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By Mr. Chatham:

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Q. Do you often go to the office?

A. If it is our men who are getting paid I do.

Q. Are the captains present when the men are being paid?

A. Sometimes they are present and sometimes they are not. The captains are present.

Q. Always?

A. If the money is handed over properly they do not need to be there. If the money is handed over to the chief clerk they do not need to be there.

By Mr. Sercombe Smith:

Q. You say if the money is handed over by the captain to the chief clerk there is no need for the captain to remain?

A. They could leave when they hand it over. It depends upon themselves whether they remain or not.

Cross examined by Mr. Guterres:

Q. If you do not know whether the captain of the Cranley, how can you say whether the captain was there or not?

A. I do not know the captain.

Q. That is the question; if you do not know him how can you say whether the captain was there or not?

A. The people who were getting paid could have said.

His Excellency: The question is how did he know the captain was not there. Can't he answer that properly?

A. People say the captain had left.

His Excellency: And he had been there and gone?

A. Yes.

His Excellency (to Mr. Guterres): Do you wish to add anything to your written reply?

Mr. Guterres: That is the only statement I can make (handing in a document).

His Excellency: What is this? You wish to put this in? A lot of letters and what I sent.

Mr. Guterres: Yes.

His Excellency: Why don't you call these gentlemen?

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