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Mr. Kwok mentioned these points several times in the

course of our conversation but he did not speak with any

certainty about them or make them sound at all convincing. He

also attempted to argue the legal question of the effect of the

Convention and what he described as the unilateral action of

His Majesty's Government in terminating, in 1899, the exercise

of jurisdiction by Chinese officials in Kowloon City.

I did not enter into a discussion with him on these

points, but told him simply that the facts of the matter were

as set out in the Government communique of September 15th; that

this communique had been published in consequence of what

appeared to be wholly irresponsible pronouncements by the Chinese

press; that if it really was the case that the Chinese Government

wished to raise the question of making an alteration in the

present existing status of Kowloon City they would doubtless

now decide how to make representations in the matter.

Mr. Kwok said that he had hoped to be able to settle

the matter amicably with me. I said that there was really

nothing to settle; I was certainly not going to discuss with

him what he apparently wanted to discuss, namely the question

how far and in what way Chinese civil administration might be

set up in Kowloon City; the question whether there should be

such any change was one which I presumed the Chinese Government

would take up, if they so decided, in the proper manner. Mr.

Kwok said that he was sending a copy of the notification of

September 15th to his Government and seeking instructions in

the matter. He would also send to me a notification regarding

the instructions which he and the Magistrate of Po On had

already received.

In conclusion I told Mr. Kwok that if any sort of offi-

cial communication on the subject had reached me I should

naturally not have replied to it by the issue of a communique

to the press. I made it clear again that the Hong Kong Govern-

ment notification of September 15th had been issued to correct

misconceptions which might well arise in consequence of what

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