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I have asked Hong Kong and Indian Ocean Department
and Research Department if they know when the ferry
service was suspended. Neither can recall. I assume
that it was probably in 1949; it might be worth asking
Hong Kong. There are still, so far as I know, ferries
between Macao and Canton; these were certainly operating
until about two years ago and probably continue to
operate now.
3.
I submit a draft. HKIOD concur.
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29th June, 1972.
The Hon. The Colonial Secretary,
Colonial Secretariat,
Lower Albert Road,
Hong Kong.
Dear Sir,
Visit to China, 17-26 June 1972.
"
I have pleasure in enclosing for your information two copies of the
cover sheet and items 1, 2, 5, 6 and 7 of my report on the above; I
handed you two copies of items 3) and 4 on 27th June.
2.
As I reported to you verbally yesterday the reaction of my Head Office
is to go ahead as quickly as possible with the cable project and at this
time the ready- for-service date we are aiming at is mid-1973; this of
course is subject to a more detailed analysis of costs, etc., and to the
satisfactory resolution of the many problems which will undoubtedly
present themselves.
3.
As I think we are agreed that the Lowu-Kowloon railway offers the only
practicable route, for a cable I shall be most grateful if we could be
given permission to carry out a preliminary survey of that route,
together with a connecting route between the railway and the north
portal of the cross-harbour tunnel. It is fully understood that if
Government can give us this permission there would be no implied
commitment at this time for the provision of the route and it is further
understood that if such a route is eventually made available some sort
of wayleave agreement, and possibly other formalities, would be
necessary.
4.
In anticipation of permission being granted for a preliminary survey my
Head Office are making arrangements for a suitable landline expert to
come to Hong Kong in about ten days time; hopefully he will be able to
have technical discussions with the Chinese Administration in Canton
during his visit.
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I shall keep you advised of all developments on our side and I would
welcome your earliest possible comments on the preliminary survey so
that arrangements for our landline expert may be finalised. Thank you
for your help.
Yours faithfully,
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1972.
1. Participants.
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Programe.
3.
"Notes on the Talks".
Comments on "Notes on the Talks".
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Note on traffic and related proposals discussed.
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PARTICIPANTS.
Item 1.
Cable & Wireless Ltd., Hong Kong Branch:-
B. Quart,
General Manager.
J. Berry, Manager, Overseas Services.
A. Trigaci, Commercial Manager.
Kwangtung Administration of Telecommunications:-
Su Shih-chieh, Deputy Director.
Chung Kun-liang, Deputy Director of the Administration
Office.
Chief of Section (Telecommunications).
She Chuong-li,
Chen Tsi-jung,
Chief of Section (Services).
Hsu Yiang-lin,
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Assistant to Chief (Services).
Assistant.
Halong Hsi-jung, Interpreter.
Chen Chun,
N.B.
Interpreter.
At formal dinners on 17th and 25th the host was Mr. Yang, Director of
Television Bureau for Kwangtung Province.
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PROGR-VSE.
Morning
Afternoon
Evening
Sat. 17.
Leave Kowloon 0926.
Arrive Kwangchow
Formal Dinner.
1445.
Sun. 18. Discussion.
Museum and
Cantonese Opera.
antiques.
Mon.
19. Discussion.
Discussion,
Free.
Tues. 20. Discussion.
Central Telegraph Cultural Park.
Office.
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Wed. 21. Bicycle factory.
Discussion.
Free.
Thurs.22.
People's Commune.
People's Commune.
Free.
Fri. 23.
Central Telegraph
Discussion.
Film show.
Office.
Trunk Switch-
boards.
Pagoda.
Sat.
24.
Acupuncture.
Shopping.
Kwangtung Folk
Group.
Antiques.
Sun.
25.
Zoo.
Discussion.
Formal Dinner.
Mon.
26.
Leave Kwangchow
0820.
Arrive Kowloon 1300.
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Informal discussions continued during the many visits and
while travelling.
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KWANGCHOW-HONG KONG ROUTE.
Item 5.
The following methods of increasing the capacity between Kwangchow and
Hong Kong were discussed.
1. A microwave link.
2.
A tropo scatter system.
3.
5.
A combination of cable and microwave systems, the microwave system being
at the Hong Kong end.
A submarine coaxial system.
A coaxial system overland.
6. An extension of the Kwangchow-Shumchun carrier system with onward
radio link to Hong Kong.
All systems involving a radio link were pressed on our part but although
courteously discussed by the Administration they would not accept a
radio link in the chain. They would consider only a cable link with
perhaps a tropo or microwave system operating in parallel at a later
date.
The Administration found it difficult to see that the domestic system of
trunks could not be extended because of franchise and the fact that they
involved microwave links in any case.
The question of relative investment in radio and cable systems seemed
quite unimportant to the Administration.
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The following points were raised during discussions:- (A) Abolition of
the 4-figure group code rate and
the adoption of an accounting rate of GFC. 0.27 for both foreign
languages and 4-figure group code.
(B) Establishment of a Pix service between Kwangchow
and Hong Kong at a rate of GFCS. 22.50 for the first 150 SOCMS and 11.25
for each additional 100 SQCMS.
(C) Expansion of leased circuits to Kwangchow and
via Kwangchow to Shanghai and Peking - SITA, AFP, Reuters, AP and UPI
are interested in leased circuit facilities with China.
(D) Adoption of F.31 format in both directions. (E) Hong Kong/Kwangchow
telephone service to be
extended to 24-hour operation during the Kwangchow Fairs.
(F) Establishment of llong Kong/Kwangchow Telex
service during the Kwangchow Fairs.
Mr. Chen Tai-jung, Chief of Section (Services) offered the following
comments:-
(A) China is a huge country with thousands of
telegraph offices and it would be most difficult to depart from the
existing practice of charging on the basis of half-rate for Chinese
4-figure groups. (Collection rates: Foreign words 32 Chinese cents
4-figure groups 16 equivalent to HK$0.60 and 0.40.)
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(c) Under consideration.
(D) As for (A) above, all telegraph offices use the
same format, which is identical to the F12 format, and a change in
format would involve a considerable amount of work.
(E) will be taken into consideration in due course
although tha existing VHF system may preclude any extension beyond
midnight (Kwangchow Time). (F) Telex service will be established as soon
as a
cable is available between Kwangchow and Hong Kong.
Stemming from our offer of direct telephone circuits with countries with
which we have direct cable and satellite connections on a rented circuit
basis, Mr. Chen enquired about our leased circuit charges. A copy of our
leased circuit booklet was handed to him and the basic concept of leased
circuit charges was explained in detail.
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3 copies of our Tariff booklet were also handed to him and ve drew his
attention that numerous changes, in respect of all services, have taken
place since the booklet was printed in July 1970. We promised Mr. Cheng
that copies of our new Tariff booklet would be forwarded to him în
August or September 1972.
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EXISTING TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES WITHIN CHINA.
Items marked with a asterisk were personally seen; other items were
learned verbally.)
Approximately 6 yuan
yuan = £1.
1. General.
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Trunk distribution is by carrier systems, both under- ground and
overhead, with "some microwave".
Much overhead seen west and south-east of Kuangchow. Soundly constructed
and maintained. Carrier system 4 kHz channels, 12 per group, 5 groups
per supergroup. Underground cable of Chinese manufacture stated to be 1