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Question: Well if I can just come back on that, I mean I appreciate that the two places are different and have different histories but restricting our comments to the electoral arrangements and the electoral reforms which took place in Hong Kong, do you not think that the introduction of those reforms has led to us being in a less advantageous position than in Macau where people will continue because the electoral arrangements were not altered? And if I can also just say that in terms of any responsibility that you or the British Government felt that it had to Hong Kong, is the responsibility not best discharged by knowing how far one can go with our friends in China?
Governor: I think there is one quite important flaw in your argument, though I totally accept that it is a criticism which I have to answer today, have had to answer in the past and will have to answer in the future. The flaw is this: there is a sort of assumption that the alternative to disagreeing with China in 1992-93 about electoral arrangements, the alternative was a quiet life in Hong Kong. I don't think that is true for one moment. I think if we had been seen to put in place arrangements for our elections which are unfair - I don't want to go over old ground - that would have led to real political and social difficulties here in Hong Kong and I don't think that I would have liked to spend my four or five years as Governor fighting Hong Kong and fighting majority opinion in Hong Kong. But we will obviously have to disagree about that. In the meantime I wish Macau well just as I wish Hong Kong well.
Question (in Chinese): Is there still discrimination against the new immigrants regarding Hong Kong departments?
Presenter: The government departments definitely have no discrimination against new immigrants but are you talking about society as a whole?
Question: Yes, I am a new immigrant and I feel the discrimination. My son -- we work in the civil service and we are in the lower ranks and then we want to apply for education and yet they say that we have not been here for seven years and they don't give us subsidy for transport, etc.
Governor: There are some time limits for some assistance but I can assure you that there isn't discrimination against new immigrants. We want to make new immigrants welcome, we want to help you with the initial problems that you may confront and we want you to be able to play a full part in our economic and social life. I think you will recognise that when it comes, for example to getting public housing, it would not be fair if we simply allowed people to come into Hong Kong, having not been here for years, and jump up the waiting-list when some people have been waiting for four, five, even six years or more. So we do have to have some rules but I don't think they are unreasonable ones.
Question (in Chinese): Not true!