Ports.
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Enclosure in No. 3.
SCHEME FOR FOUR SUBMARINES.
Personnel required.
I.
2.
3.
4.
Shore base
+ (a)
1
4
4 ratings.
One submarine (two crews)
32 (6)
32
32
32
17
One small vessel
10 (c)
46
10
10
10
17
46
46
46
DEAR SIR JOSEPH,
Admiralty, S.W.,
7th May 1907. By Lord Tweedmouth's request I send you a statement showing approximately the cost of four submarine torpedo boats (together with their crew and the appliances immediately connected with them) of a class considered suitable for employment in the defence of New Zealand harbours. The pay of officers and men only is given, victualling and clothing being omitted.
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It is difficult to give anything more than a general statement of the cost involved, as New Zealand is not in the position of this country, which possesses numerous Naval establishments which are capable of carrying out without difficulty all the repairs that might be necessary.
I may explain, briefly, that the statement has been prepared on the assumption that as the submarine crews cannot live in their vessels, and their work is of a very exhausting nature, it is necessary to have spare crews for relief purposes. The number of these spare crews would vary according to the total number of submarine boats kept in one port, and it has been assumed that the boats will be kept at separate ports.
A small vessel is required to provide living quarters and to attend the submarine when under weigh, and for towage, if the submarine proceeds for any distance. Probably a large tug would meet the case.
The spare crew could be used partly to man this vessel, certain additional ratings being allowed for care and up-keep of the tug and submarine.
Some arrangement would also be necessary for docking, hauling up, supply of electricity, supply and care of petrol on shore and means of easily supplying the same to the submarine, and probably a small shore depôt will be found necessary with a care and maintenance party.
As regards training the first crews, it may be anticipated that including time from and to New Zealand about a year would be required, assuming that the crews were seamen at the start. It would probably be advisable that the boats which may ultimately be located in New Zealand waters should be available for the training of the men in this country.
Lord Tweedmouth hopes that this information will be sufficient for your immediate purpose. Should more precise data be required, he considers that there will be no difficulty in supplying the facts, provided that a decision is arrived at with regard to the actual requirements.
The Honourable
Sir Joseph G. Ward, K.C.M.G.-
Believe me, &c.
W. GRAHAM GREENE.
(Note.-Copy of above given to Mr. Deakin and Dr. Smartt.)
Add 10 per cent. for sick, on leave, &c. 20.
Grand total for 4 boats
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204.
(a) Shore BaseR.
(b) Two Crews,
2 Lieutenants.
2 Sub-Lieutenauts.
2 Petty Officers (Cox.).
1 Electrician.
1 E.R.A.
2 A.B.'s (S.T.).
1
4 Loading Seamen.
10 A.B.'s.
NON
32
2 E.R. A.'s.
2 Mechaniciaus.
2 Stoker P.Q.'s.
6 Stokers.
Initial cost of submarine torpedo boat, 50,0007. Total cost of 4 boats, 200,000Z.
10
(c) Tug.
1 Lieutenaut.
4 A.B.'s.
1 E.R.A.
2 Stoker Petty Officers. 2 Stokers.
On the basis of Naval rates of pay, the cost of pay and allowances, including submarine pay under Naval Regulations and Colonial allowance to ratings at 3s. a day, but excluding victualling, clothing, &c. and pensions, is estimated at 30,000l. per annum, approximately, as follows:-
For I
5701. for each shore base 5,6501. for each submarine 1,2801. for each small vessel
7,5001.
No. 4.
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£ - -2,280 22,000
5,120
For 4 = £30,000
DR. SMARTT to ADMIRALTY.
DEAR MR. GRAHAM GREENE,
Hotel Cecil, London, W.C.,
8th May 1907.
1 ENCLOSE the last draft of the proposed Naval Volunteer Bill, which I have received from Colonel Crewe, the Cape Minister of Defence. The Bill is practically the same as the copy already in your possession, save that it contains a clause-and I think a very desirable one-making the Naval Volunteers liable for service on land in case of emergency.
Before communicating with the Defence Departinent at Cape Town, I am anxious to be assured that my interpretation of the remarks of the First Lord of the Admiralty, to-day, is correct-so that there may be no possible
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