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Any orders to be given to the stevedores themselves would naturally
be given in Chinese?
Well, the orders were communicated to the No.1 in English.
Yes, but if I send one of my Chinese officers to give orders on my
behalf to Chinese stevedores or other persons
know they were stevedores
remember I did not
they would naturally be conveyed by
Chinese to Chinese in Chinese?
Yes.
You would not think my officer would have used the phrase "throw
them overboard".
Oh dear no.
Apart from that phrase "chuck them overboard" have you anyother
reason to think that my action was that of a mentally unbalanced
person?
Yes I did. It seemed to me that you were in a terrific rage over some matter or other. That is the impression I got and it made your men
We did not know what happen- and everybody around you rather nervous.
ed inside. We knew something had happened, but I am interested in the good order on the wharves and on the ships and wherever possible that something had upset you very and that is the impression I gut badly indeed and that you were a sick man ; I knew that you were
overworked.
Mr. Forrest: I have been racking my brains for the past few minutes to
The evidence of an officer of my find out any impartial witness. department there were several such on board who spoke to me before and after that incident who could justify what kind of mind I was in their evidence would not be so good, but if we might call Mr. Clague of the American President Lines who I remember was present?
Major Manners: I cannot recollect speaking to Mr. Clague. I believe
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Mr. Clague was inside and Mr. Wilson was on the promenade deck and
Bo was Captain Thomas.
Mr. Clague was present at the examination of passengers both immed-
you would admit that his iately before and after this incident
evidence as to the mood I was in would be in place?
Yes.
And if Mr. Clague found that I was in a pleasant mood before and after the incident, you would be prepared to admit that your