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Has this 12,095 old forms anything to do with that?

I think Mr. Forrest can answer that, sir.

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Mr. Forrest: I think the principal exception to the old forms was

this. Many persons applied for permits before the 14th December,

intending to go to the country sometime after the date which was

originally fixed as coming into force by the Ordinance. When the

date was postponed these persons took their journey to the country

knowing that no permit would be required until after 15th January,

and intending to be back in Hong Kong by the 14th January. They

came back from the country and then obtained their permits, so

that many of the old type permits were issued against very old

applications.

The permits obtained before 15th January would not bear any

relation to the amount of preliminary spade work you had done?

Yes. All the forms might have been ready but not issued until then.

Mr. Chen I will get the figures from 15th January, I was unable

to give you an answer with reference to the old forms because I

did not join the department till January.

Mr Kobza: Mr. Chen, do the figures just given refer only to the

general agency applications or do they include all the agencies,

shipping companies, etc.?

Mr. Chen

Everything.

Arising out of the last hearing: you will recollect I was

questioned by Mr. Forrest regarding the question of my enemies,

and handed in to the Commission a list which I regarded as

confidential. Apparently one of the Chinese newspapers has taken

it upon itself to say that in my statement to the Commission I

mentioned the names of twelve enemies. In fact I think there were

only eight names on the list. Then it was also stated that it

was I who reported the Dun case to Mr. Forrest. As a matter of

fact it was I who investigated the case, on his orders.

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