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205 Memorandum of an interview between Mr. Chang Hing Chi, ex-V
THEGE 26 UFC -roy of Kwangtung, and H. E. Sir F. D. Lugard, Governor of Hongkong at Government House 11th. November, 1911.
The ex-Viceroy of the Kwangtung province took refuge at the British Consulate on the night of November 8th. and by arrangement of the Consul-General he left Canton at 8 a.m. on H. M. S. "Handy" for Hongkong on the 9th. Captain Taylor A.D.C. called on him on the "Handy" shortly after his arrival. He came ashore in the evening and took up his residence in a house placed at his disposal by the Manager of the Hongkong and Shan- -ghai Bank, declining an invitation to dinner at Government House on the grounds of extreme fatigue.
Next day, the 10th. instant he lunched at Govern- -ment House. Hon. Ir. Brewin, C.M.G., Colonial Secretary, Hon. Dr. Ho Kai, C.M.G., and Mr. Harris, Commissioner of Imperial Maritime Customs being present. After lunch the ex-Viceroy asked for a private interview with the Governor saying he would like to place before him the causes which had led him to leave Canton, and the position of affairs there. At this interview Mr. Harris who acted as interpreter, and Mr. Wei Hen's son were the only other persons present.
He began by saying that if a Government was bad it was justifiable for a people to change it,, and he thought that the present revolution was justified up to the bime, 30th. October, when the Throne issued an Edict admitting its fault, and promising reform and a Constitution. After that Edict the movement was no longer justified, and the reformers should have Given their assistance to the Throne to work out a Constitution, which is not the work of a day. By continuing the revolution the leaders of the movement were plunging the country into chaos. Constitutional governments may be said to be of two kinds, one like Great Britain where the King did not actually govern; the other like Germany where the Kaiser actively interfered in the Government. The Edict of the Throne had accepted the British form,
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