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May I pay to Messrs. Pellat and Burville, the two head men in Walker's Photo- graphic Department, 10s. 6d. a time up to a fee of £5 5s. in all for the two? This arrangement should give me a good grounding and condensed experience in develop ment and exposures, and, in addition to working in their place, as I have been all day to-day, would cover days out with me, as I am arranging for next Sunday with Pellat.

At the same time will you authorise my purchase of such films, plates, printing papers, chemicals, baths, &c., &c., as I am buying for current training apart from larger items of camera and outfit upon which we shall decide together later on?

Looking forward to seeing you on Saturday,

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MY DEAR LUCAS,

No. 177.

Yours, &c..

A. HUGH FISHER.

MR. H. J. MACKINDER to MR. C. P. LUCAS. [Answered by No. 181.]

Union Club, Trafalgar Square, S.W., September 6, 1907. WITH reference to my letter of this date, it will be necessary in writing to Newton's to propose an annual date for the making up of accounts and a period within which payment should be made. Probably it would save trouble if both account and payment were made in the first instance to me, leaving me to account to you, and to pay balance to the Crown Agents.

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MY DEAR LUCAS,

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No. 178.

Yours, &c.,

H. J. MACKINDER.

MR. H. J. MACKINDER to MR. C. P. LUCAS.

[Answered by No. 180.]

Union Club, Trafalgar Square, S. W., September 8, 1907. I MUST trouble you with another letter. We are just now taking the prime decisions, for which my executive authority hardly suffices.

I propose the following programme for Fisher as the result of my conversation with him yesterday. He will leave England mid-October, arrive Ceylon mid- November, work northward through Southern and Eastern India, leave India mid-January, 1908, go to Canada via Singapore and Hong Kong, arrive in Canada end February, work at winter and spring scenes and leave Canada end May for England. Then he will turn round and go the other way round the world, leave England and arrive in Canada mid-July, work at summer and fall scenes, leave Canada mid-October, work at Hong Kong and Singapore and Penang on the way, and arrive India mid-January, 1909, stay there to see break of monsoon on West Coast, and leave India in June, work at Aden, 'Malta, and Gibraltar on way, and arrive in England in August.

I don't see any other way of getting the different seasons studied both in Canada and India with such expedition. Moreover, twice round means that pro- portion can be kept and errors corrected. We can utilize the Royal Mail-Orient offer from Marseilles to Colombo, and from Aden to London.

By this arrangement we can publish Canada early in 1909 and India late in the same year.

We shall also have by the latter date material for Hong Kong, Singapore, Penang, Ceylon, Aden, Malta, and Gibraltar.

How we are to deal with the rest of the Empire might be considered next year when Fisher returns in June and we have experience to guide us.

Do you think that we should have a meeting of the Committee in October before Fisher leaves? Or is all this sufficiently covered by the decisions already

taken?

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Introductions will have to be thought of and also Customs facilities for Fisher's apparatus. Harm is often done to photographic material by the Customs visits.

Yours, &c.,

H. J. MACKINDER.

I'lease forgive so long a written letter. My Secretary is away. I go away myself for a week to-morrow morning.

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GENTLEMEN,

No. 179.

MR. C. P. LUCAS to MESSRS. NEWTON & CO. [Answered by No. 183.]

Downing Street, September 10, 1907. I HAVE been informed by Mr. Mackinder that you are prepared to make an arrangement with the Visual Instruction Committee of this office, on behalf of whom I am writing, for placing on sale in this country an edition of the book of lectures on the United Kingdom, with accompanying slides, which has been prepared for use in India.

2. Accordingly, on behalf of the Committee I have to offer, and to ask whether you are prepared to accept, the following terms :-

(a) Copies of the book of lectures to be supplied to you for sale and to be sold by you at 1s. each net. The sales, less 10 per cent. to be accounted for by you to Mr. Mackinder on behalf of the Committee. (b) The necessary slides accompanying the lectures to be manufactured by you at your own cost and to be sold by you either in complete sets of 380 slides at 40 guineas the set, including boxes for storage, or by single complete lectures, but not otherwise.

The slides of the separate lecture, including boxes, to be on sale at prices of £7 10s. Od., £6 10s. Od., £5 10s. Od., £3 10s. Od., £11 10s. Od., £3 10s. Od. and £5 10s. Od., respectively, or in the aggregate £43 10s. Od.; a royalty of £121 per cent. on the slides to be paid by you to Mr. Mackinder on behalf of the Committee.

(c) An annual account of sales to be rendered to Mr. Mackinder on behalf of the Committee, the first account to be given on the expiration of

a year from the 1st of October next and on each subsequent 1st of October.

(d) A copy of the book of lectures to be in due course marked and signed by you and handed to Mr. Mackinder showing in which of the slides the Committee own the copyright as admitted by you.

I shall be glad to know at your convenience whether you agree to the above.

Yours, &c.,

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No. 180.

MR. C. P. LUCAS to MR. H. J. MACKINDER. [Answered by No. 184.]

C. P. LUCAS.

MY DEAR MACKINDER,

Downing Street, September 10, 1907. WITH reference to your letter of the 6th of September,* I return Mr. Fisher's letter and am sure that the Committee would agree to the payment of his expenses up to £10 as you propose. I will authorise the Crown Agents to pay if you will have a bill or bills sent in to me. Before answering your letter of the 8th,† I want to talk it over with Sir Cecil Smith. As far as I can judge the arrangement is a good one, but you must arrange for a visit to Weihaiwei, Borneo, and (over against Aden) to Somaliland. Before Mr. Fisher goes I will see to introductions and Customs facilities for him. I hardly think that a Committee meeting is necessary at present, but will write again.

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Yours, &c.,

C. P. LUCAS.

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