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CHAIRMAN (in English):-It is the statement of the Chairman of that Select Committee and, where those parts were endorsed by the Council, they represent the formal policy of the Council. That's a firm and clear opinion from the chair. Now, if you do not agree with that opinion, you have recourse under Standing Order 19. Sorry, Mr. Hu, may I suggest that the statement by the Chairman of the Select Committee cannot be made the pretext of debate. Will you please resume your seat?
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MR. HU (in English):- I am not debating, Mr. Chairman, simply asking you if it is the statement of the Council, then do you agree with me or not that Mr. BERNACCHI has the right to dissociate. As for myself, I can neither deny nor confirm because I was not in the Select Committee.
CHAIRMAN (in English):-Please resume your seat, Mr. Hu. Under Standing Orders, when the Chairman stands up, Members sit down. I have already told you what the present position is.
You have asked me to clarify, and I have clarified the position for you. Standing Orders are just like the rules of any game. You cannot make this the subject of a debate. Now Mrs. ELLIOTT wants to have a point clarified. If that is in the public interest, I would be happy to have that point clarified by the Chairman of the Select Committee.
MRS. E. ELLIOTT (in English):-Mr. Chairman, I believe it is in the public interest. The Chairman of the Food Hygiene Select Committee said that the purpose of the Committee policy is to protect public health and prevent nuisances. Would he clarify whether this same policy applies to caterers in domestic premises who hide under the name of 'clubs' because I don't see the Committee doing anything about that.
CHAIRMAN (in English):-Mr. SIN, is that within the purview of your statement? If so, and if it is your wish to clarify that point, by all means. If it is not within the purview of your statement, then the point does not arise.
MR. SIN (in English): -Well, it does not really arise from my statement, Mr. Chairman. I merely stated what is and was the Council's policy.
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(Dr. Denny M. H. HUANG left the meeting at this point.)
MR. HENRY H. L. Hu (in English): —I want a clarification from you.
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CHAIRMAN (in English): -I am sorry. Your point has been clarified.
MR. HU (in English):-You have not, Mr. Chairman, with great respect. First, would you clarify if your position is a referee in a football game or not?
We are not paying you. You are not the referee in my view. This should be clarified. Secondly, Mr. Chairman, you still have not answered my question. Is this the policy of the Council or is this the policy of the Select Committee?
CHAIRMAN (in English):-I said earlier in answer to your second question that, in so far as the policy has been endorsed by the Standing Committee all these years, to that extent that policy is the Council's. Now I think this matter has been sufficiently discussed.
ADJOURNMENT - - 5.00 P.M.
CHAIRMAN (in English):—I will now adjourn Council until Tuesday, 24th September 1974 at 4.00 p.m. The Council stands so adjourned.
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