. L. Pattison,

be informed that another selection had been made.

An expression of thanks to Sir Charles Holroyd for his assistance concluded the proceedings.

Mr. H. J. Mackinder (in the Chair).

Sir Charles Holroyd

Dr. Heath.

Dr. Roberts.

Mr. C. P. Lucas (at the beginning).

Mr. E. E. Wilkinson (Acting Secretary).

The following candidates for appointment as artist in connection with the Princess of Wales' Fund appeared before the Sub-Committee :-

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Mr. R. Coutts Armour.

Mr. Bennett.

Mr. J. Brett.

Mr. W. Todd Brown.

Mr. René Bull.

Mr. C. Davenport.

Mr. Hugh Fisher.

Mr. B. Low.

Mr. E. L. Pattison.

Mr. T. Butler Stoney.

Prior to the candidates being interviewed, Mr. Lucas laid before the Sub- Committee a letter from Mr. A. E. Aspinall enclosing one from Mr. A. J. West, suggesting the appointment of local photographers in each Colony instead of making a special appointment; and also one from the Honourable Eustace Fiennes, M.P., to Mr. Winston Churchill in support of the candidature of Mr. Todd Brown.

Mr. Mackinder explained to the Sub-Committee that in his estimate some 1,800 slides would be required, with three originals for each slide; and that, working

MY DEAR Lucas,

No. 159.

MR. H. J. MACKINDER to MR. LUCAS.

[Answered by No. 161.]

Minster House,

St. James's Court, S. W., July 30, 1907. LET us assume as a first approximation that we can deal with the dominions beyond the seas in six courses, each of six lectures, and that on the average we shall have 50 slides to a lecture. Then we shall want 6 by 6 by 50, or 1,800, slides. Let us say that each slide is selected from three originals submitted. Then we shall want 5,400 originals, photographs, and sketches, and maps. If, on the average, our

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