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Examined by Mr. Guterres:

Q. Have you ever seen any irregularity when I paid crews off?

A. No.

Q. Your dock is pretty close to mine?

A. Opposite.

Q. You never heard of any Chinese making any complaint over their pay?

A. Never.

Q. Or anything like that?

A. No.

Q. You might have seen many instances when I paid one man and the other men tried to get money from him?

A. Yes.

Q. I have seen that often; very many times. And you always saw the captains bring their own money and change and everything?

A. Yes.

Q. Your desk being so close to me, you could have seen everything that passed between me and the men when I paid them off?

A. Yes.

Cross-examined by Mr. Sercombe Smith:

Q. How is your desk?

A. Opposite.

Q. How far opposite?

A. Seven or eight feet.

Q. How do you sit?

A. Side on.

Witness explains position of desks with the aid of books.

Q. What are you there for?

A. It is my business as superintendent to be there.

Q. It is not part of your business to see to the paying off?

A. No.

Q. You may often be present when he is paying them?

A. Yes, I may be there an hour or absent two hours.

Q. You are so accustomed to people being paid off that you pay no...

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